East Region Playoff Discussion

Started by pg04, November 10, 2006, 11:00:19 PM

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pg04

Oh come on.  2-8 in the NJAC is like 6-4 in the NEFC. 

clandfan

Quote from: david1959 on November 21, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
Buffalo State, William Patterson, Brockport State, Morrisville State and Western CT with a combined record of 12-38 doesn't make thier defense formidable.

Giving up 35 to a good Endicott team is not a bad thing but several NEFC teams like Maine Maritime, Curry, WNEC, Salve Regina and Framingham State are all teams that could score on Cortland.

They earned the home field and as they took advantage of it as they should have.

However, just thought that the referees were inconsistant whicj was dissapointing.






Which is it....score on Cortland or beat Cortland?  you said 4 or 5 NEFC teams would have won that game.  now you say would have scored on Cortland....little difference there.  YOu were better than I would have given you credit for but...at best, YOu would have finished 6th in our league and that is a generous estimate.

RedDragonFan

42 zip Cortland beat Curry in the 2nd round of the playoffs in 2008 as I recall. Have they improved since then? Don't recall even seeing them in the brackets...just saying. Endicott was the NEFC champs no? Why would anyone care about the teams you mentioned? There seasons ended before Endicotts.

JT

Quote from: david1959 on November 21, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
Buffalo State, William Patterson, Brockport State, Morrisville State and Western CT with a combined record of 12-38 doesn't make thier defense formidable.

Giving up 35 to a good Endicott team is not a bad thing but several NEFC teams like Maine Maritime, Curry, WNEC, Salve Regina and Framingham State are all teams that could score on Cortland.

They earned the home field and as they took advantage of it as they should have.

However, just thought that the referees were inconsistant whicj was dissapointing.

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Quote from: david1959 on November 21, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
However, just thought that the referees were inconsistant whicj was dissapointing.


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phil

Quote from: david1959 on November 21, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
Buffalo State, William Patterson, Brockport State, Morrisville State and Western CT with a combined record of 12-38 doesn't make thier defense formidable.

Do some math Einstein – the NJAC is a ten team conference and three of the teams went a combined 27-3 during the regular season and were nationally ranked. In what scenario would you see the bottom teams in this conference with a winning record? And lest you forget, prior to joining the NJAC, WestConn and Brockport were NCAA playoff teams.

The way I see it Dave, Maine Maritime, Curry, WNEC, Salve Regina and Framingham State would look an awful lot like Morrisville and WestConn if they played an NJAC schedule. And I'll give Endicott the benefit of the doubt and say they would have given TCNJ a battle for fourth place – at best.

JT

Quote from: phil on November 21, 2010, 06:36:11 PM
Quote from: david1959 on November 21, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
Buffalo State, William Patterson, Brockport State, Morrisville State and Western CT with a combined record of 12-38 doesn't make thier defense formidable.

Do some math Einstein – the NJAC is a ten team conference and three of the teams went a combined 27-3 during the regular season and were nationally ranked. In what scenario would you see the bottom teams in this conference with a winning record? And lest you forget, prior to joining the NJAC, WestConn and Brockport were NCAA playoff teams.

The way I see it Dave, Maine Maritime, Curry, WNEC, Salve Regina and Framingham State would look an awful lot like Morrisville and WestConn if they played an NJAC schedule. And I'll give Endicott the benefit of the doubt and say they would have given TCNJ a battle for fourth place – at best.

Salve Regina does have a kick butt campus right on the water.  Very nice.  If you can't afford a Providence, RI mansion on the water... going to school at Salve is the next best thing.

phil

...been to Salve. It's D3's and the East Coast's version of Pepperdine!

JT

Quote from: phil on November 21, 2010, 06:55:51 PM
...been to Salve. It's D3's and the East Coast's version of Pepperdine!

If I had a brain, I would have figured out a way to go to Arizona, or Florida State, or Clemson, etc.  Hindsight is truly 20-20. Nothing against the women of South Jersey and Philadelphia, but we're talking major and minor leagues. 

DanPadavona

What is it with the NEFC?  DP remembers 2 years ago some Plymouth State fan claiming that Cortland was "lucky" to beat them, even though the score was 31-14.  Same poster swore we had no chance against Curry, which we then beat 42-0.  

Just some quick factoids for the delirious:

The same SUNY Maritime which lost 60-0 to Alfred, beat 4-3 NEFC "power" Mass Maritime this season
Another better than average NEFC team, 4-3 Westfield State, lost 34-0 to Montclair
The NEFC is now 2-13 all-time in NCAA Playoff Competition.  The NJAC is 23-14.  Yes, that means the NEFC would need to win 21 of its next 22 NCAA playoff games just to equal the NJAC's record.

There is no NEFC team capable of beating any of the top 5 teams in the NJAC in 2010.  Not one.  Framingham would rank somewhere between 6th and 9th in the NJAC.  So while I respect your right to compete as a Pool A selection, and I appreciate your enthusiasm, you are absolutely delirious if you think your NEFC conference champion could win any other conference in D3 other than the ECFC.  I know that sounds harsh, but it's blatantly obvious to every other fan in D3 outside the NEFC.
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AUPepBand

Quote from: phil on November 21, 2010, 06:55:51 PM
...been to Salve. It's D3's and the East Coast's version of Pepperdine!

Pep has frequented Newport, RI many times and actually has friends there but has never stepped foot on the Salve Regina campus, although he's visited the mansions out on Bellevue Ave. (Pep's friend resides in the original farmhouse on the corner...the farmland was sold off for the mansions). Next visit, Pep will check out the campus!

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Quote from: david1959 on November 21, 2010, 10:13:04 AM
Quote from: DanPadavona on November 20, 2010, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 20, 2010, 08:40:59 PM
Congrats goes to Cortland.  Cach Mac is putting one heck of a program together. 


I agree.  Have you seen some of the freshmen and sophomores on CState?  It's unreal.  This is not nearly our best team, the best is yet to come.

Was at the EC Cortland game. 4 or 5 of the NEFC teams could have won that game. At a neutral sight with neutral refs there would be a different out come. The overweight "U" seemed to always be in the way, and the older man "H" missed at least 3 big calls that he later apologized to the EC coaching staff for missing.

The daunting defense feasted on bottom feeders like 0-10 WConn., not impressed.

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Pat Coleman

Quote from: DanPadavona on November 21, 2010, 09:32:23 PM
What is it with the NEFC?  DP remembers 2 years ago some Plymouth State fan claiming that Cortland was "lucky" to beat them, even though the score was 31-14.  Same poster swore we had no chance against Curry, which we then beat 42-0.  

Just some quick factoids for the delirious:

The same SUNY Maritime which lost 60-0 to Alfred, beat 4-3 NEFC "power" Mass Maritime this season
Another better than average NEFC team, 4-3 Westfield State, lost 34-0 to Montclair
The NEFC is now 2-13 all-time in NCAA Playoff Competition.  The NJAC is 23-14.  Yes, that means the NEFC would need to win 21 of its next 22 NCAA playoff games just to equal the NJAC's record.

There is no NEFC team capable of beating any of the top 5 teams in the NJAC in 2010.  Not one.  Framingham would rank somewhere between 6th and 9th in the NJAC.  So while I respect your right to compete as a Pool A selection, and I appreciate your enthusiasm, you are absolutely delirious if you think your NEFC conference champion could win any other conference in D3 other than the ECFC.  I know that sounds harsh, but it's blatantly obvious to every other fan in D3 outside the NEFC.

Oh, now, the UMAC and the NATHC probably belong on that list.
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Quote from: david1959 on November 21, 2010, 10:13:04 AM
The overweight "U" seemed to always be in the way, and the older man "H" missed at least 3 big calls that he later apologized to the EC coaching staff for missing.


I'm going to call BS on this one.  I was walking out of the stadium and stood long enough to watch the teams shake hands, including the EC coaches which joined the back of the line.  Never once saw the "H" grovel to the EC coaching staff for missing calls.  Not that one would ever do so.  You ever see a baseball umpire admit his strike zone was wrong?

Honestly I can't think of one controversial call in the entire game.  The Cortland stands never erupted at the officials, and neither did the Endicott fans. 

I was impressed with Endicott for competing and keeping the game exciting.  The QB was very good, the OL did a fine job protecting him.  And I thought there was some good speed on defense.  99 looked like a stud DL to me.  It's really a shame there are fans like David out there who are incapable of doing what the Endicott players and coaches did after 60 minutes - shake hands and say "good game" and "good luck in the next round."
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2010, 09:51:37 PM
Oh, now, the UMAC and the NATHC probably belong on that list.

I'll give you the NATHC.  But no way on the UMAC.  Greenville didn't embarrass itself against Augustana and Albion, and came within 10 points of Millikin.  I'd eat my hat if Framingham came within 21 points of Augustana.
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