Should the Stagg Bowl find a better site or stay in Salem, Va.

[Ralph Turner]

Given the NCAA's seeming reluctance to send any team to Texas, the Texas bid seems doomed. 

Irony, Poignancy, Humor, Satire.  Those are the first four (polite) words that I could think of.

+1!

[section13raiderfan]

Arent there so few teams in D3 even close to Texas that their own teams have to fly to regular season games? Thats what a Trinity fan once told me. I say we move it to Vegas. Sure the game would be far away, but the airfare would always be relatively cheap. But seriously folks.....if you cant top Salem....dont move it. Facilities wise and organizational wise we in Ohio can compete with Salem. Weatherwise..........well......probably not.

[roocru]

I hinted at this earlier when I mentioned MAJOR cororate sponsors.  American Airlines is based in Dallas.  If corporate sponsorship included some real breaks in airfare, then that would not be an issue.

[ADL70]

Maybe they would contribute for an "American Airlines Texas Sub-regional"

[K-Mack]

Something tells me that the d3 powers within the NCAA have a huge east coast bias.  I dont see them putting a chamionship game in Texas anytime soon (or california for that matter)

I wouldn't call it a bias - that's just where the teams are!

I haven't actually counted, but I'd imagine something around 85% of d3 schools are east of the Mississippi (and if you add the St. Louis schools, Iowa and Minnesota, it's probably over 90%).

Right, but I think you could still call that a bias....

Yeah,
There are 16 schools west of the Rockies of 234 total ... add about 10 each in Iowa, Texas and Minnesota and 4 in Missouri, and there's your West "Coast."

Funny though, D3 has huge bases in the Northeast, mid-Atlantic and Midwest ... But Illinois, Ohio and Wisconsin (about 20 schools each) are far from "East Coast." I would never even refer to them as the "East."

It makes me wonder if the term "East Coast Bias" just sounds like something cool to say.

Time Zone bias might be a more legitimate beef, but in D3, the so-called East is where the schools are. And while you might be able to call that a "bias" if you wanted to nitpick, the inference in the word "bias" is that it's somehow unfair, but it doesn't seem to be.

Hey, MLB has a team in Canada. Maybe we should make sure Medicine Hat gets the World Series every once in a while!

[Ron Boerger]

I hinted at this earlier when I mentioned MAJOR cororate sponsors.  American Airlines is based in Dallas.  If corporate sponsorship included some real breaks in airfare, then that would not be an issue.

Umm, what would be in it for AA?  They are already running their planes at record high occupancy rates and able to raise their fares accordingly.  Not like they'd get a huge amount of PR from being the Official Sponsor of the Division III Championship, either.  Nice dream, tho, but AA makes their money selling last-second fares which cost MORE, not less. 

sec13raider - what that Trinity fan told you only applied to TU, which plays in a conference which at the time had no other Texas-based FB schools.  The ASC's Texas FB schools all bus back and forth for games. 

[K-Mack]

By the way,
Lots more Day-after-the-Stagg-Bowl love here on the Daily Dose.

In case anyone feels like this thread isn't covering all of the bases.  

[allsky7]

I hinted at this earlier when I mentioned MAJOR cororate sponsors.  American Airlines is based in Dallas.  If corporate sponsorship included some real breaks in airfare, then that would not be an issue.

Umm, what would be in it for AA?  They are already running their planes at record high occupancy rates and able to raise their fares accordingly.  Not like they'd get a huge amount of PR from being the Official Sponsor of the Division III Championship, either.  Nice dream, tho, but AA makes their money selling last-second fares which cost MORE, not less. 

sec13raider - what that Trinity fan told you only applied to TU, which plays in a conference which at the time had no other Texas-based FB schools.  The ASC's Texas FB schools all bus back and forth for games. 

     That was my thought too Ron. What would AA get in return for their $ spent? Anybody know what kind of TV ratings the Stagg Bowl generally gets?
     Hey....just had a great idea.  Perhaps Mount Union should pony up some sponsorship $!!! 

[Jonny Utah]

Something tells me that the d3 powers within the NCAA have a huge east coast bias.  I dont see them putting a chamionship game in Texas anytime soon (or california for that matter)

I wouldn't call it a bias - that's just where the teams are!

I haven't actually counted, but I'd imagine something around 85% of d3 schools are east of the Mississippi (and if you add the St. Louis schools, Iowa and Minnesota, it's probably over 90%).

Right, but I think you could still call that a bias....

Yeah,
There are 16 schools west of the Rockies of 234 total ... add about 10 each in Iowa, Texas and Minnesota and 4 in Missouri, and there's your West "Coast."

Funny though, D3 has huge bases in the Northeast, mid-Atlantic and Midwest ... But Illinois, Ohio and Wisconsin (about 20 schools each) are far from "East Coast." I would never even refer to them as the "East."

It makes me wonder if the term "East Coast Bias" just sounds like something cool to say.

Time Zone bias might be a more legitimate beef, but in D3, the so-called East is where the schools are. And while you might be able to call that a "bias" if you wanted to nitpick, the inference in the word "bias" is that it's somehow unfair, but it doesn't seem to be.

Hey, MLB has a team in Canada. Maybe we should make sure Medicine Hat gets the World Series every once in a while!

Yea I also kind of got the impression that the higher ups in the NCAA came from eastern liberal arts schools more often than not.

[section13raiderfan]

I hinted at this earlier when I mentioned MAJOR cororate sponsors.  American Airlines is based in Dallas.  If corporate sponsorship included some real breaks in airfare, then that would not be an issue.

Umm, what would be in it for AA?  They are already running their planes at record high occupancy rates and able to raise their fares accordingly.  Not like they'd get a huge amount of PR from being the Official Sponsor of the Division III Championship, either.  Nice dream, tho, but AA makes their money selling last-second fares which cost MORE, not less. 

sec13raider - what that Trinity fan told you only applied to TU, which plays in a conference which at the time had no other Texas-based FB schools.  The ASC's Texas FB schools all bus back and forth for games. 

     That was my thought too Ron. What would AA get in return for their $ spent? Anybody know what kind of TV ratings the Stagg Bowl generally gets?
     Hey....just had a great idea.  Perhaps Mount Union should pony up some sponsorship $!!! 

Mount Union sells a highlight tape of each season when its all over with. That has to bring in a zillion buckeroos alone!
Then American airlines could paint the MUC purple bird mascot on the tails of their planes. Theres another gazillion!
Then there is the Larry Kehres tell all autobiography!   Unprecedented riches!
Marketing is where its at! Im dizzy with the possibilities.

[K-Mack]

Another good "I love the Stagg Bowl" post from the blog, that might get lost in the long, drawn out arguing:

GBill$ Says:
The 20th of December, 2006 at 6:46 pm

After having attended the Stagg Bowl 9 (2005) years after I stopped playing, I still was amazed by the entire Stagg Bowl scene. Years after playing, all I could think about was how cool/fun/amazing it would have been to have played in that game.

That being said, I think it would be a great idea for college coaches to strongly encourage their players to attend the Stagg Bowl. You could even go as far as to raise funds for a bus ride out there. But, at the very least it's just an good, old fashioned road trip. I understand there are issues with all of my suggestions (West Coast players driving to the Stagg Bowl, limited funds for both students and institutions, etc.).

However, I can't imagine that any current player would not be totally inspired by being there. Not only by the scene, but, by the level of football that is played in that bowl. In other words, seeing what it takes.

And those guys still have a chance to train, improve, and most importanly....play.

At the very least, go to an in-region playoff game. I remember seeing MUC beat UW-Lacrosse at Camp Randall (UW-Madison) AFTER my senior season. My team and I could have benefitted greatly from going to a playoff game before that, but, I am not going to go all woulda/coulda/shoulda on you.

And on a side note, that game is why I have never and never will hate on MUC. They had a ton of fans in the stands, 50 (maybe older) year old guys doing push-ups with the cheerleaders, and after the game the players shook hands and then all the MUC players went and jumped in a huge snowbank on the sidelines. And it wasn't even a "in your face" deal. They were just enjoying the moment.

Now, that's what I call understanding the game.

[Senor RedTackle]

Yea I also kind of got the impression that the higher ups in the NCAA came from eastern liberal arts schools more often than not.

Myles Brand...President of the NCAA.....RPI grad.   Eastern yes. Liberal Arts?....um, no

[Jonny Utah]

Yea I also kind of got the impression that the higher ups in the NCAA came from eastern liberal arts schools more often than not.

Myles Brand...President of the NCAA.....RPI grad.   Eastern yes. Liberal Arts?....um, no

what was his major....

[K-Mack]

Interesting blog post by Pat and subsequent discussion, furthering this topic.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

I like it in Salem VA.  It is closer to where I am and I will get to see some good d3 football. 

If I were to put it anywhere I would put it in Raven's Stadium.  I know there will never be 72,000 fans there, but the stadium has played host to many other sporting events that many might not consider "major".  Including state championships in football.  The college and high school lacrosse championships.  Let's not forget the annual Turkey Bowl between Calvert High School and Loyola High School and the Turkey Bowl of City vs Poly.

The first game mentioned is an 87 year tradition.

The second one I am going to assume is a 117 game tradition considering Poly leads the series 58-53-6.

So I say why not.  I guess that means John Hopkins would be the host.