East Region Playoff Discussion

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This is My prediction, which by default includes how I think the Alfred/SJF and Cortaca jug games will go: 

1.  Cortland -- Pool A
2.  Muhlenberg  -- Pool A
3.  Montclair State -- Pool C
4.  Hobart -- Pool A
5.  Ithaca -- Pool A
6.  Plymouth State -- Pool A
7. RPI -- Pool C
8.  Albright -- Pool A

[redswarm81]

This is My prediction, which by default includes how I think the Alfred/SJF and Cortaca jug games will go: 

1.  Cortland -- Pool A
2.  Muhlenberg  -- Pool A
3.  Montclair State -- Pool C
4.  Hobart -- Pool A
5.  Ithaca -- Pool A
6.  Plymouth State -- Pool A
7. RPI -- Pool C
8.  Albright -- Pool A

Muhlenberg imported from South as a no. 2 seed, interesting idea.  I suppose it could happen.  I have a hunch that East Region playoff teams can compete with the Mules.

I don't see how a two-loss Ithaca gets seeded no. 5.  I think they'd have to go in at no. 7.  That would send them to Allentown for a first round game at Muhlenberg.  Should be a good game.

But the Cortaca Jug game looks amazing right now.

[SJFF82]

This is My prediction, which by default includes how I think the Alfred/SJF and Cortaca jug games will go: 

1.  Cortland -- Pool A
2.  Muhlenberg  -- Pool A
3.  Montclair State -- Pool C
4.  Hobart -- Pool A
5.  Ithaca -- Pool A
6.  Plymouth State -- Pool A
7. RPI -- Pool C
8.  Albright -- Pool A

Muhlenberg imported from South as a no. 2 seed, interesting idea.  I suppose it could happen.  I have a hunch that East Region playoff teams can compete with the Mules.

I don't see how a two-loss Ithaca gets seeded no. 5.  I think they'd have to go in at no. 7.  That would send them to Allentown for a first round game at Muhlenberg.  Should be a good game.

But the Cortaca Jug game looks amazing right now.

Does everyone remeber the last Mules team that came East with the number 1 rushing offense in the land?

[SJFF82]

This is My prediction, which by default includes how I think the Alfred/SJF and Cortaca jug games will go: 

1.  Cortland -- Pool A
2.  Muhlenberg  -- Pool A
3.  Montclair State -- Pool C
4.  Hobart -- Pool A
5.  Ithaca -- Pool A
6.  Plymouth State -- Pool A
7. RPI -- Pool C
8.  Albright -- Pool A

Are you serious, a 4 loss SJF team with its only losses to MUC, Salisbury in 4ot, Wick by 3 and a good AU team on the road not in?

[theoriginalupstate]

This is My prediction, which by default includes how I think the Alfred/SJF and Cortaca jug games will go: 

1.  Cortland -- Pool A
2.  Muhlenberg  -- Pool A
3.  Montclair State -- Pool C
4.  Hobart -- Pool A
5.  Ithaca -- Pool A
6.  Plymouth State -- Pool A
7. RPI -- Pool C
8.  Albright -- Pool A

Muhlenberg imported from South as a no. 2 seed, interesting idea.  I suppose it could happen.  I have a hunch that East Region playoff teams can compete with the Mules.

I don't see how a two-loss Ithaca gets seeded no. 5.  I think they'd have to go in at no. 7.  That would send them to Allentown for a first round game at Muhlenberg.  Should be a good game.

But the Cortaca Jug game looks amazing right now.

Does everyone remeber the last Mules team that came East with the number 1 rushing offense in the land?

They were ranked #1 on defense, not offense...

And Mr. Robinson had close to 200yds at halftime...

[SJFF82]

This is My prediction, which by default includes how I think the Alfred/SJF and Cortaca jug games will go: 

1.  Cortland -- Pool A
2.  Muhlenberg  -- Pool A
3.  Montclair State -- Pool C
4.  Hobart -- Pool A
5.  Ithaca -- Pool A
6.  Plymouth State -- Pool A
7. RPI -- Pool C
8.  Albright -- Pool A

Muhlenberg imported from South as a no. 2 seed, interesting idea.  I suppose it could happen.  I have a hunch that East Region playoff teams can compete with the Mules.

I don't see how a two-loss Ithaca gets seeded no. 5.  I think they'd have to go in at no. 7.  That would send them to Allentown for a first round game at Muhlenberg.  Should be a good game.

But the Cortaca Jug game looks amazing right now.

Does everyone remeber the last Mules team that came East with the number 1 rushing offense in the land?

They were ranked #1 on defense, not offense...

And Mr. Robinson had close to 200yds at halftime...

Yes that is correct...thanks

[pumkinattack]

Remember that seeding don't necessarily dictate matchups.  Hobart has played against "random" seeds a couple of years, including last year when they were the 5 and SJF was the 2.  So seeding and matchup may not be symmetrical.  Multiple teams from the same conference further complicates matters, so if Ithaca/SJF, Montclair and/or RPI get in (assuming Hobart wins next week), I could see one or two matchups not dictated by seed.

I also wonder if Hobart might jump Montclair in the regional rankings.  No doubt, Bart's loss was worse, but with a little seasoning and a superior win this week (on the road vs. a higher ranked opponent) could this occur?  Given the above, I'm not really sweating seeding if Bart gets in, but just curious about how the committee has operated in the past on this. 

[Jonny Utah]

Remember that seeding don't necessarily dictate matchups.  Hobart has played against "random" seeds a couple of years, including last year when they were the 5 and SJF was the 2.  So seeding and matchup may not be symmetrical.  Multiple teams from the same conference further complicates matters, so if Ithaca/SJF, Montclair and/or RPI get in (assuming Hobart wins next week), I could see one or two matchups not dictated by seed.

I also wonder if Hobart might jump Montclair in the regional rankings.  No doubt, Bart's loss was worse, but with a little seasoning and a superior win this week (on the road vs. a higher ranked opponent) could this occur?  Given the above, I'm not really sweating seeding if Bart gets in, but just curious about how the committee has operated in the past on this. 

Yea I could see Hobart getting the 3-8 seed.  Kind of all depends on what other teams do for their seed though.

[labart96]

Remember that seeding don't necessarily dictate matchups.  Hobart has played against "random" seeds a couple of years, including last year when they were the 5 and SJF was the 2.  So seeding and matchup may not be symmetrical.  Multiple teams from the same conference further complicates matters, so if Ithaca/SJF, Montclair and/or RPI get in (assuming Hobart wins next week), I could see one or two matchups not dictated by seed.

I also wonder if Hobart might jump Montclair in the regional rankings.  No doubt, Bart's loss was worse, but with a little seasoning and a superior win this week (on the road vs. a higher ranked opponent) could this occur?  Given the above, I'm not really sweating seeding if Bart gets in, but just curious about how the committee has operated in the past on this. 

interesting thought, but i don't see it happening.  montclair's close loss to cortland, national ranking, and impressive win over a good rowan team last weekend keeps hobart below them - but that's just my opinion.....

re: seedings - other than the #1 it's kind of a crap shoot (especially considering how hanna has run things in the past ie, the 2nd round del val game when hobart was the higher seed that c/should have been a home game for hobart, but instead hanna thought it would be better for the team to travel 300-400 miles to DE instead).

[labart96]

East Region (as of last updated rankings)
1. Cortland State 8-0 8-0 - beat Brockport - stays put at 1
2. RPI 7-0 7-0 - lost to Hobart will probably drop to below 4 or 5
3. Ithaca 6-1 7-1 - beat Alfred - either moves to 2 or stays at 3
4. Montclair State 7-1 7-1 - beat Rowan either moves to 2 or 3
5. Rowan 7-1 7-1 - lost to Montclair - probably drops to 6-8
6. Hartwick 6-1 6-1 - lost to Springfield - either drops out or down to 9 or 10
7. Hobart 6-1 6-1 - beat RPI - probabaly moves up to 4
8. Plymouth State 7-1 8-1 - beat Salve Regina - stands pat or moves up to 6 or 7
9. Husson 6-0 6-2 - beat Becker - moves up to 6-8
10. Curry 7-1 8-1 - beat Umassdarts - moves up

Possible we see SJFC back in the poll this week(?)

[theoriginalupstate]

If North Central wins next week vs a 7-2 Elmhurst team (not a given) and MUC wins next week (probably a given) then MUC will probably be shipped over regardless of the results of Cortaca.

North Central is ranked #2 in the North, #2 in the D3.com and #4 in the AFCA poll, if they go 10-0 the NCAA will feel that they deserve a #1 seed and the easiest solution would be to put MUC in the East, North Central in the North, Muhlenburgh or Millsaps in the South and Williamette/Occidental/Monmouth in the West...

If Cortland and SJF win:
1-MUC
2-Cortland
3-Hobart
4-Montclair
5-SJF
6-Plymouth St
7-Lyco
8-RPI

If Cortland loses and SJF wins:
1-MUC
2-Ithaca
3-Cortland
4-Hobart
5-Montclair
6-SJF
7-Plymouth St
8-Lyco

If Cortland wins and SJF loses:
1-MUC
2-Cortland
3-Hobart
4-Montclair
5-Ithaca
6-Plymouth St
7-RPI
8-Lyco

If Cortland loses and SJF loses:
1-MUC
2-Ithaca
3-Cortland
4-Hobart
5-Montclair
6-Plymouth St
7-RPI
8-Lyco

[Ralph Turner]

Upstate, so you think that Albright will lose out in the MAC?   (Thanks.    )

[theoriginalupstate]

Upstate, so you think that Albright will lose out in the MAC?   (Thanks.    )

Yeah, they have DVC...if DVC beats Albright and Lyco beats Leb Valley Lyco is in...I think

[Jonny Utah]

And you also think an 8-1 RPI gets the pool C over an 8-2 Ithaca  but a 7-3 SJF would get it over the 8-1 RPI?

[Cardinal 4 Life]

fisher would be a pool A if they win Saturday.....only way they get in