FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

Started by Adam Sayer, December 24, 2006, 10:01:33 PM

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dc_has_been

Looks like that is it, DC 16 Ott 14!  Last time I checked the scoreboard.
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JacketsFan

Well I'll be sheep dipped! They pulled it off 16-14. Way to go DC! Anyone know any stats yet?

cave2bens

DC won it, and I have no idea how the game played out, JacketsFan.

My reception in Atlanta was about as good as yours in Fernandina Bch.

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   along with the D3 sports links on the individual schools.  ::)
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dc_has_been

Nothing is up yet w/ stats on the HCAC site for dc
"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
Will Rogers
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
Mike Ditka

JacketsFan

" ...  And it was at that precise moment that he remembered an ancient Eskimo legend wherein it is written, on whatever it is that they write it on up there, that if anything bad ever happens to your eyes as a result of some sort of conflict with anyone named Nonook, the only way to get it fixed up is to go trudging across the tundra - mile after mile - trudging across the tundra right on down to the Parish of St. Alfonso ... "
;D

70_dc_alum

something tells me the offensive player of the week may be coming out of DC this week.

"Defiance's Luke Dillon stole the show as he outgained the entire Otterbein offense (258-251) and set a school record with 258 receiving yards and 17 receptions"

3hr rain delay...that would suckthey probably got back at 4-5am today

Adam Sayer

MSJ looked bad in the first half. I mean 2001 MSJ bad in the first half. But they still led at halftime 21-20. RHIT moved the ball up and down the field both with the run and pass and if it wern't for a couple of TO's, and a helluva kick return by MSJ, they would have been down 20-0. It didn't help that they lost the field position battle in the first half, but they looked horrible. There were about 10 of us on the hill who were on the 2004 team and we were embarrassed after the first half. One guy just flat out left.

The second half was a complete 180. I don't know if they underestimated RHIT and after the first half, woke up, but they looked pretty good. The QB had time (literally had 2 seconds to pass in the 1st half), Lovell made some good runs, and the defense stepped up and forced quite a few TO's.

MSJ's QB actually looks alright when he gets time to throw and has enough speed to make plays with his feet when things break down. He didn't throw any fade routes that were caught in the middle of the field cause "the wind took it." He did make a couple poor decisions but I would assume he will get better as he learns the college game a little more and gets some more PT (I thought the same would happen with Rashon, but......).

Being an O-lineman, I can't help but to say they need to be more consistent. They played like they didn't watch any film or prepare. I may not have been the best, most athletic, or the strongest, but I guarentee NO-ONE watched more film than me except for the coaches. I refused to be outprepared for a game. MSJ's O-line needs to start doing a little better preparation. RHIT's defense blew trough them like swiss cheese. Though the second half was better, an effort like that in the first half should get you ran and your a$$ thoroughly chewed. The QB literally had 2 seconds to throw. There were no holes for the HB. It all starts up front and the first half looked like they wern't ready. They need to put Anthony Bradford back on the OL. The kid is a good ball player and behind Wergers, is the best OL they have. He would greatly help playing guard.

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Adam Sayer

This is something that I was told. Don't know if it's true, but if it is, and if this is where the MSJ program is heading, it really bothers me.

Soriano, who as most of you know is a spread guy, came from a pretty decent program at Anderson HS. They wern't unbelievable, but they were good and he ran a respectable program. Word is that he came in and met with Mike Lovell. The same Mike Lovell who helped build MSJ into a HCAC Championship contender. He reportedly told Mike that he would be splitting time with a freshman running back because he was from Anderson and already knew the offense. Don't get me wrong, this kid is a decent back for being a freshman. But Mike has put in the time, has had over 1000 yards rushing every year (if Ricky Story had not came back he would have had almost 2000 yards in 2004), and is a senior and gets told that he has to split time...with a freshman.

FCC did this in 2001 and we were 0-10. He and the coaching staff started a bunch of freshman over upperclassmen. The last game of the year against FC, we started 11 freshmen. The difference is, MSJ was a program who was sonsistently 2-8/3-7 and had never really had success. This team is 30-2 since 2004 in the regular season.

Again, this was something that was told to me. I don't know the whole story or if Mike had done something to impeed his PT, or even if this is true. I do know that very few stories are just made up for no reason so on that behalf, I believe there is some truth to this.
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dc_has_been

That would be really messed up to make him split time w/ a freshman considering his resume.  So if it is true it doesn't say much about the coaching staff.

It was also nice to see Vetter throw for over three hundered yards & complete more than 50% of his passes.  It does help when Dillon had 258 of them yards & 17 of the completions, but I'll take it.  Looks like DC is running the same offese they did when I was thier w/ Mike Groll.  Groll would have 10+ receptions every game & the next receiver would have 2-3 receptions.  I guess if it gets DC a victory I'll take it.
"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
Will Rogers
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
Mike Ditka

INQBScout

Have seen a fair amount of post game perspective from the Wabash side...would be interested in what Franklin fans thought of the Grizzlies performance on both sides of the ball and how you see the team faring the rest of the year...


victorybell_57

my side is that franklin will use this as motivation to finish strong and make a strong posting in the playoffs, hopefully. it was a good game for both teams, and will show both teams what they need to improve on.

splitting time is not nearly that bad, especially in a new offense. however, how different can the offense be? you either run inside or outside zone (which every team does nowadays) or you run some traps or tackle wraps, so what gives? i am sure his experience as a running back has well prepared for the "spread run game" and the nuances of it. has this causes some division on the msj team?

Adam Sayer

Not on the team, just amongst 10-15 former players who played with Mike and watched the game Saturday evening.

It's just my opinion that you're loyal to the guys who have been with you. I may give my opinion and at times may appear to be blasting or downgrading the MSJ team, but I'll always support them and somewhere inside feel hurt or letdown by poor performances. It's nothing new. I was my biggest critic in the film room and even something as small as stepping with the wrong foot made me feel like I was letting my team down. It's the little bit of OCD I have I guess. Regardless, I'm here now when a few have left due to the Hilvert situation and I'll be watching games 10-15 years down the road with my kids.
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The Rev

Now that MSJ has been built up to the "powerhouse" that it is (quotations b/c they are only a powerhouse in the HCAC) Huber is now playing the best athlete at each position.  He doesn't care who your daddy is, where you went to high school or what you did for him last year.  Football is a game of what have you done for me lately. Lovell has been dinged up and had some injuries the past couple of seasons.  Maybe this freshman is as good as Lovell (with less wear) but those 2004 spectators have that loyalty to Lovell which might cause the division.  Sayer I am sure you watched quite a bit of film but I am positive that there were other teammates who watched a bit more than you.  I know i will get negative karma for dissing Sayer on here and spouting my opinions since they do not agree with the rest of the board oh well.

SaintsFAN

rev,

we encourage other opinoins...  freedom of speech.


sayer,

I don't know what to say to that RB deal....  Lets just say this....Soriano does have a sizeable ego. 
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

SaintsFAN

an update on Sayer's boy...from the McMurry website:


Rashon Lewis had a roller coaster of a game in his first home game as quarterback for McMurry. The junior rushed for 180 yards on 17 carries and scored on 13 and 64 yard touchdown runs. He tossed two touchdowns and passed for 180 yards. However, Lewis threw four interceptions and was just 19 of 41 in passing. Even still, he produced 360 yards of total offense and his 64-yard touchdown run came on a 3rd down and 24 situation
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2