East Region Playoff Discussion

[lewdogg11]

This got way out of hand.  The original context was that NEFC didn't deserve a Pool C bid.  We've concluded that the top tier of the NEFC would compete in the other conferences, but likely would be middle to mid-upper of the pack.  Unfortunately, they were rewarded an at-large bid.  Mid-tier teams in the other conferences would likely be upper tier in the NEFC but it would be competitive with the NEFC's best.  Case-closed.

If this year was a few years down the road with NEFC and MASCAC getting AQs, it's highly likely that 3 teams would have gotten in.  Salve would win the conference, Framingham would win the conference, and Bridgewater would still get a Pool C.  This is the fear of the future as we could see 3 AQ's(with ECFC included) and a potential 4-6 teams getting the nod under the right circumstances.  Everyone knows the ECFC is the bottom of the barrel, the NEFC is much further above it, and then a a decent amount higher are the other 4 conferences. 

No need to debate this.  It's all science.  I have already drafted a 573 page thesis to support this.  Go on with the chlorophyll.

[bman]

here is the solution....
1 super conference....

I'll call it the NEFCECFCMASCACLibertyMACNJACEmpire8 League

One AQ, and 2 pool Cs...let the battle begin

Note no NESCAC...sorry guys

[ExTartanPlayer]

This got way out of hand.  The original context was that NEFC didn't deserve a Pool C bid.  We've concluded that the top tier of the NEFC would compete in the other conferences, but likely would be middle to mid-upper of the pack.  Unfortunately, they were rewarded an at-large bid.  Mid-tier teams in the other conferences would likely be upper tier in the NEFC but it would be competitive with the NEFC's best.  Case-closed.

If this year was a few years down the road with NEFC and MASCAC getting AQs, it's highly likely that 3 teams would have gotten in.  Salve would win the conference, Framingham would win the conference, and Bridgewater would still get a Pool C.  This is the fear of the future as we could see 3 AQ's(with ECFC included) and a potential 4-6 teams getting the nod under the right circumstances.  Everyone knows the ECFC is the bottom of the barrel, the NEFC is much further above it, and then a a decent amount higher are the other 4 conferences. 

No need to debate this.  It's all science.  I have already drafted a 573 page thesis to support this.  Go on with the chlorophyll.

Best post yet in the thread.

This is change I can believe in.  Or something.  +K.

LewDogg for President.

[Yanks 99]

You win...

New pre-season East Region Conference Power Rankings for 2013 as follows:

1) NEFC
2) ECFC
3) MASCAC
4) NESCAC (why not?)
5) Liberty League
6) MAC
7) NJAC
8) Empire 8

What is it with some of you guys (not all, but this is the second time I've been confronted with this particular response of "Fine, the NEFC is the best!") that makes it so hard to see a "happy medium" viewpoint?  It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other.  I have never said once that the NEFC is better than these respective leagues, and my post includes a direct quote stating that the Empire 8 is stronger than the Liberty League.

Honestly, do we have to resort to the eight-year-old's attitude of "OK, you disagree?  Fine you win!  I'm going to take my ball and go home!" instead of finding that middle ground?

Dude...relax...it was said in jest.  Do you think I am writing this stuff in anger?  That my Thanksgiving is now ruined because someone thinks that Utica wouldn't run through the NEFC?

Do you really need me to validate your sentiment that the NEFC is better than most people think?  Seriously...is it required that we need to find a middle ground on this issue?  You have your opinion...I have mine...

[ExTartanPlayer]

Thanksgiving is only ruined if the turkey is dry or the sweet potatoes are burned.

[HSCTiger74]

Thanksgiving is only ruined if the turkey is dry or the sweet potatoes are burned.

Or someone insists on serving those gawdawful little pearl onions in cream sauce.

[Knightstalker]

Thanksgiving is only ruined if the turkey is dry or the sweet potatoes are burned.

Or someone insists on serving those gawdawful little pearl onions in cream sauce.

Then don't come here, I love those little onions in cream sauce.

[bman]

All

I have enjoyed this board immensely the last week or so...thank you

Have a happy Thanksgiving and safe travels...

[AUKaz00]

If this year was a few years down the road with NEFC and MASCAC getting AQs, it's highly likely that 3 teams would have gotten in.  Salve would win the conference, Framingham would win the conference, and Bridgewater would still get a Pool C.

Not to continue quibbling since I too would dislike seeing such a scenario, but when the MASCAC gets their AQ won't that take away a Pool C slot?  And if BSU was the last team in, then they would actually be left out with one less at-large invite.  Which will make a Pool C from one of those 3 conferences even worse if it comes to pass (and the quality of play hasn't improved).

[wesleydad]

happy thanksgiving to all my east region friends.  big games this weekend for the east.  hobart/wittenberg and cortland/wesley give the east a chance to prove they can compete with the other regions.  the salisbury/widener game is for the east championship so to speak, well unless hobart and 1 of the other 3 make it to the stagg then that would be the east championship.

[dlippiel]

Dlip would like to wish all the east region posters and their families a wonderful, safe, and healthy Thanksgiving! Dlip is very thankful for many things, health, family, friends, and also discussing and learning more about D3 football with all of you.

[fulbakdad]

I've been quietly sitting back enjoying someone else getting beat up by saying any teams from the NEFC are good.


Happy Thanksgiving from New Hampshire!

[pg04]

Dlip would like to wish all the east region posters and their families a wonderful, safe, and healthy Thanksgiving! Dlip is very thankful for many things, health, family, friends, and also discussing and learning more about D3 football with all of you.

I would say this again, but dlip says it best. Happy Thanksgiving all!

Special thanks goes to those who devote a good part of their lives to covering D3 (Pat, Keith, etc) and creating these sites when they have to have real day jobs to cover real-life expenses.

[pg04]

My guaranteed to be wrong picks:

Cortland 10
Wesley 38

Wittenberg 21
Hobart 31

Salisbury 28
Widener 31

(Originally I had picked Salisbury but like I said elsewhere, I have not been altogether impressed. I think Widener has the ability to score on Salisbury

[lewdogg11]

The ILB for Hobart #45...I love the way he plays, he's very intense, and he's all over the field.  However, I can NOT stand the way he handles himself.  I know you need to get excited to play with that kind of intensity, but he looks like a punk.  Jumping up and down when a guy gets hurt, getting in everyone on the other team's face when you make a play.  Go celebrate with your team and act like you've been there before dude.  But still play like a wild man.