Should the Stagg Bowl find a better site or stay in Salem, Va.

[JT]

JU, obviously none of these guys have heard of the mancation.  In college, you and your buddys went on road trips. You cram 5-6 guys in a honda accord, drive off to either spring break or another friends college, eat cheap, drink cheaper, and usually sleep on a floor or in a recliner.

Now that you're older, wiser, and hopefully more financially stable... you go on the mancation. You call your buddies, pick a desination (Vegas, Mardi Gras, Florida), and you go banana's... making sure to send text messages to significant others to tell them that you are "behaving". Now the whole point of this post.

Mancation in Salem... all right.
Mancation in Tampa, FL... AIGHT!!!

Or Stagg Bowl in Vegas... yeah that would AIGHT too.  Even has the right name.... STAGG!!!  Cheap packages to Vegas abound and the food is good and cheap. 

[Gray Fox]

There is an article on USA today on the Stagg Bowl

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2006-12-13-focus-salem_x.htm

It says Coppell, Texas is bidding for future games.

[finsleft]

Gro, JT - count me in for a round of golf whenever we get to see the Stagg at a temperate (climate only) location. I'd be there this year for the game if there was more to offer than planes, buses and 2 star hotels.

As I like to say, the worst excuse for doing something a certain way is "we've always done it this way."

[Pat Coleman]

Gro, JT - count me in for a round of golf whenever we get to see the Stagg at a temperate (climate only) location. I'd be there this year for the game if there was more to offer than planes, buses and 2 star hotels.

As I like to say, the worst excuse for doing something a certain way is "we've always done it this way."

People were golfing here today. Sorry you missed it.

[finsleft]

Gro, JT - count me in for a round of golf whenever we get to see the Stagg at a temperate (climate only) location. I'd be there this year for the game if there was more to offer than planes, buses and 2 star hotels.

As I like to say, the worst excuse for doing something a certain way is "we've always done it this way."

People were golfing here today. Sorry you missed it.

Wow, once every 10 years. That's a lot of golf bag-schlepping for one round of golf.

77 degrees in Coppell, TX today. 80 and sunny tomorrow. 8) 8) 8)

[JT]

$279 to DFW from Newark, NJ leaving Friday and coming back Sunday.

[finsleft]

$279 to DFW from Newark, NJ leaving Friday and coming back Sunday.

3 pages of $179 fares on all major carriers to DFW from MSP for same dates. Call ahead for a tee time and pick your flight accordingly. 8)

[Pat Coleman]

We got it -- you still don't like the Stagg Bowl in Salem. Hard to tell.

Meanwhile, you just want to shut out the D-III fans who can drive to Salem?

[allsky7]

$279 to DFW from Newark, NJ leaving Friday and coming back Sunday.

3 pages of $179 fares on all major carriers to DFW from MSP for same dates. Call ahead for a tee time and pick your flight accordingly. 8)

     Hey fins...what do you need the Stagg Bowl for anyway? Sounds like your just in it for the golf. Hey, I have a great idea . You can take the cheap flight to DFW...get in 18 before 3 and still catch the Stagg Bowl on ESPN.   

[JT]

We got it -- you still don't like the Stagg Bowl in Salem. Hard to tell.

Meanwhile, you just want to shut out the D-III fans who can drive to Salem?

I'm cool with Salem.  But unless you live within a couple of hours, you can't justify going unless your team is playing.

['gro]

We got it -- you still don't like the Stagg Bowl in Salem. Hard to tell.

Meanwhile, you just want to shut out the D-III fans who can drive to Salem?

They can drive... to the airport.   zing!

[JT]

Go for Vegas.... they have more $$$ than the NCAA's.  So dropping some coin on sponsoring a football game would be easy.  You'd get the LL planning mancations to Vegas in June.... couples (Me) planning to head out. Golf, gambling, shopping etc.,

How do you explain Salem, VA  to a significant other? 

She: What's there to do?

Me: Not much.  Wanna go to a bonfire?

[K-Mack]

From the Dose:

uwwWHOOT Says:
The 14th of December, 2006 at 9:45 pm

Interesting that the USA Today article talks about the possibility of Salem losing out to Coppell, TX in future years. It is a shame because I really enjoyed my first trip there last year and will definately be enjoying this weekend. Coppell is just typical suburban DFW. Easy to get to but no charm. It looks like local attendance is an issue though.

D3Keith Says:
The 14th of December, 2006 at 9:50 pm

Yeah,
it said Coppell put in a bid. Which is nice and all ... but I mean, Muskingum technically has a chance each time it lines up against Mount Union too.

I don't have any knowledge of the situation, but Coppell might either have to guarantee more cash to the NCAA or do something really spectacular to lure the game from Salem. As the story also noted, small-school championships are getting rather comfortable there.

[K-Mack]

Im still pushing for the 1-aa/2/3 game but even without three games you could always thrown in a coaches conference/clinic or some sort of NFL and college combine or something.  Maybe even the NCAA could hold football type leadership conferences or any of that other crap they do.  Then they can force people to work those games at the same time....

Good idea.

Maybe that's why the D3 coaches meet every year in Salem and D3 coaches and players host a clinic (some years) for kids on the morning of the Stagg Bowl.

I still don't see more than a passing crossover interest in D2 and I-AA bowls ... How many of you knew it was UMass and Appy State, and another rematch, Grand Valley and NW Missouri State?

K-Mack

D3 football coaches have gone and will go to the stagg bowl no matter where it is, thats a given.

And maybe Im just the only one who loves to watch all 1-AA games and d2 games when their championships are on TV.  Ive watched every Umass game in the playoffs (Im from Mass), and I also knew all about Grand Valley State (a powerhouse d2 team).

Put it in Florida in December and Im goin.....

I don't think you're the only one. I'd watch, and I know a lot of people on this board would watch. We had the I-AA game on in the Stagg Bowl hospitality room last year, watching with a whole bunch of D3 coaches and administrators.

My point is I think people like us are exceptions to the rule. I don't think there are great numbers of people with great interest in multiple divisions ... and even those of us that look in on II once or twice a year aren't necessarily die-hards.

Anyway, it's just my opinion. I'm not sure it could hurt attendance if they were all in the same place, and I bet ESPN would be fine sending one TV setup out to do three games (although they might still need multiple crews) ... I just don't know if it would be much of an attendance boon.

If you took Deer Hunter, Duck Hunter and Quail Hunter and made them into one magazine, you still have a niche publication ... you know what I'm sayin?

[Pat Coleman]

I'm cool with Salem.  But unless you live within a couple of hours, you can't justify going unless your team is playing.

Lots of people seem to be able to do so regardless.