Should the Stagg Bowl find a better site or stay in Salem, Va.

Started by K-Mack, November 27, 2006, 01:14:17 AM

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frank uible

Weather can be a major factor in attendance; in certain not infrequently occurring years the mid-December weather in Canton will be significantly worse than in Salem; whether and to what extent attendance should be a factor in selecting a site is a further question.

wesleydad

weather is like the lottery, you never know when you will win or lose.  Thursday, sunny and nice, Friday, rain messes up tailgating but not the game, Saurday, sunny and nice.  In the end, the game was not efected by the weather, only us tailgaters had to figure out how to stay dry and keep the food dry.

K-Mack

Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 17, 2011, 09:25:00 AM
My point on the OAC board about the weather in Salem is that weather should NOT be part of the criteria in the selection/bid decision regarding location. The weather has been bad in almost every Stagg. 

Hopefully the Stark County CVB folks down at the game were able to glean some good information in regards to putting together their bid.

Interesting you say this because a few pages back you were the one bringing up the weather and how it's not that different in Canton.

Weather is uncontrollable. It won't be a factor in the bid. For a place besides Salem to get it, they will have to match the effort that is put into the events surrounding the game, as noted in the post by Runk, both by support staff, city employees and volunteers, etc.

Canton, like Salem, is big enough to possibly do that and small enough to give it the attention it deserves. It's a good match for the game, size-wise.

The one thing I noticed this year is Salem isn't resting on its laurels. They added plenty of touches this year -- some minor, but things they don't have to do but spend the money on, including new banners at the stadium, fireworks and balloons being released before kickoff, billboards in the city promoting the night kickoff, promotional ads on the tables at local restaurants, the interview and video portions of the Gagliardi Trophy ceremony and pregame banquest, the video board (added a few years ago but rented for each Stagg), etc.

Take that for what you will. I think it impresses the folks who make the decisions, that Salem is always trying to improve. And at worst case they know Salem can pull it off, which makes them comfortable ... and I think the people who make that decision have to consider both the top end and the bottom end.
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frank uible

Those who believe that Canton should be the spot could evidence their good faith by each commiting to buy a block of tickets to the event.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on December 04, 2006, 07:22:30 AM
Im for putting the game in Miami or Tampa and having the 1-AA (or division formally known as 1-AA), d2 and d3 game at the same site.  Id even consider that an annual trip if you through some clinics in down there. 

Fact is Im not going to Salem unless Ithacas playing, but I would definitly consider Florida.

I stand by my thoughts a few years ago on this one.

frank uible

I've been to Salem in March twice and to southeast Florida many times during summer, fall, winter and spring. I prefer Salem in March.

ADL70

This was the only board I could find to post this.

ESPU has re-broadcast of 2012 Stagg Bowl tomorrow at 7pm EDT.
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Quote from: ADL70 on July 30, 2013, 07:16:47 PM
This was the only board I could find to post this.

ESPU has re-broadcast of 2012 Stagg Bowl tomorrow at 7pm EDT.

Saw that as well. DII game on now, but that's just not gettin' it done.
Ready for the games to begin and see how the year plays out.

As for this board is concerned...I've been to the last 2 Stagg Bowls and I think Salem is a fine place to hold the event. Cold, yes. (I think the guys from OH and MN can handle it.) But TONS of D3 fans there..lost count at 35 different college hoodies/jackets/caps. Always fine people working the event as well.
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mattvsmith

Thanks for the tip about the Stagg Bowl rebroadcast. 

NCF

YES-somewhere warm in Texas or Florida (maybe even the new UMHB stadium) Double the # of teams in the play-offs and schedule  the game in between Christmas and New Years. The championship would be more exciting than the majority of the "bowl games" on during that time and would be a great reason to take a winter vacation!
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HScoach

As much as I'd like the Stagg Bowl played in a warm weather setting, the vast majority of D3 schools aren't within driving distance of Texas, or Florida, etc.  The location in Virginia is fine. 
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Quote from: HScoach on July 31, 2013, 05:38:26 PM
As much as I'd like the Stagg Bowl played in a warm weather setting, the vast majority of D3 schools aren't within driving distance of Texas, or Florida, etc.  The location in Virginia is fine.
That's because you guys can drive there with your eyes closed ;D I'd have to fly to Virginia and the cost of a plane ticket is Staggering :o ;D
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Quote from: NCF on July 31, 2013, 07:23:54 PM
Quote from: HScoach on July 31, 2013, 05:38:26 PM
As much as I'd like the Stagg Bowl played in a warm weather setting, the vast majority of D3 schools aren't within driving distance of Texas, or Florida, etc.  The location in Virginia is fine.
That's because you guys can drive there with your eyes closed ;D I'd have to fly to Virginia and the cost of a plane ticket is Staggering :o ;D

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Scots13

Sitting here watching the ESPNU rebroadcast of the game, I'm reminded of Coach Kelchner's (Christopher Newport) remarks at the USAC Media Day on Monday about the size, speed, and physical play of Mt. Union (waxed in the first round).  He said that he coached in Division 1, William and Mary I believe, and last year's Mt. Union team could have beaten many D1 teams.  Being at the Stagg Bowl last year and being able to rewind plays and study the team more critically, I'd say he's right. All I can say is WOW.
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wally_wabash

I think Salem is probably fine.  If they were going to move, they should move it to a city and maybe get it lined up with the D-II game...sort of like what they did with the men's basketball championships last season.  Part of what made that work was having the backdrop of the Final Four, so I'm not sure how it would translate to football.  Anyway, a city that has some D-III in the area and would be a decent destination for fans would be DC.  Maybe play at Georgetown (I'm not sure Catholic or Gallaudet have big enough venues to host the title game).  But really that would be the next best scenario...which may not even be feasible. 
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