East Region Playoff Discussion

[Senor RedTackle]

#5 LYCOMING (+17.5) at #4 HOBART

LOL...+17.5?? Has hscoach seen Hobart this year? Nothing personal but the last 2 weeks haven't exactly been an offensive juggernaut up there in Geneva. If hobart wins this game, it's less then 8 points.

phone it in

[pumkinattack]

Yeah, its actually a good matchup.  If Doyle is healthy and the weather is reasonable, Bart could probably get some points through the air.  Vincent has been a beast the last four weeks doing everything he can. 

Based on what I'm seeing, I think Bart can shut them down though. 

[maxpower]

Quick question.  If IC and Cortland get by their first round matchups will Cortaca tickets be easier to get with the student bodies on vacation and the fact that money would have to be paid for every ticket rather then students getting free ones or will the tickets get that much harder to get?

Much easier. Besides all the things you mentioned, most IC students don't even know the football team plays other games besides the "official" Cortaca. DAMN I wish I could be there......

['gro]

If any of you east guys are interested, you're more than welcome to join our OAC Playoff Pick-Em Contest. 

Here's a small taste to peek your interest:

EAST REGION

#8 RANDOLPH-MACON (+54.5) at #1 MOUNT UNION

#5 LYCOMING (+17.5) at #4 HOBART

#6 PLYMOUTH ST. (+30.5) at #3 CORTLAND ST.

#7 CURRY (+35.5) at #2 ITHACA

Give me every dog 'cept Randolph Duke

[fisheralum91]

"turn those machines back on"

[union89]

When you just throw out the term weak in reference to the NEFC.... that is exactly what the NCAA feels about the East.
The entire east needs to get off it high horse and realize the nation has caught up.
The last eastern champion was IC in 91.. none of these teams from these "strong" conferences have really come close... yes the Rowan teams gave us a nice run.  RPI a few years back was nice but unsustained.
The St. John Fisher v MUC three years ago was a surprise.  Once the Mount really prepared for STJ Fish they crushed the cardinal.

The number one thing holding back the east is that most of the schools are private and massively expensive.  Since prop 91 ( no financial aid to special talents) the east has had a hard time.  

So yea, the Weak NEFC got in two but everyone else got beat.  RPI needed to beat Kings Point but got stung.

Odd year

mel, I don't thin it's the cost of the schools so much as the density of the schools.  Mount Union is a private school that will run you over $30 grand a year.  For example, in Worcester, Mass there are three schools all near each other (Becker, WPI, Worcester State) and a whole bunch close by.  That's a talent drain.  I don't know if that is the real problem, but it doesn't help those teams get better. 

Though I'm an NEFC fan I'm surprised that Curry got it.  More so because no other non-AQ team from the East got it.  By putting Mount Union in the East they're saying the East isn't even good enough to have their own #1 team.  If anything you would think that since Mount Union has to be the best team in the North that they should seed #1 out there and some other team could have been the #1 in the East, even from the North.  This is what happens when the NCAA is engineering what they want for the final four.

No way a kid looking at WPI is also looking at Worcester State.....I know what you are attempting to say, but this argument is miserably flawed.....

[Bombers798891]

Quick question.  If IC and Cortland get by their first round matchups will Cortaca tickets be easier to get with the student bodies on vacation and the fact that money would have to be paid for every ticket rather then students getting free ones or will the tickets get that much harder to get?

From my understanding, it wasn't that big a deal in 1988, and Ithaca was a bigger powerhouse then. I'd imagine you wouldn't have a big problem, although I'd suspect tickets may only be available at the gates. I'm not totally sure, since it's been awhile since we were hosting

[realistic]

Quick question.  If IC and Cortland get by their first round matchups will Cortaca tickets be easier to get with the student bodies on vacation and the fact that money would have to be paid for every ticket rather then students getting free ones or will the tickets get that much harder to get?

From my understanding, it wasn't that big a deal in 1988, and Ithaca was a bigger powerhouse then. I'd imagine you wouldn't have a big problem, although I'd suspect tickets may only be available at the gates. I'm not totally sure, since it's been awhile since we were hosting

with neither student body on campus, I would guess it would be empty....or pretty close to it.

Realistic will be there, if it falls that way.

[labart96]

When you just throw out the term weak in reference to the NEFC.... that is exactly what the NCAA feels about the East.
The entire east needs to get off it high horse and realize the nation has caught up.
The last eastern champion was IC in 91.. none of these teams from these "strong" conferences have really come close... yes the Rowan teams gave us a nice run.  RPI a few years back was nice but unsustained.
The St. John Fisher v MUC three years ago was a surprise.  Once the Mount really prepared for STJ Fish they crushed the cardinal.

The number one thing holding back the east is that most of the schools are private and massively expensive.  Since prop 91 ( no financial aid to special talents) the east has had a hard time.  

So yea, the Weak NEFC got in two but everyone else got beat.  RPI needed to beat Kings Point but got stung.

Odd year

mel, I don't thin it's the cost of the schools so much as the density of the schools.  Mount Union is a private school that will run you over $30 grand a year.  For example, in Worcester, Mass there are three schools all near each other (Becker, WPI, Worcester State) and a whole bunch close by.  That's a talent drain.  I don't know if that is the real problem, but it doesn't help those teams get better. 

Though I'm an NEFC fan I'm surprised that Curry got it.  More so because no other non-AQ team from the East got it.  By putting Mount Union in the East they're saying the East isn't even good enough to have their own #1 team.  If anything you would think that since Mount Union has to be the best team in the North that they should seed #1 out there and some other team could have been the #1 in the East, even from the North.  This is what happens when the NCAA is engineering what they want for the final four.

No way a kid looking at WPI is also looking at Worcester State.....I know what you are attempting to say, but this argument is miserably flawed.....

good point, but there is like 20 d3 private colleges in the state of ohio.  there are about 20  (if not 200) of those within 5 miles of each other off rt 128 just outside boston.

[union89]

Ok, so the 2 best teams in the East are Cortland and Ithaca this year (sorry 'Bart....I'm pulling for you).

The NEFC's 2 best teams play each.   If the NEFC can play ONE close, I think it's a win for the NEFC.  To win one would truely make a second huge step following the Curry win vs. Hartwick in '07.

To lose both big would make a statement the other way.

[Frank Rossi]

If any of you east guys are interested, you're more than welcome to join our OAC Playoff Pick-Em Contest. 

Here's a small taste to peek your interest:

EAST REGION

#8 RANDOLPH-MACON (+54.5) at #1 MOUNT UNION

#5 LYCOMING (+17.5) at #4 HOBART

#6 PLYMOUTH ST. (+30.5) at #3 CORTLAND ST.

#7 CURRY (+35.5) at #2 ITHACA

Give me every dog 'cept Randolph Duke

Hobart wins, but by 7... offense is banged up and needs to put together a big game... but might be tough to do in any playoff game.

[pg04]

There are going to be 7 games in the bracket.

My prediction is that only 2 have the possibility to be decided by 20 or less...

Hobart vs. Lycoming

And the eventual Second round Cortaca rematch. 

Real interesting 

[pg04]

I have posted a poll asking who you think the 3 East Region Game winners will be (I am giving MUC the victory). 

[DanPadavona]

If any of you east guys are interested, you're more than welcome to join our OAC Playoff Pick-Em Contest. 

Here's a small taste to peek your interest:

EAST REGION

#8 RANDOLPH-MACON (+54.5) at #1 MOUNT UNION

#5 LYCOMING (+17.5) at #4 HOBART

#6 PLYMOUTH ST. (+30.5) at #3 CORTLAND ST.

#7 CURRY (+35.5) at #2 ITHACA

No way Hobart crushes Lycoming, just no way.  Lycoming is a good team from a very solid, competitive conference.  Look at how close they played IC.  Honestly, I'm thinking Lycoming will win this game.

[labart96]

If any of you east guys are interested, you're more than welcome to join our OAC Playoff Pick-Em Contest. 

Here's a small taste to peek your interest:

EAST REGION

#8 RANDOLPH-MACON (+54.5) at #1 MOUNT UNION

#5 LYCOMING (+17.5) at #4 HOBART

#6 PLYMOUTH ST. (+30.5) at #3 CORTLAND ST.

#7 CURRY (+35.5) at #2 ITHACA

No way Hobart crushes Lycoming, just no way.  Lycoming is a good team from a very solid, competitive conference.  Look at how close they played IC.  Honestly, I'm thinking Lycoming will win this game.

agreed.  17+ is a ridiculous line on that game.  big difference between week 1 and now however.  will provide some stats re: bart-lyco later this week to explain.

regardless, this one will be decided by less than a td.