Should the Stagg Bowl find a better site or stay in Salem, Va.

[skunks_sidekick]

Just throwing this out here: How about Selby Stadium at OWU? Close enough to Columbus, historic and can hold 9,000 and has a large press box.

If you are going to host it in OH, might as well use Fawcett Stadium in Canton. 

The last time this topic got hot and bothered someone promised that Fawcett at Canton was going to be bidding. I guess that fell through.

I posted that on this topic quite a while ago (going on two years maybe?).  Multiple issues arose that prevented the SCVCB to make a bid.

First, the primary driving force within the Visitors & Convention bureau left the organization.  The replacement has been much less interested in bidding on the game.
Second, the urgency that Stark County was feeling with the loss of the Ohio HS football championships has dissipated due to the fact that it looks like said championships will only reside in Columbus for two years, and will have a very good chance to be back in Stark County after that.
Third, some of the other community "powers that be" that were pushing them to make a bid on the game have fallen by the wayside in their vigor to procure the game.

That's all I got!

[jknezek]

I posted that on this topic quite a while ago (going on two years maybe?).  Multiple issues arose that prevented the SCVCB to make a bid.

First, the primary driving force within the Visitors & Convention bureau left the organization.  The replacement has been much less interested in bidding on the game.
Second, the urgency that Stark County was feeling with the loss of the Ohio HS football championships has dissipated due to the fact that it looks like said championships will only reside in Columbus for two years, and will have a very good chance to be back in Stark County after that.
Third, some of the other community "powers that be" that were pushing them to make a bid on the game have fallen by the wayside in their vigor to procure the game.

That's all I got!

All I can say is that has to be a big plus for Salem. As the example above shows, it's hard to get people to bid on these games, to keep the excitement, to put on a good show, and to keeep that kind of continuity. Salem may not be perfect, but it has shown the ability, the desire, and steadiness to do a good game experience come rain, snow, sleet or hail. Not as easy as simply having the stadium and saying "come play here!".

[wesleydad]

Just throwing this out here: How about Selby Stadium at OWU? Close enough to Columbus, historic and can hold 9,000 and has a large press box.

If you are going to host it in OH, might as well use Fawcett Stadium in Canton. 

The last time this topic got hot and bothered someone promised that Fawcett at Canton was going to be bidding. I guess that fell through.

I posted that on this topic quite a while ago (going on two years maybe?).  Multiple issues arose that prevented the SCVCB to make a bid.

First, the primary driving force within the Visitors & Convention bureau left the organization.  The replacement has been much less interested in bidding on the game.
Second, the urgency that Stark County was feeling with the loss of the Ohio HS football championships has dissipated due to the fact that it looks like said championships will only reside in Columbus for two years, and will have a very good chance to be back in Stark County after that.
Third, some of the other community "powers that be" that were pushing them to make a bid on the game have fallen by the wayside in their vigor to procure the game.

That's all I got!

so in other words, why not leave it in the city that wants it and has improved the venue almost every year I have gone.  It is easy to get to, drivable for most of us that are interested in going even if we dont have a team in the game.  I am well aware of other places that have better weather and are nicer to hang out in that may be interested, but I think it might lose some atmosphere, pregame, if it moves.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Just throwing this out here: How about Selby Stadium at OWU? Close enough to Columbus, historic and can hold 9,000 and has a large press box.

If you are going to host it in OH, might as well use Fawcett Stadium in Canton. 

The last time this topic got hot and bothered someone promised that Fawcett at Canton was going to be bidding. I guess that fell through.

I posted that on this topic quite a while ago (going on two years maybe?).  Multiple issues arose that prevented the SCVCB to make a bid.

First, the primary driving force within the Visitors & Convention bureau left the organization.  The replacement has been much less interested in bidding on the game.
Second, the urgency that Stark County was feeling with the loss of the Ohio HS football championships has dissipated due to the fact that it looks like said championships will only reside in Columbus for two years, and will have a very good chance to be back in Stark County after that.
Third, some of the other community "powers that be" that were pushing them to make a bid on the game have fallen by the wayside in their vigor to procure the game.

That's all I got!

so in other words, why not leave it in the city that wants it and has improved the venue almost every year I have gone.  It is easy to get to, drivable for most of us that are interested in going even if we dont have a team in the game.  I am well aware of other places that have better weather and are nicer to hang out in that may be interested, but I think it might lose some atmosphere, pregame, if it moves.

I like it in Salem.  Closer to me than Canton. 

[AO]

so in other words, why not leave it in the city that wants it and has improved the venue almost every year I have gone.  It is easy to get to, drivable for most of us that are interested in going even if we dont have a team in the game.  I am well aware of other places that have better weather and are nicer to hang out in that may be interested, but I think it might lose some atmosphere, pregame, if it moves.

Drivable?  The South will not rise again.  The West is here to stay.  If you're not going to make it drivable for the West teams that make it to the title game, at least let move the game somewhere easier to fly to.  Maybe someplace warm.  Maybe in a Dome.

[jknezek]

so in other words, why not leave it in the city that wants it and has improved the venue almost every year I have gone.  It is easy to get to, drivable for most of us that are interested in going even if we dont have a team in the game.  I am well aware of other places that have better weather and are nicer to hang out in that may be interested, but I think it might lose some atmosphere, pregame, if it moves.

Drivable?  The South will not rise again.  The West is here to stay.  If you're not going to make it drivable for the West teams that make it to title game, at least let move the game somewhere easier to fly to.  Maybe someplace warm.  Maybe in a Dome.

No one out west bid that I'm aware of. I think Bradenton and someplace in Texas were listed. Bradenton is about an hour or so south of Tampa airport. Not sure exactly where in Texas they were talking, but looking at the weather forecast for UMHB's game this week, that is no guarantee of good weather. I guess a dome would guarantee the weather, but if you don't fill a dome, it loses all atmosphere as the space feels empty and sterile.

There are lots of places it could be played, but those places need to bid and demonstrate they can do better or be better than Salem. Backed by ING Academy, I'm assuming Bradenton will be a real competitor. But it will definitely eliminate the casual, within driving distance, D3 fan that seems like a good proportion of those in Salem every year. I guess only holding the game down there for a few years would determine if it is a good trade off.

I'm not a huge proponent of Salem, but I do appreciate that they have done right by the game for so many years. It would be big shoes for someone else to fill for a niche event.

[HScoach]

As long as my team is in it and the radio station picks up the plane ticket and misc expenses, I could care less where it is.....

[DGPugh]

I have the least football venue knowledge of anyone in this discussion, but being dumb does not seem to stop me from running my...uh... fingers on the keyboard

The folk at Salem have done a better job each time i have been to the Stagg, it is good, homey, and improves woith each visit

i have been to the NCAA D2 champ game in Florence Alabama, the D1aa when it was in Chatanooga, Tn and the NAIA in Rome Ga.......by far the best fun, nicest folk, and most professional crowd was in Salem.

Where else can u go to see a NCAA championship football game, go to a gun show, see the Shenandoah Valley, and meet the folk you read (occasioanlly write to) on this list.

The Stagg in Salem has the best food, albiet some of it hauled in by the ODAK folk, best atmosphere of any place i been....

And AO... the south Has risen again

respectfully leave it in Va
keep the faith 

[wesleydad]

so in other words, why not leave it in the city that wants it and has improved the venue almost every year I have gone.  It is easy to get to, drivable for most of us that are interested in going even if we dont have a team in the game.  I am well aware of other places that have better weather and are nicer to hang out in that may be interested, but I think it might lose some atmosphere, pregame, if it moves.

Drivable?  The South will not rise again.  The West is here to stay.  If you're not going to make it drivable for the West teams that make it to the title game, at least let move the game somewhere easier to fly to.  Maybe someplace warm.  Maybe in a Dome.

AO, if your team is not in it would you go to it?  if not then it does not matter where it is.  There are many of us who have attended that do not have a team in the game and have had great times there.  If it is moved to Fla or Tx or out west than I would figure most of us do not go.  Now I am sure we may be replaced by locals where ever it is moved to, but Salem does a great job with the game and have made improvements each year I have been there.  They like the game and the locals support it.  I say leave it where it is so that most fans of D3 football who want to attend may do so without going broke.

[AO]

so in other words, why not leave it in the city that wants it and has improved the venue almost every year I have gone.  It is easy to get to, drivable for most of us that are interested in going even if we dont have a team in the game.  I am well aware of other places that have better weather and are nicer to hang out in that may be interested, but I think it might lose some atmosphere, pregame, if it moves.

Drivable?  The South will not rise again.  The West is here to stay.  If you're not going to make it drivable for the West teams that make it to the title game, at least let move the game somewhere easier to fly to.  Maybe someplace warm.  Maybe in a Dome.

AO, if your team is not in it would you go to it?  if not then it does not matter where it is.  There are many of us who have attended that do not have a team in the game and have had great times there.  If it is moved to Fla or Tx or out west than I would figure most of us do not go.  Now I am sure we may be replaced by locals where ever it is moved to, but Salem does a great job with the game and have made improvements each year I have been there.  They like the game and the locals support it.  I say leave it where it is so that most fans of D3 football who want to attend may do so without going broke.

Based upon the higher attendance in the MidWest I'd think there would be more neutral fans attending the Stagg in Ohio, Illinois or Minnesota.  It's an event deserving of being showcased across the nation.

[Ralph Turner]

so in other words, why not leave it in the city that wants it and has improved the venue almost every year I have gone.  It is easy to get to, drivable for most of us that are interested in going even if we dont have a team in the game.  I am well aware of other places that have better weather and are nicer to hang out in that may be interested, but I think it might lose some atmosphere, pregame, if it moves.

Drivable?  The South will not rise again.  The West is here to stay.  If you're not going to make it drivable for the West teams that make it to the title game, at least let move the game somewhere easier to fly to.  Maybe someplace warm.  Maybe in a Dome.

AO, if your team is not in it would you go to it?  if not then it does not matter where it is.  There are many of us who have attended that do not have a team in the game and have had great times there.  If it is moved to Fla or Tx or out west than I would figure most of us do not go.  Now I am sure we may be replaced by locals where ever it is moved to, but Salem does a great job with the game and have made improvements each year I have been there.  They like the game and the locals support it.  I say leave it where it is so that most fans of D3 football who want to attend may do so without going broke.

Based upon the higher attendance in the MidWest I'd think there would be more neutral fans attending the Stagg in Ohio, Illinois or Minnesota.  It's an event deserving of being showcased across the nation.

We all agree. Now what we need is some local community in one of those states to step forward and top the effort that Salem VA has put forward.

[Pat Coleman]

I would encourage UMHB to put together a bid and see what happens.

[Teamski]

Just throwing this out here: How about Selby Stadium at OWU? Close enough to Columbus, historic and can hold 9,000 and has a large press box.

If you are going to host it in OH, might as well use Fawcett Stadium in Canton. 

Funny thing about that field is that a lot of team radios can't reach the box from across the field.  They are too far.  Wesley's wasn't even close when they played there several years ago.  The assistants had to sit in the stands!

-Ski

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Just throwing this out here: How about Selby Stadium at OWU? Close enough to Columbus, historic and can hold 9,000 and has a large press box.

If you are going to host it in OH, might as well use Fawcett Stadium in Canton. 

Funny thing about that field is that a lot of team radios can't reach the box from across the field.  They are too far.  Wesley's wasn't even close when they played there several years ago.  The assistants had to sit in the stands!

-Ski

Interesting. Who did Wesley play in Fawcett?  Malone or Walsh maybe?

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Just throwing this out here: How about Selby Stadium at OWU? Close enough to Columbus, historic and can hold 9,000 and has a large press box.

If you are going to host it in OH, might as well use Fawcett Stadium in Canton. 

Funny thing about that field is that a lot of team radios can't reach the box from across the field.  They are too far.  Wesley's wasn't even close when they played there several years ago.  The assistants had to sit in the stands!

-Ski

Interesting. Who did Wesley play in Fawcett?  Malone or Walsh maybe?

Perhaps Mount Union should have been more gracious hosts and given their guests (the visiting team) the better accommodations.

I thought that he was being more polite than he needed to be.   

Ralph, I believe Ski was talking about playing Walsh at Fawcett in 2011, not at Mt. Union.

The Press Box at Mt. Union is on the Visitor Sidelines, so I don't think headset communications would be an issue there.