East Region Playoff Discussion

[union89]

Hedge....Del Val just happened to be the "next great East team" of the year.  It's nothing against them personally, it's more about the theory that the East gets screwed when Mount gets placed there.  I have heard/read this argument for the past few years, and it just gets old.

I have the utmost respect for Rowan, and if they were 10-0 I would fully expect them to be a #1.  Actually, if Del Val would have "held serve", we wouldn't have had 40 pages of diatribe regarding the East getting screwed.  If any East team that played in one of the "better conferences" had an undefeated record, there would be no argument.  That hasn't happened, hence Mount getting moved.

Now that you mention it, I wasn't hugged enough as a kid.  I am going to send my MOM a nasty email.  Thanks for reminding me about THAT (dayum you mom)!   

Maybe its your Mom that needs sympathies. 

No doubt JT....no doubt.  After further review, and having a reflective moment, I have to admit I am unsure why things like the NCAA D-III seedings would bring out such a response.  I need to to take up yoga, accupuncture, or some sort of "serenity now" program.   

Christmas is coming....save your money and get a 'Festivus' pole....maybe you can even wrestle your mom.

Hmmm.....I have always wanted one of those poles.  Now THAT is a religion where I believe I could find true enlightenment.    

Don't forget the awesomeness involved with the other "Festivus" activities:

- Airing of Grievances - Where you gather your family around, and tell them all the ways they have disappointed you over the past year.

- Feats of Strength - Where the head of the household selects one person at the Festivus celebration and challenges that person to a wrestling match.

Hence, my wrestling comment.

[Yanks 99]

Hedge....Del Val just happened to be the "next great East team" of the year.  It's nothing against them personally, it's more about the theory that the East gets screwed when Mount gets placed there.  I have heard/read this argument for the past few years, and it just gets old.

I have the utmost respect for Rowan, and if they were 10-0 I would fully expect them to be a #1.  Actually, if Del Val would have "held serve", we wouldn't have had 40 pages of diatribe regarding the East getting screwed.  If any East team that played in one of the "better conferences" had an undefeated record, there would be no argument.  That hasn't happened, hence Mount getting moved.

Now that you mention it, I wasn't hugged enough as a kid.  I am going to send my MOM a nasty email.  Thanks for reminding me about THAT (dayum you mom)!   

Maybe its your Mom that needs sympathies. 

No doubt JT....no doubt.  After further review, and having a reflective moment, I have to admit I am unsure why things like the NCAA D-III seedings would bring out such a response.  I need to to take up yoga, accupuncture, or some sort of "serenity now" program.   

Christmas is coming....save your money and get a 'Festivus' pole....maybe you can even wrestle your mom.

Hmmm.....I have always wanted one of those poles.  Now THAT is a religion where I believe I could find true enlightenment.    

Don't forget the awesomeness involved with the other "Festivus" activities:

- Airing of Grievances - Where you gather your family around, and tell them all the ways they have disappointed you over the past year.

- Feats of Strength - Where the head of the household selects one person at the Festivus celebration and challenges that person to a wrestling match.

Hence, my wrestling comment.

+k U89...I missed that.

I still remember spitting milk through my nose the first time Frank Costanza stated how he started Festivus: "Many Christmases ago, I went to buy a doll for my son. I reached for the last one they had, but so did another man. As I rained blows upon him, I realized there had to be another way."

Seriously...that last sentence still makes me laugh at loud to this day...that and the fact that he was getting a doll for his son, and that the doll was a girl...

[AUKaz00]

some teams get completely screwed out of playing for the national championship that should be in the tournament...

I know this conversation was so last week, but I thought to myself at the time that I'd take a look at the Week 11 Top 25 and see which ranked teams didn't make the tournament.

#17 Pacific Lutheran
#19 Hardin-Simmons
#22 Rowan
#25 Wabash

All of these teams certainly would have made for better competition in place of some of the weaker AQs, but if we consider where we were 12 years ago we essentially still have the "top" 16 teams playing for the national championship, but we also have a degree of equity for the undefeated teams below that threshold as well as other conference winners.  There certainly are scenarios where one of these 4 teams could win the tournament, but they would be rather unlikely.

[hazzben]

some teams get completely screwed out of playing for the national championship that should be in the tournament...

I know this conversation was so last week, but I thought to myself at the time that I'd take a look at the Week 11 Top 25 and see which ranked teams didn't make the tournament.

#17 Pacific Lutheran
#19 Hardin-Simmons
#22 Rowan
#25 Wabash

All of these teams certainly would have made for better competition in place of some of the weaker AQs, but if we consider where we were 12 years ago we essentially still have the "top" 16 teams playing for the national championship, but we also have a degree of equity for the undefeated teams below that threshold as well as other conference winners.  There certainly are scenarios where one of these 4 teams could win the tournament, but they would be rather unlikely.

Wel said. It's a nice combination of equal access, yet still ensuring that the best teams are able to make the show. We'll never have a perfect setup...heck, even the 64 team NCAA basketball tourney had to get expanded because 'quality' teams were getting left out  ... but I'm pretty happy with what we've got.

THen again, my team got an at-large and isn't left at home...

[PA_wesleyfan]

Hedge....Del Val just happened to be the "next great East team" of the year.  It's nothing against them personally, it's more about the theory that the East gets screwed when Mount gets placed there.  I have heard/read this argument for the past few years, and it just gets old.

I have the utmost respect for Rowan, and if they were 10-0 I would fully expect them to be a #1.  Actually, if Del Val would have "held serve", we wouldn't have had 40 pages of diatribe regarding the East getting screwed.  If any East team that played in one of the "better conferences" had an undefeated record, there would be no argument.  That hasn't happened, hence Mount getting moved.

Now that you mention it, I wasn't hugged enough as a kid.  I am going to send my MOM a nasty email.  Thanks for reminding me about THAT (dayum you mom)!   

dlip is at the point where he just concurrs. ****ing East needs and undefeated team...please at least one in the next ****ing decade  . Every conference beats the **** out of each other year in and year out. We need a king of the hill and fast!

dlip
The E8 could have had Wesley!!!! ?Just saying !!! 

[dlippiel]

Hedge....Del Val just happened to be the "next great East team" of the year.  It's nothing against them personally, it's more about the theory that the East gets screwed when Mount gets placed there.  I have heard/read this argument for the past few years, and it just gets old.

I have the utmost respect for Rowan, and if they were 10-0 I would fully expect them to be a #1.  Actually, if Del Val would have "held serve", we wouldn't have had 40 pages of diatribe regarding the East getting screwed.  If any East team that played in one of the "better conferences" had an undefeated record, there would be no argument.  That hasn't happened, hence Mount getting moved.

Now that you mention it, I wasn't hugged enough as a kid.  I am going to send my MOM a nasty email.  Thanks for reminding me about THAT (dayum you mom)!  

dlip is at the point where he just concurrs. ****ing East needs and undefeated team...please at least one in the next ****ing decade  . Every conference beats the **** out of each other year in and year out. We need a king of the hill and fast!

dlip
The E8 could have had Wesley!!!! ?Just saying !!!  

PA really??? dlip had no clue. When? Did Wesley apply and were they denied by the E8? dlip can't see how the E8 wouldn't take Wesley and yet they would welcome ****ing F State and Salisbury (although dlip is happy about Salisbury). dlip is clearly getting frustrated (hence the swearing is back ). Oh how he would love to see the East rise again...**** IT!!! dlip is going back in time to the 80s!!!

[PA_wesleyfan]

dlip

  I am not sure what came first Wesley's reprimand for financial aide problems or the invite to the E8 of FSU and SSU. But I think that may have had a little bit to do with it.
I don't see Wesley going to the NJAC any time soon either because of 100 roster limit.
With Salisbury and Frostburg headed East that Put Wesley onand even Bigger Island in the south.

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[redswarm81]

Hedge....Del Val just happened to be the "next great East team" of the year.  It's nothing against them personally, it's more about the theory that the East gets screwed when Mount gets placed there.  I have heard/read this argument for the past few years, and it just gets old.

I have the utmost respect for Rowan, and if they were 10-0 I would fully expect them to be a #1.  Actually, if Del Val would have "held serve", we wouldn't have had 40 pages of diatribe regarding the East getting screwed.  If any East team that played in one of the "better conferences" had an undefeated record, there would be no argument.  That hasn't happened, hence Mount getting moved.

Now that you mention it, I wasn't hugged enough as a kid.  I am going to send my MOM a nasty email.  Thanks for reminding me about THAT (dayum you mom)!  

dlip is at the point where he just concurrs. ****ing East needs and undefeated team...please at least one in the next ****ing decade  . Every conference beats the **** out of each other year in and year out. We need a king of the hill and fast!

There's still one undefeated East team.  Hoping that comes to an end at Merrill on saterday!

Yes but you know what dlip means AU ...and yes, best of luck to the Saxons this weekend. dlip hopes they homonogize their visitors  

Homonogize?

[AUKaz00]

Hedge....Del Val just happened to be the "next great East team" of the year.  It's nothing against them personally, it's more about the theory that the East gets screwed when Mount gets placed there.  I have heard/read this argument for the past few years, and it just gets old.

I have the utmost respect for Rowan, and if they were 10-0 I would fully expect them to be a #1.  Actually, if Del Val would have "held serve", we wouldn't have had 40 pages of diatribe regarding the East getting screwed.  If any East team that played in one of the "better conferences" had an undefeated record, there would be no argument.  That hasn't happened, hence Mount getting moved.

Now that you mention it, I wasn't hugged enough as a kid.  I am going to send my MOM a nasty email.  Thanks for reminding me about THAT (dayum you mom)!  

dlip is at the point where he just concurrs. ****ing East needs and undefeated team...please at least one in the next ****ing decade  . Every conference beats the **** out of each other year in and year out. We need a king of the hill and fast!

There's still one undefeated East team.  Hoping that comes to an end at Merrill on saterday!

Yes but you know what dlip means AU ...and yes, best of luck to the Saxons this weekend. dlip hopes they homonogize their visitors  

Homonogize?

Only on saterdays.  I'm exited!!!

[DVCFan11]

So whats everyones early predictions for the championship? I have Mt Union (AGAIN) against a surprise Wesley team. i know prob not a great pick but i went with the upset team

[lewdogg11]

NostraLD's 'East' Region(and a few others that i'm interested in) Predictions for this week:

Mount Union - 64
St. Lawrence - 0
(I tried giving St. Lawrence points here, I really did!)

Delaware Valley - 31
Salisbury - 17

Cortland St. - 45
Endicott - 10

Alfred - 24
SUNY-Maritime - 6

'South'

Hampden-Sydney - 10
Montclair St. - 6

ECAC

St. John Fisher - 24
RPI - 10

Springfield - 56
Mt. Ida - 12

[Bombers798891]

NostraLD's 'East' Region(and a few others that i'm interested in) Predictions for this week:

Mount Union - 64
St. Lawrence - 0
(I tried giving St. Lawrence points here, I really did!)

Yeah, I'm very worried about the SLU game turning into Wisconsin/Indiana minus the 20 points for Indiana. I know MUC usually gets a pretty weak team in the first round, and it's not like 56-0 or some of their previous games in the playoffs haven't been a blowout, but I worry about this game creeping up into the 70's/80's. I'm not saying MUC is going to run up the score, because they won't, but sometimes, even when you empty the bench, there's only so much you can do.

Tough break for St. Lawrence, but good on them for making the playoffs. Give 'em all you got.

I'm going to take MUC/UW-W in the finals because, well, after five seasons, I'm not going to believe in someone else until they prove it

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

NostraLD's 'East' Region(and a few others that i'm interested in) Predictions for this week:

Mount Union - 64
St. Lawrence - 0
(I tried giving St. Lawrence points here, I really did!)

Yeah, I'm very worried about the SLU game turning into Wisconsin/Indiana minus the 20 points for Indiana. I know MUC usually gets a pretty weak team in the first round, and it's not like 56-0 or some of their previous games in the playoffs haven't been a blowout, but I worry about this game creeping up into the 70's/80's. I'm not saying MUC is going to run up the score, because they won't, but sometimes, even when you empty the bench, there's only so much you can do.

Tough break for St. Lawrence, but good on them for making the playoffs. Give 'em all you got.

I'm going to take MUC/UW-W in the finals because, well, after five seasons, I'm not going to believe in someone else until they prove it

Especially in the playoffs where the rosters are limited...

[AUKaz00]

NostraLD's 'East' Region(and a few others that i'm interested in) Predictions for this week:

Mount Union - 64
St. Lawrence - 0
(I tried giving St. Lawrence points here, I really did!)

Yeah, I'm very worried about the SLU game turning into Wisconsin/Indiana minus the 20 points for Indiana. I know MUC usually gets a pretty weak team in the first round, and it's not like 56-0 or some of their previous games in the playoffs haven't been a blowout, but I worry about this game creeping up into the 70's/80's. I'm not saying MUC is going to run up the score, because they won't, but sometimes, even when you empty the bench, there's only so much you can do.

Tough break for St. Lawrence, but good on them for making the playoffs. Give 'em all you got.

I'm going to take MUC/UW-W in the finals because, well, after five seasons, I'm not going to believe in someone else until they prove it

You can always run out at the 1, take three knees and kick a field goal once you're up 50.

I went Whitewater-Wesley in the final, buying into all the Mount Union anti-hype.