Should the Stagg Bowl find a better site or stay in Salem, Va.

retagent · December 13, 2011, 09:54:40 AM

Just for the record, many municipalities use garbage trucks with plows for snow removal. Not that uncommon.

Pat Coleman · December 13, 2011, 10:38:12 AM

Quote from: K-Mack on December 13, 2011, 02:28:05 AM
Quote from: PurpleSuit on December 13, 2011, 12:23:39 AM
At the end of the day, I guess we will see what happens. But Salem/Roanoke is not the DIII paradise that many on the boards claim that it is.

Depends how you define paradise. Mostly people on our boards and who go to Salem appreciate the effort that is put in to making the Stagg Bowl feel like the big game in town and making the players feel like they're at home.

None of the intelligent posts I read say that another city can't replicate that, but that the volunteer work and the ground-level effort is a starting point before outbidding Salem.

The discussion was a little less minds-made-up and hyperbole-filled when skunks_sidekick introduced the Canton idea several pages back.

Would be interesting to see what they could do with it. Let's see if they bid.

Re-introduced, I believe.

runk · December 13, 2011, 06:21:17 PM

I too have experienced some pretty bad weather in Salem. I was in Bradenton ~92 (Dayton/Ithica) if I remember, great weather but the atmosphere was hardly that of a national championship. Areas with lots of tourist attractions don't need to promote the events and it shows. Salem has done a wonderful job of preparing and promoting the game. The stands aren't even filled at mount stadium for a national semifinal game(what a shame), What makes people think they will fill Fawcett stadium 25 minutes away?

skunks_sidekick · December 14, 2011, 08:15:23 AM

Quote from: runk on December 13, 2011, 06:21:17 PM
I too have experienced some pretty bad weather in Salem. I was in Bradenton ~92 (Dayton/Ithica) if I remember, great weather but the atmosphere was hardly that of a national championship. Areas with lots of tourist attractions don't need to promote the events and it shows. Salem has done a wonderful job of preparing and promoting the game. The stands aren't even filled at mount stadium for a national semifinal game(what a shame), What makes people think they will fill Fawcett stadium 25 minutes away?

Runk....believe it or not, this effort is not based upon "let's move the game closer to Mount Union". It's more about the fact that the odds dictate that the two teams playing in the Stagg will be much closer to Canton, OH, than to Salem, VA. The only time I can think of in recent years where that was not the case would have been in 2004 (MHB/Linfield).

runk · December 14, 2011, 10:55:21 AM

I wasn't suggesting it was a move to benefit Mount fans (and I am one). I think Salem does a great job. lots goes on that many don't consider, things during the week for players. It's not just about game day. I'm not saying Canton wouldn't do a good job, I just know Salem does. now bring it friday and surprise some people with number 11....ROLL RAIDERS ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pat Coleman · December 15, 2011, 11:29:13 AM

Beautiful day in Salem today. Hope it holds for tomorrow.

Ralph Turner · December 15, 2011, 12:09:53 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 15, 2011, 11:29:13 AM
Beautiful day in Salem today. Hope it holds for tomorrow.

The cold front that is causing the showers that started in South Texas thru east Texas, Arkansas, up the Ohio Valley and into New England may clear out in 36 hours. That should leave clear skies.

skunks_sidekick · December 15, 2011, 12:19:50 PM

Today it's rainy, windy, and warm in Canton, OH. (currently 57)

Ralph Turner · December 15, 2011, 02:13:28 PM

Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 15, 2011, 12:19:50 PM
Today it's rainy, windy, and warm in Canton, OH. (currently 57)

You are getting the same weather system that we are in east Texas. It is moving eastward.

AO · December 15, 2011, 03:35:03 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 15, 2011, 12:09:53 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 15, 2011, 11:29:13 AM
Beautiful day in Salem today. Hope it holds for tomorrow.
The cold front that is causing the showers that started in South Texas thru east Texas, Arkansas, up the Ohio Valley and into New England may clear out in 36 hours. That should leave clear skies.

Which would be great if the game were being played on saturday. Time to move the game to Minnesota. The weather has gotten better every weekend of the playoffs in our sunshine state.

skunks_sidekick · December 16, 2011, 09:17:42 AM

Gametime temps in Canton should be around 30-32.

No rain or snow.

Slight wind (10 mph or less).

PERFECT weather for football!

frank uible · December 16, 2011, 06:02:42 PM

Perfect for good old-time football, but the typical modern fan doesn't like good old-time football very much, or why would there be domed stadia, luxury boxes, etc.

smedindy · December 16, 2011, 07:07:52 PM

Frank,

There's a difference between the football fan and the empty suit that wants to sit in the luxury boxes. Football fans will sit outside in the elements.

frank uible · December 17, 2011, 01:34:27 AM

Irrespective of one's definition of "fan", actual attendance in an open stadium declines radically with rare exception when the weather gets sufficiently nasty.

skunks_sidekick · December 17, 2011, 09:25:00 AM

My point on the OAC board about the weather in Salem is that weather should NOT be part of the criteria in the selection/bid decision regarding location. The weather has been bad in almost every Stagg.

Hopefully the Stark County CVB folks down at the game were able to glean some good information in regards to putting together their bid.