East Region Playoff Discussion

[theoriginalupstate]

"Harry, your hands are freezing"

[Frank Rossi]

Bombers - this comes up everytime someone plays Mount.  The fisher guys got riled up about the same thing before their game last year and again this season. 

What are they going to write?  Teams play their best against Mount and usually still lose.  Is it possible, yeah anything is.  Is it likely, no.  I don't know if you want them to make up something or have real analysis.  To me, thats real analysis since no one has stopped them recently.

If this was the late 80s, I imagine anyone analyzing it would have said the same thing about Dayton, Auagustana and sometimes IC.

Look, obviously, teams don't beat MUC, or even stay close, 90% of the time. I know that. But as you said, it's possible. So why not discuss the possibility? Obviously, it's going to be a talent level question most of the time, but even MUC guys admit this team has some weaknesses (for them at least). I wrote about a half dozen times in my original post that I know it's extremely unlikely, but there's always a possibility.

And as you said, other teams could have had that written about them as well, but I'd feel the same way if this were IC (IC's actually never been undefeated, so to ever write that about them would seem odd anyway) i'm not really upset. I don't think Ithaca's being "disrespected." I don't think they'll beat MUC either. But I'd like to know how they could. There's a difference. I even refered to it in my original post as something like: "What do they need to do to upset MUC?"

If you want to upset MUC you need to stop the running game without opening up the passing lanes.  You need to force at least three turnovers.  On offense you need a big, quick O line and a good running back to pound the ball down the field, and make no turnovers yourself.  Add an average passing game to keep Mounts D honest and you have a chance.  Piece of cake.

Almost sounds like Stagg Bowl '07... Hmmm. 

[rscl70]

Bombers - this comes up everytime someone plays Mount.  The fisher guys got riled up about the same thing before their game last year and again this season. 

What are they going to write?  Teams play their best against Mount and usually still lose.  Is it possible, yeah anything is.  Is it likely, no.  I don't know if you want them to make up something or have real analysis.  To me, thats real analysis since no one has stopped them recently.

If this was the late 80s, I imagine anyone analyzing it would have said the same thing about Dayton, Auagustana and sometimes IC.

Look, obviously, teams don't beat MUC, or even stay close, 90% of the time. I know that. But as you said, it's possible. So why not discuss the possibility? Obviously, it's going to be a talent level question most of the time, but even MUC guys admit this team has some weaknesses (for them at least). I wrote about a half dozen times in my original post that I know it's extremely unlikely, but there's always a possibility.

And as you said, other teams could have had that written about them as well, but I'd feel the same way if this were IC (IC's actually never been undefeated, so to ever write that about them would seem odd anyway) i'm not really upset. I don't think Ithaca's being "disrespected." I don't think they'll beat MUC either. But I'd like to know how they could. There's a difference. I even refered to it in my original post as something like: "What do they need to do to upset MUC?"

If you want to upset MUC you need to stop the running game without opening up the passing lanes.  You need to force at least three turnovers.  On offense you need a big, quick O line and a good running back to pound the ball down the field, and make no turnovers yourself.  Add an average passing game to keep Mounts D honest and you have a chance.  Piece of cake.

Almost sounds like Stagg Bowl '07... Hmmm. 

Thanks Frank - I knew I got the blueprint from somewhere.

[Bombers798891]

If we're not even going to discuss the possibility of someone in the bracket pulling off the upset, what's the point?

"So, you're telling me there's a chance!"



classic

['gro]

All this Ithaca/MUC talk makes gro say "Not so fast my friend"

Word on south hill is that Ithaca is trying to create their own version of Curry's purple drank in order to match the intensity and overall awesomeness of Dem Spicy Boyz... early trials have not gone well for the Bomber faithful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vFVnTMwt3w

[seventiesraider]

I'm looking forward to a Mount-Ithica game if it happens, far more than this "weaks" Randolph Macon game. It's almost a vote to go back to 28 teams and give the 1 seeds the week off.

[TheApprentice]

mind you all, if you're assuming MU/Ithaca will be a good game...

granted, it was week one, however, Lycoming lost to Ithaca 17-16 ... AT Ithaca. Just throwing that out there...

 

[theoriginalupstate]

I'm looking forward to a Mount-Ithica game if it happens, far more than this "weaks" Randolph Macon game. It's almost a vote to go back to 28 teams and give the 1 seeds the week off.

Ithica is not in the NCAA's...

[theoriginalupstate]

mind you all, if you're assuming MU/Ithaca will be a good game...

granted, it was week one, however, Lycoming lost to Ithaca 17-16 ... AT Ithaca. Just throwing that out there...

 

You said it yourself, it was week one...

[Frank Rossi]

I'm looking forward to a Mount-Ithica game if it happens, far more than this "weaks" Randolph Macon game. It's almost a vote to go back to 28 teams and give the 1 seeds the week off.

Ithica is not in the NCAA's...

Ithica plays this Saterday.  Get it right.

[XDragon59]

That's up to the guys on the field but we're calling them as we see them.

That's my question: What do the guys on the field need to do? How can they be sucessful?

As I said if you re-read my post, I know there's very little of a chance. No-one's saying you need to predict a loss if you don't see one. But to not even discuss what needs to happen for an upset to occur? To not even say, "Here's how Otterbein stuck with MUC for 20 minutes" or "Here's what Whitewater was able to do last season"? Something beyond just discarding the possibility of another team in the bracket doing anything as a pipe dream?

I think if it was Cortland or IC, both teams would have to play a mistake free game, no turnovers, run the ball and eat up clock.  I think it would be paramount that either team keep MUC's defense off the field by converting on 3rd down.  Defensively, bend and allow FGs instead of TD's.  It will require some very big plays on both sides of the ball.  I don't think we have to pray for a divine intervention, it is just a matter of shortening the game and keeping MUC to as few plays as possible.

[fisheralum91]

ithica----hmmm is that up near utaca?

[JQV]

mind you all, if you're assuming MU/Ithaca will be a good game...

granted, it was week one, however, Lycoming lost to Ithaca 17-16 ... AT Ithaca. Just throwing that out there...

 

I'll agree with you The Apprentice to some extent.  The Lyco game made me very nervous.  Lyco had been a scheduled cupcake for us for two or three years (I flew up for the first meeting, which happened to be homecoming, and was thoroughly disappointed).  After we needed that 4th Quarter comeback to beat you this year, I figured we were overrated and in for a long fall. 

But, I should point out, that if the teams meet again, the game would also be AT Ithaca.  Just FYI.

[JQV]

All this Ithaca/MUC talk makes gro say "Not so fast my friend"

Word on south hill is that Ithaca is trying to create their own version of Curry's purple drank in order to match the intensity and overall awesomeness of Dem Spicy Boyz... early trials have not gone well for the Bomber faithful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vFVnTMwt3w

+k Gro.

This made me harken back to my youth when Florida State was desperately trying to produce something equal to Gatorade.  FSU alums that coached us were always offering us 10K, or AllSport, or whatever.

Bleh.

[Bombers798891]

mind you all, if you're assuming MU/Ithaca will be a good game...

granted, it was week one, however, Lycoming lost to Ithaca 17-16 ... AT Ithaca. Just throwing that out there...

 

I'll agree with you The Apprentice to some extent.  The Lyco game made me very nervous.  Lyco had been a scheduled cupcake for us for two or three years (I flew up for the first meeting, which happened to be homecoming, and was thoroughly disappointed).  After we needed that 4th Quarter comeback to beat you this year, I figured we were overrated and in for a long fall. 

But, I should point out, that if the teams meet again, the game would also be AT Ithaca.  Just FYI.

Plus, Ithaca, in the last few years, is a team that starts a little slow and hits their stride midseason. They are playing their best football of the season right now, and I think they would handle Lycoming rather painlessly right now.