East Region Playoff Discussion

[Senor RedTackle]

Believe what you will Frank. Saturday will be here soon enough...

I hope you're clients get more convincing arguments than this from you.

Could you please put forth an argument first, before you throw stones in your glass house, Tags?

I gave you my reasoning frank - you won't hold fisher under 30, and you won't score more than 30. You're two studs won't be all they're cracked up to be vs. this Fisher defense, and it's at Growney.

... All I've heard from you is "oh ya, well, well I've seen it happen before!!!"

Night Frank, all the best.

Wow.  Thank you for showing us the difference between a fact (which was lacking in your entire statement) and opinion (which is not the basis of an argument).  Sleep well.

Here's a fact frank:

Fisher averages 41 points a game.

Union averages 30 points a game.

Neither defense gives up that many, so lets take defenses out of the conversation and say each offense puts up what they normally put up.

Here's another fact - you're running back averages 2.2 TD's a game, not 5.

You're an 11 point underdog in someon else's house. Sleep well.

The 5 was referring to one game.  Sorry if that was misconstrued.  He still is one of the NCAA's leading scorers, esp. when receiving TDs are thrown into the mix.  And suddenly you want to imagine the defenses don't factor in?  Ummm...maybe that's what a Fisher fan would like to do, but when you tout offenses' points per game, it's directly attributable to the defenses' games.  Your post makes no sense.

the defense give up 12 a game frank. And how many receiving td's would you like me to hypothetically add, b/c he has had 1 (one) all year.

good night Tags

[Tags]

"He still is one of the NCAA's leading scorers, esp. when receiving TDs are thrown into the mix"

Pointing out that he only had a single td reception didn't sit well I see.

[Senor RedTackle]

well I do have to say that I graduated HS from Amsterdam

kick ass mall there (and I don't mean the Price Chopper plaza)....eeeesh!!!

Although, that burger and ice cream stand on Rt.30 heading toward Perth looks pretty good. What's the name of that joint again??

['gro]

grew up in sch'dy... end up in amsterdam... went to SJF? that's a strange path.

[superman57]

ummm do you mean Polar Freeze... the best is out on 67 heading to saratoga a place called Cappies... no grew up in Amsterdam ended up in Niskayuna went to SJF.. I still live with the rents

[Jonny Utah]

Seriously folks.  Can we stop talking about numbers that dont mean anytyhing and start giving opinions of what weve seen or not seen or at least can predict?  For what its worth, heres my two cents on the game from what Ive seen from Union and SJF over the last 4 years...

1) SJF has consistantly put up points on Ithaca over the last 4 years, although about 6 of those 16 quarters Ithaca made adjustments and shut them down.

2) Union did whatever they wanted to against Ithacas defense last year.  Their QB had one or two real bad, unexplainable throws, but besides that they did what they wanted 3X as much as SJF ever did.

3) SJF is probably the biggest team Union will face this year.

4) A much smaller RPI team beat up on a much bigger SJF team last year.

5) Unions rb, (#1) finds the holes and takes off better than any back SJF had faced the last 4 years.

6) Union looks small in their pads

7) SJF doesnt have a game-breaking WR like they had last year, Union might (Angliettas health?)

8) Unions special teams didnt impress me last year.  Ithaca dominated them in that category.  SJF has great special teams and that might come into play

9) Union is a well coached, well balanced team.  If #1 cant find holes up the middle or off tackle, he will get the ball in other ways (screens, draws, options)

[pg04]

Fan of D3, rather than saying what do you want to know, provide some insight into both teams

[Tags]

For the love of God Frank it's all in good fun - loosen up a little.

I know damn well they're both good teams. Fisher is just better

Superman- Have a few fraternity brothers from Amsterdam. Great football school.

And last but not least, I'd like to thank all of you who really care about the post-punchout postings. What is a guy to do, I enjoy the banter.

[superman57]

ya definatly is a great football school although they finally lost there sectional streak this year

[The Truth 00]

frank, so let me write this straight:

fact: you've called all marotti's games
fiction: your opinion of marotti never having played 2 bad games in a row

[Frank Rossi]

Seriously folks.  Can we stop talking about numbers that dont mean anytyhing and start giving opinions of what weve seen or not seen or at least can predict?  For what its worth, heres my two cents on the game from what Ive seen from Union and SJF over the last 4 years...

1) SJF has consistantly put up points on Ithaca over the last 4 years, although about 6 of those 16 quarters Ithaca made adjustments and shut them down.

2) Union did whatever they wanted to against Ithacas defense last year.  Their QB had one or two real bad, unexplainable throws, but besides that they did what they wanted 3X as much as SJF ever did.

3) SJF is probably the biggest team Union will face this year.

4) A much smaller RPI team beat up on a much bigger SJF team last year.

5) Unions rb, (#1) finds the holes and takes off better than any back SJF had faced the last 4 years.

6) Union looks small in their pads

7) SJF doesnt have a game-breaking WR like they had last year, Union might (Angliettas health?)

8) Unions special teams didnt impress me last year.  Ithaca dominated them in that category.  SJF has great special teams and that might come into play

9) Union is a well coached, well balanced team.  If #1 cant find holes up the middle or off tackle, he will get the ball in other ways (screens, draws, options)

I can't argue with any of those JU.  Well done.

[pg04]

As always, an Ithaca Alum sets us free...

Whatever the hell that means...

[Frank Rossi]

frank, so let me write this straight:

fact: you've called all marotti's games
fiction: your opinion of marotti never having played 2 bad games in a row

Absolutely not a fiction.  I'd have hammered him on air if he had.  I call a spade a spade on the air, which often gets me in trouble with the home crowd.  I'm no Don Cherry, but I don't run from such comments.  Marotti has had some gawd-awful days that have and have not led to losses.  However, he seems to pull his head out of his rear end by the next game.  That's the value in Marotti -- he wants to win, but isn't self-destructive in that way.

[Tags]

Good post JU.

I'll give #1 his 2 TD's & 100 yds. Doesn't bother me. Throw in a TD & 100 yds. from their WR.

Still won't stop Fisher's offense, and Fisher's defense is good enough to limit those two from scoring more than 3 times in a game.

[Jonny Utah]

I should have added that SJF has two running backs that could be considered gamebreakers.  Running games can be shut down though....