FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Ralph Turner]

It is nice to see some D3's remembered in the "greatest upset of all time", i.e., the 1921 Centre College win over Harvard and the 1926 Carnegie Tech win over Knute Rockne's Notre Dame.

[SaintsFAN]

Adam,

I used to subscribe to Blue and Gold Illustrated (and I am an ND fan).   According to sources in that publication, Willingham was playing alot of golf during the recruiting times.  He used smoke and mirrors to start his first season 8-0...using Bob Davie's recruits on defense and offense (offensively they were terrible).  Most outsiders say that he wasn't given a chance to groom his own recruits and thats a fair point, but they also don't know that YES, he recruited a couple standouts but not the level that even Davie had recruited and thus had to be let go. 

Fairly or unfairly, he wasn't doing his job..

Also, the jury is definitely still out on Weiss....he won with a few of Ty's recruits on offense and lost the big games with Ty's recruits on defense getting beat.  His handling of the QB situation has rubbed some the wrong way with the means he went about not telling anyone about it....then playing all 3.  The kicker was this week him saying he wasn't going to play musical chairs with the QB's....in announcing Clausen as starter. 

Myself, I can't wait for Dwayne Crist to be on campus this winter...He's a Carson Palmer type and I think will do well with the offense..

[70_dc_alum]

JacketsFan - GSU had some squads a few years back.  i dont think they would have matched up as well against UM as AppState.  GSU would confuse you with the option and then run it down your throat with the Bears RB (his TD run against Youngstown St in the championship where he has a hip toss/stiff arm at the goal line was the best run i ever saw).  But overpowering UM for 4 quarters is not a gameplan many folks win with.  App State will line up 4-5 screamers on the outside and run past you and have a QB that is impossible to tackle which happens to be michigans achilles heel.

[SaintsFAN]

DC70,

I saw that run....Adrian Peterson was the guy's name, if I remember correctly.

He had a brother that played LB for Florida and later the NFL for the Colts, I think.  Mike Peterson

[victorybell_57]

i had 5 friends who went to the game, and they all said it was one of the best games they have ever seen. they also said the app st. was faster and quicker at every position on the field!! they gave app st. a standing applause after the game. i'm not sure if the rest of the michigan faithful did the same. i am still in shock over them winning, but hey, when you can run and you can throw, anything is possible i guess. i thought mark may was going to punch lou holtz when he kept saying the spread was the equalizer.

dc shouldn't have to film their opponent like that. it's bush league and un-called for. olivet did that to fc a few years back, then wouldn't trade film. then fc thumped them on principle.

fc/wabash this week. huge game, tons of hitting expected in this one. i can't wait.

duke sucks, and yes there are a lot of DI teams that suck. there are also a lot of IAA that suck, and a lot of DII's that suck, and DIII's that suck. i think EMU played northern michigan in the late 70's and got whooped by them. it happens, but when you are #5 you better play the #5 card and beat somebody. detroit radio has been calling for Les Miles to take over michigan and fire carr. they apparently do not care that app st was loaded. they expect michigan to win.

[victorybell_57]

and it would be weird if they put bo in a glass case and put him down the hall for old time's sake. i know, you didn't mean that, i had a mental image and wanted to share that.

[SaintsFAN]

Les Miles huh? 

He's a "Bo Disciple", but how long do you think his mouth would endear him to the UM fan base?  He's already called out USC this year...

[money]

In regards to the Charlie WEIS and Willingham discussion.    There is no comparision as Saintsfan pointed out Ty was golfing instead of recruiting take a look at the senior class at Notre Dame there isn't one nearly all of the starters on Saturday were Freshman and Sophmore's.  Infact Tys last two recruiting classes he only had 2 Olineman.  If you follow Notre Dame closely you would know there is no comparision...  Charlie has recruited a top 5 class, #8 last year and currently the top recruiting class this year.  he has won 19 games in two years...They will take their licks this year because Ty slacked on the recruiting trail and ND has no upperclassman and no depth.....but mark my words after this year ND will be atop of college football for years to come the talent/speed is coming.

[victorybell_57]

plus, i think everybody is scared of weiss. that man knows how to win.

[money]

maybe they are scared of weiss is that walt weiss the former short stop for the oakland A's....Charlie Weis notice only one 'S'  sorry just me being an ass but everyone spells his name wrong...kindof like Kerry Wood everyone spells it  Woods pet peive of mine

[SaintsFAN]

Great story on a Bluffton RB and survivor of the bus wreck this spring...on the front page..

Guy changed his number to 5...

[wally_wabash]

Les Miles?  What exactly has Les Miles ever won?  I'm not a Michigan guy or even really a Big Ten guy (I grew up in Pac-10 country) so I have no dog in this hunt...I just don't know what Les Miles has ever actually accomplished that sets him apart from somebody like Lloyd Carr.  I tend to agree that Michigan could use a change of pace, but I'm not sure I'd be thrilled about hiring Les Miles if I were a Wolverine fan. 

Are any of you FC guys headed over to C'ville this weekend?  Should be a great game on Saturday. 

[SaintsFAN]

Wally,

He'd talk his way out of the job during the interview process...

His one claim to fame is beating Oklahoma a couple times during his stay at Okie State.....not exactly a great resume.  LSU fans are ready to have his head delivered to them should he not win the West Division this year for the third year in a row...while having superior talent.  Seems like he would be the same "pace" they are at now with Carr...losing big games with superior talent..

[INQBScout]

Charlie Weis notice only one 'S'  sorry just me being an ass but everyone spells his name wrong...kindof like Kerry Wood everyone spells it  Woods pet peive of mine

Thanks for the spell check---I must have been blinded by that ridiculous SB ring the arrogant one carts around on his finger...but nice reference to walt weiss...

[money]

He does have 3 of them....there are just some people who are going to hate ND and their coach no matter what they do ...I have a feeling if he was coaching your favorite team you wouldn't see him as being arrogant......maybe I am a little biased...Kindof like how I hate the sweatervest in columbus and the snakes salesman in Florida...we all look through different glasses