East Region Playoff Discussion

[theoriginalupstate]

And you also think an 8-1 RPI gets the pool C over an 8-2 Ithaca  but a 7-3 SJF would get it over the 8-1 RPI?

A 7-3 SJF team automatically goes!

Yes I think RPI gets in over IC...

[Jonny Utah]

And you also think an 8-1 RPI gets the pool C over an 8-2 Ithaca  but a 7-3 SJF would get it over the 8-1 RPI?

A 7-3 SJF team automatically goes!

Yes I think RPI gets in over IC...

Never mind!  good work. 

[AUKaz00]

An interesting post from the NEFC board by 63Center from Thursday that I thought should get bumped to this thread:

I can't see the NEFC getting a second team into the NCAA.  There are a lot of other teams that are more deserving, even if they have 2 losses, due to plaing a more competitve schedule.  If teams like Curry or BSC want to make it into the NCAA without winning the NEFC they are going to have to play and beat a couple of good competive teams and that won't happen until there is scheduling relief from the NEFC that will allow them to play more games outside of the NEFC.  Maybe one answer would be to only require the NEFC teams to play all of the teams within their division (Boyd and Bogan), but no cross-over games.  That allows them to  play anyone else for the rest of the games. The two teams with the best divisional records play for the NEFC championship and be the AQ for the NEFC.  Just a thought.

I'd have to agree (as most reading this thread) that the NEFC will only get 1 team into the NCAA due to the perceived relative lack of strength in the NEFC.  Some follow-ups to this post theorized that strong OOC competition for the NEFC are a no-lose proposition since they are expected to lose and currently only get 1 bid to the tournament a year anyway.  A couple of "upsets" might change the perception of the league and provide a better chance for the top teams to secure an at-large selection.

[AUKaz00]

For those of us not lucky enough to have their team in the NCAAs here is the list of schools that declared for the ECACs this year (with a strikethrough for Pool A teams and teams with a high probability of making the NCAA field):

Hobart College
SUNY Maritime
St. John Fisher
Husson
MIT
Curry College
RPI
Hartwick College
Plymouth State University
WPI
Alfred University
Ithaca
Union
Salisbury University
Montclair State University
The College at Brockport
William Paterson
Lebanon Valley College
Muhlenberg College
Delaware valley
FDU-Florham
Albright College
Kean University
Widener University
Moravian College
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins University
Frostburg State University
Grove City College
Waynesburg University
Washington & Jefferson College
Catholic University
Gettysburg
Wesley College

From a personal standpoint, I'd love to see an Alfred-Moravian ECAC since my cousin is a Moravian grad and that would make for a fun afternoon and interesting Thanksgiving dinner!

[pg04]

I'd love to see Brockport (presuming they make it to 6-4 after playing Buff state) vs. the E8 team that gets left out between Fisher or Ithaca.  It's also possible we could see a Brockport vs. Alfred matchup... That's relatively close. 

[theoriginalupstate]

I'd love to see Brockport (presuming they make it to 6-4 after playing Buff state) vs. the E8 team that gets left out between Fisher or Ithaca.  It's also possible we could see a Brockport vs. Alfred matchup... That's relatively close. 

AU vs Port would be interesting....

If its at Port i'd take the 10 minute drive down 31 to go the game...

[theoriginalupstate]

Upstate's Tuesday Edition Of His East Region Projection:

1) Muhlenburgh (10-0)
2) Ithaca (9-1)
3) Hobart (8-1)
4) Cortland (9-1)
5) Albright (8-2)
6) Montclair (9-1)
7) Plymouth St (10-1)
8.) SJFC (7-3)

[Ralph Turner]

Upstate's Tuesday Edition Of His East Region Projection:

1) Muhlenberg (10-0)  CC Pool A
2) Ithaca (9-1)   Pool C
3) Hobart (8-1)  Pool A  LL
4) Cortland (9-1)  Pool C
5) Albright (8-2)  Pool A MAC
6) Montclair (9-1)  Pool C NJAC
7) Plymouth St (10-1)  Pool A  NEFC
8.) SJFC (7-3)       Pool A E8

Following your thinking here, friend... 

At the Pool C table, we have

East:  Ithaca, Cortland, Montclair
South:  HSU W&J
North:  Otterbein (if they win this weekend), CCIW 2-loss runner-up, OAC 2-loss #3 team
West:  UW-Whitewater (assuming UW-SP wins), Redlands

In no certain order, the first five teams off the table include Ithaca, Cortland, HSU, Otterbein and UW-Whitewater.

Montclair comes off over W&J, CCIW runner-up and Redlands.

[superman57]

cortland is a pool a... and for everyone's sake lets hope UW-SP loses this weekend... here's a question since there is no sure fire #1 in the west why not send a Wabash or North Central to the west instead of the east... though this is all dependent on Cortland winning and giving the east a viable #1

[redswarm81]

RS81's Mod of Upstate's Tuesday Edition Of His East Region Projection:

1.) Muhlenberg (10-0)  CC Pool A
2.) Ithaca (9-1)   Pool C E8
3.) Cortland (9-1)  Pool A NJAC
4.) Montclair (9-1)  Pool C NJAC
5.) Hobart (8-1)  Pool A  LL
6.) RPI (8-1)  Pool C LL
7.) Plymouth St (10-1)  Pool A  NEFC
8.) SJFC (7-3)       Pool A E8

Okay, let me try ... 

At the Pool C table, we have

East:  Ithaca, Montclair, RPI
South:  HSU W&J
North:  Otterbein (if they win this weekend), CCIW 2-loss runner-up, OAC 2-loss #3 team
West:  UW-Whitewater (assuming UW-SP wins), Redlands

In no certain order, the first five teams off the table include Ithaca, Montclair, HSU, Otterbein and UW-Whitewater.

RPI arm wrestles W&J, CCIW runner-up and Redlands.

Albright gets shipped south, for a first round game v. Salisbury.

I do enjoy seeing a Pool C team ranked so much higher than the Pool A team from its conference, but I can't let Hobart leapfrog Montclair, and Upstate, you can't let an unranked MAC team in ahead of ranked Plymouth St.

[theoriginalupstate]

Based on the new Regional Rankings it looks like SJF, if they get in, will be the #8 seed for the NCAAs and will be heading to either Cortland or Mount Union...

[Bombers798891]

Based on the new Regional Rankings it looks like SJF, if they get in, will be the #8 seed for the NCAAs and will be heading to either Cortland or Mount Union...

I posted this in the E8 board, sorry for the repost. Re: the reginoal rankings

I have to say, how in the world did Hartwick stay at #6? I know Rowan fell behind them with their second loss, but man, that tells you a lot about how bad the East is. A team with a 6-1 region record can lose to a 2-6 squad and they can't find more than one team to jump them?

Also, kind of a strange question: What role do these rankings play in selections of at-large teams? I ask because it looks like IC will get left out if they lose this week. I know the auto-bids mess things up so some team ranked below IC will clinch a Pool A bid, but I see IC at #2 and playing on the road at #1 and it's kind of amazing that you can go from being #2 one week to missing out all-together.

I'm not saying it's unfair, mind you. Looks like we have 10 one-loss teams vying for 6 spots right now. So obviously, a lot of them would need to lose for an 8-2 IC team to get in---and frankly, 8-2 and a backdoor bid shouldn't be IC's goal anyway. I guess it's just a bit wierd to think the #2 team could lose to the #1 team and miss out on the playoffs all together. Thoughts?

[fisheralum91]

sweet mother o pearl wick is number 6 on the regional rankings -unreal

[gordonmann]

Albright gets shipped south, for a first round game v. Salisbury.

Salisbury is a long shot at best to make the playoffs.  Albright could travel to Muhlenberg instead, though.  Reading to Allentown is a very short trip.

['gro]

meant to post this here...

Gro thinks that if Cortland wins they should get a #1 seed.  Gro has no issues shipping Mount Union east either, it makes geographical sense... but not if Cortland is 10-0. Muhlenburg is another option but I don't think they beat out Cortland either... They out there with some teams very far away (MS, TX). Ship them east, as a #2... or bring in Case Western as a high (home game) seed.

Cortaca affects many teams this weekend.