East Region Playoff Discussion

[BAK4LVC]

I can't see anyone from the East outside of maybe the Albright/Lebanon Valley winner being able to get a Pool C berth.  Even that winner could get squeezed depending how the Centennial plays out, since Dickinson could end up being a consideration.

[pg04]

I have to ask...with Mount Union almost certainly on its way over to the East...who is going to grab the pool C's...or will we only have one Pool C like last year when they brought in Randolph-Macon (complete joke that they did this) and Mount Union?

It makes sense to me ... They brought in RM because they were possibly the worst team in the field and thus set them against the best team in the field.  Obviously they see the East as weak, why give them another Pool C? 

[Yanks 99]

I have to ask...with Mount Union almost certainly on its way over to the East...who is going to grab the pool C's...or will we only have one Pool C like last year when they brought in Randolph-Macon (complete joke that they did this) and Mount Union?

It makes sense to me ... They brought in RM because they were possibly the worst team in the field and thus set them against the best team in the field.  Obviously they see the East as weak, why give them another Pool C? 

Personally...if you are going to base making the playoffs based on your regional record only, then why turn around and bring two out of region teams to the region?  I think its bad form.

[pg04]

Did you miss the discussion we had on like 3 of the boards last week?  The brackets are not officially based on Geography.  They are named by the Number 1 seed (Like, the Mount Union Bracket)  -- But the brackets are also made so that they produce the least possible airplane flights, so they end up being geographically sensible. 

[Yanks 99]

Did you miss the discussion we had on like 3 of the boards last week?  The brackets are not officially based on Geography.  They are named by the Number 1 seed (Like, the Mount Union Bracket)  -- But the brackets are also made so that they produce the least possible airplane flights, so they end up being geographically sensible. 

I saw the discussion...but that doesn't mean I agree with it.  I just think that it's bad form.  If you keep sending over Mount Union to the East...how do we necessarily know that the East is the weakest bracket?  Afterall...hardly anyone ever beats MUC...so to simply say we should beat MUC to get to the Final 4 is kind of a stupid arguement.

[theoriginalupstate]

Did you miss the discussion we had on like 3 of the boards last week?  The brackets are not officially based on Geography.  They are named by the Number 1 seed (Like, the Mount Union Bracket)  -- But the brackets are also made so that they produce the least possible airplane flights, so they end up being geographically sensible. 

I saw the discussion...but that doesn't mean I agree with it.  I just think that it's bad form.  If you keep sending over Mount Union to the East...how do we necessarily know that the East is the weakest bracket?  Afterall...hardly anyone ever beats MUC...so to simply say we should beat MUC to get to the Final 4 is kind of a stupid arguement.

So do you have a problem with the NCAA B-Ball tournament then?

Because that's what the NCAA is doing with this tournament.

[HScoach]

While MUC is still very good, this isn't the offense juggernaught the East Region has seen the last couple years with Kmic at TB.  If there was ever a year the traditional east teams would be competitive and/or beat Mount, this would be it.   

If the east is a balanced and average as you guys make it out to be, you've missing a great opportunity to slay the King.

[pg04]

We've heard that before...

[Yanks 99]

Did you miss the discussion we had on like 3 of the boards last week?  The brackets are not officially based on Geography.  They are named by the Number 1 seed (Like, the Mount Union Bracket)  -- But the brackets are also made so that they produce the least possible airplane flights, so they end up being geographically sensible. 

I saw the discussion...but that doesn't mean I agree with it.  I just think that it's bad form.  If you keep sending over Mount Union to the East...how do we necessarily know that the East is the weakest bracket?  Afterall...hardly anyone ever beats MUC...so to simply say we should beat MUC to get to the Final 4 is kind of a stupid arguement.

So do you have a problem with the NCAA B-Ball tournament then?

Because that's what the NCAA is doing with this tournament.

Ummm...Division I hoops is a bit different then Division III football...

[Yanks 99]

While MUC is still very good, this isn't the offense juggernaught the East Region has seen the last couple years with Kmic at TB.  If there was ever a year the traditional east teams would be competitive and/or beat Mount, this would be it.   

If the east is a balanced and average as you guys make it out to be, you've missing a great opportunity to slay the King.

Yeah...judging by the fact that only one game was pretty much within 3 TD's...I am sure that MUC is worried.

[gordonmann]

For those who bought this year's kickoff, take a look at the federal data source I cited in the feature on financial resources.  You'll find some disparities that will probably surprise you, even among the top teams. 

[labart96]

Ok - here's a SWAG of the East, I mean MUC, bracket (and "seeds"):

8 Pool C (LVC) - going with Leb Val with a 9-1 record and only ~310 mile trip to Alliance, OH

vs.

1 MUC ODAC Champ - NCAA will follow same pattern, nuff said

5 NEFC Champ (Curry) - like the Colonels over the Maine Maritime.  That loss to Bridgewater earlier in the season is the Red Herring IMO

vs.

4 NJAC Champ (Kean) - I like Kean to beat MSU this weekend and host a first round game.   Kean will likely be "seeded lower" to eliminate the possibility of a re-match against DVC in Round 2 (DVC beat the Cougs 30-17 in Wk 2).  That said I could easily see Union or Alfred hosting Curry (Alfred maybe less likely given the mileage from Milton to Alfred is 440). 

Assuming both MUC and Kean win - Round 2 is only a ~415 mile trip from Union, NJ to Alliance on the I-80.

6 E8 Champ (Alfred) - I like the Saxons over Utica and they hold a head-to-head tie-breaker over SJFC (note - I don't know exact E8 rulebook, so this is a guess). 
vs.

3 LL Champ (Union) - I like the "Dutchies on the leff hand side" to prevail at home vs Susquatch and be "rewarded" for an undefeated league record with a home game.  Trip from Alfred to Shocktown is about 270 miles and would match up "rival conferences", "battle for Upstate NY", etc

7 Pool C (Dickinson) - This one is anyone's guess but I am going with Dickinson if they win out (and finish 9-1 and would be co-Champs of the CC, but) if JHU wins out, the Red Devils would lose a Pool A due to a head-to-head tiebreaker with JHU - once again note I am not a CC rulebook expert.  JHU has already played and lost to DVC and Carlisle, PA (Dickinson's home base) is a short 132 miles from Doylestown, PA.

vs.

2 DVC MAC Champ - The Aggies, clearly the best "eastern" team (from the most consistent/"best" conference this season) in the bracket, get a good shot to advance to the national quarterfinals and the winner of the Union (216 miles) vs. Alfred (292) game is not too far away.

[HScoach]

We've heard that before...

While MUC is still very good, this isn't the offense juggernaught the East Region has seen the last couple years with Kmic at TB.  If there was ever a year the traditional east teams would be competitive and/or beat Mount, this would be it.   

If the east is a balanced and average as you guys make it out to be, you've missing a great opportunity to slay the King.

Yeah...judging by the fact that only one game was pretty much within 3 TD's...I am sure that MUC is worried.

I'm not saying the Raiders aren't the favorite in the East by a large margin this year, just that this is as vulnerable as they've been in a while.  If the '06 Fisher team was facing this MUC team the outcome might have been different as a 26-14 point loss. 

[pg04]

We've heard that before...

While MUC is still very good, this isn't the offense juggernaught the East Region has seen the last couple years with Kmic at TB.  If there was ever a year the traditional east teams would be competitive and/or beat Mount, this would be it.   

If the east is a balanced and average as you guys make it out to be, you've missing a great opportunity to slay the King.

Yeah...judging by the fact that only one game was pretty much within 3 TD's...I am sure that MUC is worried.

I'm not saying the Raiders aren't the favorite in the East by a large margin this year, just that this is as vulnerable as they've been in a while.  If the '06 Fisher team was facing this MUC team the outcome might have been different as a 26-14 point loss. 

Maybe so, but most people don't want to hear that you are worse than you usually are when you've basically just had to show up at most of your games to win.  (Other than the abnormally close 28-21 game)

[maxpower]

East is down AND Mount is down? Wait.... maybe ALL of DIII is down this year?? Maybe all of FOOTBALL?!