East Region Playoff Discussion

[Mr. Ypsi]

we gave 1-month old Ollie UM shoes but no one remembered to put them on him!

Ollie's a month old and can't put his own damn shoes on?  Kids today. 

(Sigh)

Yeah, I know!

But I'm not sure anyone let him know the shoes existed, and he doesn't get around very well yet.  In a couple of years you'd better watch out - though I think we'll need bigger shoes by then.

And if Maisie can stay awake, you guys are in trouble!

[jamtod]

we gave 1-month old Ollie UM shoes but no one remembered to put them on him!

Ollie's a month old and can't put his own damn shoes on?  Kids today. 

(Sigh)

Somebody give Coach Kehres a heads up. He can still probably get in to Mount Union.

[OzJohnnie]

Bottom line, though, academic arguments on these boards get a bit tiresome.

That's because you're not too smart. 

[OzJohnnie]

For SJU, I'd say that getting students to a rural, all-male campus is much tougher these days than when I was looking at colleges in the '70s. I chose between SJU and Mac and was glad I did. (And, over the years, I've had to help out a family member, who was a Carleton guy ....). 

I went to Macalester out of high school.  I fit in like Michael Moore squeezed into a mankini (beware the Google search.  That which has been seen can never be unseen).  It was ugly.  After two years of struggling to be a square peg in a round hole I said, "That's it.  I can' stand this ****" and I joined the navy.  After my service term of chipping paint and cleaning heads I said, "**** this.  I'm going back to school."  I set my criteria as two things: 1) go to a school where people go to school primarily to learn and leave, and 2) go somewhere that loves football because I can't deal with any more sour-pusses who hate being alive.

And I picked St John's, did extremely well and I never looked back.

The moral of the story is not that SJU is a great place for men to learn and live (although it is that mos' def'n'ly) but that to do anything in life you must know just one thing.  Yourself.  You could go to Harvard, Oxford or the local Vo-Tech, it matters not.  Know yourself.  And that, there, is the one lesson I've tried to teach my own kids.  It would be nice if they could have a whole set of different struggles in their lives, rather than trying to learn the lessons which I have already uncovered.

[Ice Bear]

That's ok. Maybe he can play college ball in the North, South or West.

Well played, dlip enjoyed this.

[Ice Bear]

We've had this conversation many times before. Dlip used to buy into it a tad but that was based upon his own east region insecurities (he spent many years in counseling because of this). This season is just another example of the east region not having anyone that has even a remote chance to challenge for The Stagg. He'll go as far as to say the B-Port was quite overrated throughout the year (belonging maybe between 7-12) as was Frosty the (D2) Snowman. Yes we have "good" football in the east, even a plethora of "good" football teams but IDLHO when compared to the other regions we sit well below the North and West (we're closer to the south) when it comes to tier one and two teams.

Dlip has only heard one reason as to why that he feels may explain why, that reason is the density of schools in the east that may have an impact on recruiting. Aside from that...we just haven't honestly been a threat, even in the semi's since the ****ing wheel was invented. *See our regions orgasm last season over a 24-0 loss where we threw a pick 6 on the first offensive series looking like a youth football team playing against Jesus Christ...we felt like we belonged.

[repete]

See, Oz, that's why I'm so much smarter than you ... I never signed on the dotted line at Mac out of  HS.

Hate getting caught up in  posts like these, it's a character flaw methinks. While I've absolutely no interest in deciding what Midwestern school is the Harvard o' the Prairies (I'll leave that to Carleton, Grinnell and Wash U. grads), I did take exception to the post that implied that based on acceptance rate alone, SJU was some academic weakling that only cares about getting football players in the door. I've been watching d3 since the early '70s and have seen all kinds of programs do well -- including a Carleton MIAC title.

Your point about finding the school that works for you is spot on. On the MIAC board, it's common for some folks to kid about Augie Tech. All good fun, but while I know folks who got in there because Augie would take a chance on kids who might not get in elsewhere, I  have three friends among the grads: 1) a professor with a law degree who teaches at a Wis. d3 school, 2) a director of admissions at a Big Ten school, 3) a nationally regarded transplant specialist at Michigan. No school-choice regrets in that bunch.

Like you, SJU worked for me and helped me get to a great place. I just have to remember not to  post during Packer-Vikings games.

[Jonny Utah]

Wesley went 6 - 4 and probably should have been 10 - 0.

WesleyDad, I generally have a very high regard for your posts but:

"Come on, man!"

There are several posters in the east region who don't know the proper usage of the words should or could.  (Wesleydad knows his football though)

[wesleydad]

Wesley went 6 - 4 and probably should have been 10 - 0.

WesleyDad, I generally have a very high regard for your posts but:

"Come on, man!"

edward, dont just pick one sentence out of the entire post in the discussion.  they easily could have been 10-0.  It is hard to lose 4 games by a total of 5 points, with all loses having a missed kick in them.

[MRMIKESMITH]

Wesley went 6 - 4 and probably should have been 10 - 0.

WesleyDad, I generally have a very high regard for your posts but:

"Come on, man!"

edward, dont just pick one sentence out of the entire post in the discussion.  they easily could have been 10-0.  It is hard to lose 4 games by a total of 5 points, with all loses having a missed kick in them.

Regardless, it was a fun season and some interesting competitive games, with each quality team having a chance to beat the other. Regardless of rankings in the East (from a East perspective), games were interesting and at this point, could not care less what everyone else thinks. Just want to watch good D3 Football and see some new teams against the familiar top dogs and the interesting storylines that the front page offers.

[Ice Bear]

Wesley went 6 - 4 and probably should have been 10 - 0.

WesleyDad, I generally have a very high regard for your posts but:

"Come on, man!"

edward, dont just pick one sentence out of the entire post in the discussion.  they easily could have been 10-0.  It is hard to lose 4 games by a total of 5 points, with all loses having a missed kick in them.

Regardless, it was a fun season and some interesting competitive games, with each quality team having a chance to beat the other. Regardless of rankings in the East (from a East perspective), games were interesting and at this point, could not care less what everyone else thinks. Just want to watch good D3 Football and see some new teams against the familiar top dogs and the interesting storylines that the front page offers.

Well said.

[repete]

Wesley went 6 - 4 and probably should have been 10 - 0.

WesleyDad, I generally have a very high regard for your posts but:

"Come on, man!"

edward, dont just pick one sentence out of the entire post in the discussion.  they easily could have been 10-0.  It is hard to lose 4 games by a total of 5 points, with all loses having a missed kick in them.

Regardless, it was a fun season and some interesting competitive games, with each quality team having a chance to beat the other. Regardless of rankings in the East (from a East perspective), games were interesting and at this point, could not care less what everyone else thinks. Just want to watch good D3 Football and see some new teams against the familiar top dogs and the interesting storylines that the front page offers.

Vivid memories of a wild game in Dover against Linfield a few years back. As much as I like the West and the purple guys from Oregon, that was a super game to see.

[edward de vere]

Wesley went 6 - 4 and probably should have been 10 - 0.

WesleyDad, I generally have a very high regard for your posts but:

"Come on, man!"

edward, dont just pick one sentence out of the entire post in the discussion.  they easily could have been 10-0.  It is hard to lose 4 games by a total of 5 points, with all loses having a missed kick in them.

Well, let's say Wesley WON those four games by a total of 5 points.  Each of the four losers could come back and say:

1)  We should have won but we missed a kick.

2)  We should have won but our QB overthrew a wide receiver wide open for a touchdown on third down.

3)  We should have won but the refs missed a blatant holding call.

4)  We should have won but our QB didn't hold the ball and bounce to the outside on 4th-&-goal instead of handing off to the fullback.  EVERY single defender had sold out to the inside.

And then Wesley reverts to . . . 6-4.

[Bartman]

Wesley went 6 - 4 and probably should have been 10 - 0.

WesleyDad, I generally have a very high regard for your posts but:

"Come on, man!"

edward, dont just pick one sentence out of the entire post in the discussion.  they easily could have been 10-0.  It is hard to lose 4 games by a total of 5 points, with all loses having a missed kick in them.

Regardless, it was a fun season and some interesting competitive games, with each quality team having a chance to beat the other. Regardless of rankings in the East (from a East perspective), games were interesting and at this point, could not care less what everyone else thinks. Just want to watch good D3 Football and see some new teams against the familiar top dogs and the interesting storylines that the front page offers.

Well said.

Totally agree... over analyzing the East versus the top 8 teams in the country.......hey BPort had their worst game of the season at the wrong time against a good team that took advantage.....in Football you have one shot...basketball and baseball you can play a series and have a bad game and still win....BPort was no UMU or UMHB, but I still think they were a special team "in the East" the last 2 years
....the East has many more solid second tier teams IMO and I love the competition

[wesleydad]

Good game tomorrow, who you got?  RPI or Hopkins?  I have Hopkins winning 35 - 14.