East Region Playoff Discussion

[saxontad]

No Appollonia, NOOO!!

[fisheralum91]

Fabrizzio?

[saxontad]

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

[fisheralum91]

Its not personal Sonny,
Its business....


Back to business-IC looks like a different team than the one I saw against Fisher.
Bomber guys-what is the change....How are you going to combat Secky?

[Bombers798891]

Its not personal Sonny,
Its business....


Back to business-IC looks like a different team than the one I saw against Fisher.
Bomber guys-what is the change....How are you going to combat Secky?

Competition/Location. Period.

Look, Springfield cannot play on the grass here. They lost here in 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008 and now this season. Total points scored: 56. They're built to run on turf. Also, Ithaca's straight up loaded at DE and LB this season. (And they will be next season too.) Conti and White are physical corners. With those factors, it's not a surprise Springfield got shut down. They can't take advantage of the pass coverage weaknesses

As far as Utica goes, personally, I saw a team not ready to win a big game like that on the road. At home, you get the crowd going, things start to turn, but on the road, they're not there. They have a good QB, but there aren't a lot of explosive playmakers on that offense

Let's not kid ourselves, this is the same one-dimensional IC offense it's been all season. Against Utica, the backs ran 25 times for 73 yards and against Springfield they had 22 carries for 43. But Utica and Springfield weren't quite good enough offensively to take advantage of a struggling IC offense.

As for beating Secky, it's going to be tough. I think they have to hope to stop Dwyer and put Secky in obvious passing downs. Rochester forced Secky to throw 53 times, and Dwyer only had 47 yards on 12 carries. Secky's shown that he'll turn the ball over (11 INT's). In fact, Alfred is a turnover-prone team (19) compared to Ithaca (10)

Something I just noticed was that Thon has 9 TD's and Alfred's next two most-proficient receivers only have one each. I wonder is Secky gets too locked in on Thon when looking for a big play. Nothing wrong with having a go-to guy, but you can get too focused on him sometimes. 

Honestly though, and don't take this the wrong way, Alfred guys, this will be about how tough Alfred is. Look, they've struggled closing out seasons and against Ithaca in general (and yes, those two are related). The Saxons are coming off a horrid home loss to an inferior opponent. They, as a program, have got to say "We're ready to take that next step." And they have to do it. I normally hate to go all intangible on my analysis, but Alfred's got to, as the kids say, put on their big boy pants. They've been putting together 7, 8 and 9 win seasons for six years, but it seems like they've yet to put it all together. Beating Ithaca and Utica and then winning an NCAA game would go a long way towards doing it. I think they can beat Ithaca and they will beat Utica. But it's time to get it going, Saxons

[RedDragonFan]

Its not personal Sonny,
Its business....


Competition/Location. Period.

Look, Springfield cannot play on the grass here. They lost here in 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008 and now this season. Total points scored: 56. They're built to run on turf. Also, Ithaca's straight up loaded at DE and LB this season. (And they will be next season too.) Conti and White are physical corners. With those factors, it's not a surprise Springfield got shut down. They can't take advantage of the pass coverage weaknesses

Hyman Roth: What does that tell you?
Michael Corleone: It means they could win.

[Pat Coleman]

Latest regional rankings posted:
http://d3blogs.com/d3football/2010/11/03/ncaas-second-regional-rankings/

[labart96]

Latest regional rankings posted:
http://d3blogs.com/d3football/2010/11/03/ncaas-second-regional-rankings/

Thx Pat.  No real surprises there.

[Pat Coleman]

It's OK to let people follow links and let them see the rest of the site.

[labart96]

It's OK to let people follow links and let them see the rest of the site.

Duly noted

[Frank Rossi]

OK, SJF, you're getting screwed.  Using Primary Criteria (Secondary really not at play here):

W/L percentage is null
SoS is +SJF (0.009)
No head-to-head
Common opponents is +SJF (two bigger victories, one by like 30)
Regionally-Ranked Opponents is +ROW:  SJF loses to #9, beats #8; Rowan loses to #5, beats #4

To me, the SoS difference nullifies the RRO here (negligible differences in both directions).  For a Committee that won't pick 8-2 teams over 9-1 teams unless there are "direct links" between teams in the discussion, how aren't common opponents being considered as very important in this determination -- those are as close to direct links as you can get).

[boobyhasgameyo]

OK, SJF, you're getting screwed.  Using Primary Criteria (Secondary really not at play here):

W/L percentage is null
SoS is +SJF (0.009)
No head-to-head
Common opponents is +SJF (two bigger victories, one by like 30)
Regionally-Ranked Opponents is +ROW:  SJF loses to #9, beats #8; Rowan loses to #5, beats #4

To me, the SoS difference nullifies the RRO here (negligible differences in both directions).  For a Committee that won't pick 8-2 teams over 9-1 teams unless there are "direct links" between teams in the discussion, how aren't common opponents being considered as very important in this determination -- those are as close to direct links as you can get).

ehhhhh maybe if we are able to win on Saturday that will boost up our strength of schedule a little bit more while Rowan is playing a .500 team and a 1-7 team to round off their schedule....that should make their SoS go down. 

[Jonny Utah]

OK, SJF, you're getting screwed.  Using Primary Criteria (Secondary really not at play here):

W/L percentage is null
SoS is +SJF (0.009)
No head-to-head
Common opponents is +SJF (two bigger victories, one by like 30)
Regionally-Ranked Opponents is +ROW:  SJF loses to #9, beats #8; Rowan loses to #5, beats #4

To me, the SoS difference nullifies the RRO here (negligible differences in both directions).  For a Committee that won't pick 8-2 teams over 9-1 teams unless there are "direct links" between teams in the discussion, how aren't common opponents being considered as very important in this determination -- those are as close to direct links as you can get).

ehhhhh maybe if we are able to win on Saturday that will boost up our strength of schedule a little bit more while Rowan is playing a .500 team and a 1-7 team to round off their schedule....that should make their SoS go down. 

Hasn't the NCAA ignored their own criteria in the past though?

[JT]

It's OK to let people follow links and let them see the rest of the site.

Duly noted

Plus intralinking (also called deep linking) within a website is a bona fide Search Engine Optimization technique.  As a long as it is done legitimately.  So when you guys link to something cool on D3, it helps Pat just a little bit in the search engines.  Over time it adds up.  But only do it if you have real reason to do it.  

And if you link back to D3 from an outside forum or chat board, that is a backlink.  Very huge... great SEO link juice.

[Pat Coleman]

True.

And linking to ... thong of the day ... not so great for us but since it doesn't happen every day I'll live.