East Region Playoff Discussion

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Yeah it is and I think you're probably right re the tie.

I found it interesting that BP is only sitting with a SOS of 49, which isn't bad, but it's not great either. Buff St and Alfred games will help that, but the Hartwick and SLU ones probably negate those. Now that NCC has a loss it would seem like the likely 1's will be 3 obvious ones of:

UMHB, UMU and UWO

....and it'll be btw DVC and BP on the 1 for the final bracket, with the edge probably going to DVC given the Wk 1 win over Wesley, and Widener who theoretically could be 7-2 when they play DVC in Wk 11 and should be in the ERR Top 10.

BP will probably get at least two ERR wins if Hobart takes the LL and they'd be helped if BSU (4-2) and Alfred (5-1) finish strong (but still lost to them down the stretch). With Wesley > Hobart in the eyes of the Comm, I'd say BP ends up lower than DVC as the LL and E8 both seem down this season.

Given BP's geo location, I could see them paired in a bracket with a team like UWO, given what we saw with Hobart in 2012, but most likely they'd be the #2 in a bracket with UMU. I could then see it set up so DVC plays teams from like ODAC, PAC, etc. and ultimately end up going to UMHB, if they can run the gamut, which may not happen.
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I going to be honest here, I can only see Wesley, Brockport, Delaware Valley, Frostburg State, and maybe Springfield winning more than two games in the playoffs. Unfortunately, of those teams, they are most likely going be playing each other second round and if not playing Mount Union or getting shipped to Linfield (I know Linfield fans would love for Wesley go play out there). 

ccd494

Seems like Husson could geographically reach anyone in the CCC, NEWMAC or MASCAC mix except Western Connecticut.  RPI is a narrow miss.

D3MAFAN

Quote from: ccd494 on October 20, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Seems like Husson could geographically reach anyone in the CCC, NEWMAC or MASCAC mix except Western Connecticut.  RPI is a narrow miss.

I think its safe to say that Husson in the current format will always play a team from NE due to travel limitation.  Regardless if seeds are very near or far in between. This results in a higher seed playing another higher seed in the 1st round. Is it right? I don't know, however to be fair, regardless of when you play a team you have to win the game.

Upstate

Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 20, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: ccd494 on October 20, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Seems like Husson could geographically reach anyone in the CCC, NEWMAC or MASCAC mix except Western Connecticut.  RPI is a narrow miss.

I think its safe to say that Husson in the current format will always play a team from NE due to travel limitation.  Regardless if seeds are very near or far in between. This results in a higher seed playing another higher seed in the 1st round. Is it right? I don't know, however to be fair, regardless of when you play a team you have to win the game.

Of course it's not right.

There's no debate.
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Quote from: Upstate on October 20, 2017, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 20, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: ccd494 on October 20, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Seems like Husson could geographically reach anyone in the CCC, NEWMAC or MASCAC mix except Western Connecticut.  RPI is a narrow miss.

I think its safe to say that Husson in the current format will always play a team from NE due to travel limitation.  Regardless if seeds are very near or far in between. This results in a higher seed playing another higher seed in the 1st round. Is it right? I don't know, however to be fair, regardless of when you play a team you have to win the game.

Of course it's not right.

There's no debate.
We should ask the entire D3 Texas crew about their opinion on it...since that rule scr@ws them just about every year... ???

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Not many changes going into Wk 9, but here's the latest:

CCC - Still a 3-team race btw WNE, Salve and Curry. Hawks and Bears play Saturday setting up Elimination Game 1
ECFC - Husson
E8 - Brockport
LL - Union in drivers seat but still needs to beat IC and RPI. If IC beats Union on 11/4, IC wins the LL if Union beats RPI in Shoes game on 11/11. If Union wins and RPI stays at 1 loss in LL play, the winner of that Shoes game is the Pool A winner.
MAC - DelVal, but Widener keeping place for potential Wk 11 showdown
MASCAC - Plymouth St, Fram St and West Conn still in mix
NEWMAC - SC and MIT in top spot, big game btw WPI and MIT this weekend.
NJAC - Still Wesley and Salisbury at top, with Frostburg hoping to go 9-1 and get a Pool C. Round robin of Wes vs. Sals in Wk 10 and Frostburg vs. Sals in Wk 11 will decide the champion.

If I did a mock regional ranking, the Top 5 would be pretty straightforward:

1. DVC
2. BP
3. SC (although I could see them as 4 bc of Wes having a win over RRO whereas I doubt SC will)
4. WES
5. Frosty

After that it gets a little tricky. This wkd will clear some of this up, maybe.
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Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 20, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: ccd494 on October 20, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Seems like Husson could geographically reach anyone in the CCC, NEWMAC or MASCAC mix except Western Connecticut.  RPI is a narrow miss.

I think its safe to say that Husson in the current format will always play a team from NE due to travel limitation.  Regardless if seeds are very near or far in between. This results in a higher seed playing another higher seed in the 1st round. Is it right? I don't know, however to be fair, regardless of when you play a team you have to win the game.

But hey, what about a neutral site? You know, Husson (about 2 hour trip) and Linfield (about 1 hour trip) could meet up in Portland!!
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Quote from: AUPepBand on October 23, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 20, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: ccd494 on October 20, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Seems like Husson could geographically reach anyone in the CCC, NEWMAC or MASCAC mix except Western Connecticut.  RPI is a narrow miss.

I think its safe to say that Husson in the current format will always play a team from NE due to travel limitation.  Regardless if seeds are very near or far in between. This results in a higher seed playing another higher seed in the 1st round. Is it right? I don't know, however to be fair, regardless of when you play a team you have to win the game.

But hey, what about a neutral site? You know, Husson (about 2 hour trip) and Linfield (about 1 hour trip) could meet up in Portland!!

I wish we had a portal to merge the two Portlands together like that. :)
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2017, 03:58:02 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on October 23, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 20, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: ccd494 on October 20, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Seems like Husson could geographically reach anyone in the CCC, NEWMAC or MASCAC mix except Western Connecticut.  RPI is a narrow miss.

I think its safe to say that Husson in the current format will always play a team from NE due to travel limitation.  Regardless if seeds are very near or far in between. This results in a higher seed playing another higher seed in the 1st round. Is it right? I don't know, however to be fair, regardless of when you play a team you have to win the game.

But hey, what about a neutral site? You know, Husson (about 2 hour trip) and Linfield (about 1 hour trip) could meet up in Portland!!

I wish we had a portal to merge the two Portlands together like that. :)

Years ago, Pep was singing with a church group that included AU students....to the left was a young man from Portland, OR (one of the five co-founders of the AU Pep Kazoo Band in 1999) and to the right was a young lady from Portland, ME. Pep was that portal connecting the two.

Perhaps that was the subconscious reason Pep went coast-to-coast in his PT Cruiser last summer...to connect the Ports once again.

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Quote from: ITH radio on October 23, 2017, 01:26:07 PM
Not many changes going into Wk 9, but here's the latest:

CCC - Still a 3-team race btw WNE, Salve and Curry. Hawks and Bears play Saturday setting up Elimination Game 1
ECFC - Husson
E8 - Brockport
LL - Union in drivers seat but still needs to beat IC and RPI. If IC beats Union on 11/4, IC wins the LL if Union beats RPI in Shoes game on 11/11. If Union wins and RPI stays at 1 loss in LL play, the winner of that Shoes game is the Pool A winner.
MAC - DelVal, but Widener keeping place for potential Wk 11 showdown
MASCAC - Plymouth St, Fram St and West Conn still in mix
NEWMAC - SC and MIT in top spot, big game btw WPI and MIT this weekend.
NJAC - Still Wesley and Salisbury at top, with Frostburg hoping to go 9-1 and get a Pool C. Round robin of Wes vs. Sals in Wk 10 and Frostburg vs. Sals in Wk 11 will decide the champion.

If I did a mock regional ranking, the Top 5 would be pretty straightforward:

1. DVC
2. BP
3. SC (although I could see them as 4 bc of Wes having a win over RRO whereas I doubt SC will)
4. WES
5. Frosty

After that it gets a little tricky. This wkd will clear some of this up, maybe.

RR's will be interesting for the East.  When do they come out?

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ICYMI - and thx to Pat for sharing this earlier to help promote this wrap-around show.

https://www.facebook.com/D3Huddle/videos/1469898976442576/

Of particular note is the 2hr 14 min mark when you can see the brutal hit BP QB Joe Germiniero took in their game vs Alfred. Also shows the crazy ending of West Conn - FSU that gave Plymouth the MASCAC title.

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wesleydad

The results this week set up some interesting scenarios for the East.  One that I am looking at is the fact that the MASCAC may have a chance to get 2 teams in the playoffs.  Plymouth St. has the AQ by virtue of their win over Framingham.  With a win Framingham will be 9-1.  After seeing Salisbury yesterday they have a good chance to beat Frostburg leaving both teams at 8-2.  With Union, W. Conn, and Curry all losing yesterday you would figure that Framingham moves into the RR.  If Salisbury does beat Frostburg it would look like Framingham could/would be the first team on the board from the east unless Springfield does not get the pool B bid, I think they will, but you never know.  If Framingham is on the board at the start they are not likely to be passed over 5 times.  Now this is all mute if Widener somehow beats Del Val and wins the MAC AQ.  If that plays out then Del Val would be the first team up for the east.  The first RR shows that the East committee does not have a bias against the New England schools so this is a real distinct possibility.