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Started by Adam Sayer, December 24, 2006, 10:01:33 PM

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JacketsFan

Woe is me. A parade of fools in black and red vans with slobbering Georgia Bulldog decals on them are already parading around town yeehawing like hillbillies. DC gives it up - again - to MSJ. What the hell did we stop running the ball for, will someone please tell me?

SaintsFAN

#1606
has_been,

I'd be pissed at the coaching if I were Defiance guy....play calling was terrible...wasted a great defensive effort....though if MSJ lost, they'd be saying the same thing.  Just a vanilla game....could be attributed to the two defenses.

Dillon appeared to hurt his right shoulder in front of the MSJ sideline in the 3rd quarter. 

We couldn't BELIEVE the guy messed around the ball on the punt....then MSJ's announcer called his name out.  Unreal.  Anyways, MSJ seemed to be really energized by Lovell's series. . . . he got them down to the 20 for a field goal.  Without him playing that series (and his only one), I'm not sure who wins this game. 

Both offenses were equally inept. . .though, I think playcalling had something to do with it.  DC runs a curl on 4th and 11 after the sack and MSJ defends it.  Meanwhile NEITHER team threw into the middle of the field.  Lots of players losing their footing.  Shame this thing didn't go to OT.  MSJ has to root for DC now against Franklin. 

Nice meeting DC70...at halftime and tepee also...though he seemed to be busy with his old man. 


Sayer, we'll see you in two weeks for sure for the Bridge Bowl and maybe next week like you said for W&J's visit to Kentucky.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

altor

DC shouldn't give up hope yet.

Non-conference Opponents' records:
Franklin:  15-9
Defiance:  14-10
MSJ:  12-12

They have to win next week and hope from wins from Adrian and Otterbein for the next two weeks.

dc_has_been

70dcalum & Saintsfan & cave2bens, thank you gentleman for all the updates, it is appreciated & once I hit the 200 level for the 2nd time I will give 1+ Karma to you all. 
It was a tough loss today & I won't say the better team won, but I will say that one team was luckier than the other (& yes that is my bitterness). 
DC really needs to put things together next weekend if they have any desire to beat Franklin.  They are kicking on all cylinders right now & DC will have to put some sugar in the gas tank to get them to sputter.
All in all, Go Jackets, finish the season strong!   
For my 200th post I will finish off w/ another Michigan joke:
Did you hear about the fire in University of Michigan's football dorm that destroyed 20 books?
The real tragedy was that 15 hadn't been colored yet.



"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
Will Rogers
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
Mike Ditka

Most Known, Unknown.

Great game for MSJ, why to get back to tough defense, and playing hard, nice shut out victory. MSJ needs some luck now, but the way FC is playing. I dont see DC beating them; seemed like a great defensive game. I look at the end results and not what could have been etc. Great win, not my outlook on the game, but I will take a shut-out any day of the week. What did Dillion end up having as far, as stats before getting hurt, and how much did DC rush for. Great win Coach Hubbie!

Most Known, Unknown.

Just some info from DC web-site:

Despite the stifling MSJ defense, the Yellow Jackets were still able to move the ball on the ground and topped 140 yards for the sixth-straight game this season. DC totaled 141 rushing yards and was led by 90 yards on 15 carries from Lewis Caralla, while David Thornton and Hans Vetter combined for 20 carries and 51 yards.
   

DC's highly touted passing attack failed to get on track as Vetter managed only 13 completions for 82 yards. Luke Dillon was the primary target but only caught five passes for 24 yards. Gary Allen caught four passes for 26 yards and Christopher Khoma hauled in the longest completion of the afternoon for DC of 13 yards.

Adam Sayer

I don't know much about coverages (kind of like I don't know much about disco :) ) but every time DC tried to go deep to Dillon, it seemed to be single coverage. The corner was in his jersey the whole game. The height wasn't a factor because the coaches at DC have obviously not taught him to go up for the ball and catch it at its highest point. He let the ball come to him and the corner was able to make plays on it. 

Joe, Vetter was the QB you said he was back in the summer. He makes bad choices. MSJ came with a blitz and to avoid it, he chucked the ball up to the middle of the field. There wasn't a single DC guy near.

Lovell's first carry went for 15-20 yards or something. It's not that he's necessarily better than the other backs, its the mentality of the offense when he's in the game.

So much for Florida's psychological edge against Georgia and UGA. The coach sends his whole team to the endzone to celebrate. That's some crazy sh!t. Then backs it up by beating them. That's what I'm talking about. I don't know if I would ever have the brass to do something like that though but it's cool.

And regarding Penn State

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMenB9Ywh2Q

Ohio State looked good and with all these upsets, to go into Purdue, when they were ranked, Penn State, and Washington and win, I think they have a legit case for number 1. I know Washington isn't very good, but they have played everyone tough including USC and Oregon (GO DUCKS).
I'm a man, but sometimes I want to smell like a different smelling man!

Adam Sayer

And it was good meeting Ben (aka 70_DC_alum). Sooner or later I will have met everyone.

I wore the old wrestling singlet for Halloween with a pair of steel toed boots and a mullet wig. Talk about hillbilly's, JacketsFan, I was the biggest one last night :)

Whoever is in control of this site needs to put a "countdown" application on it. It would be cool to set up a countdown for a big game ala The Bridge Bowl.



I'm a man, but sometimes I want to smell like a different smelling man!

70_dc_alum

Good to meet you guys too.  since that was my first game i can comment on if the offense was differnt than in past weeks, but it is difficult to open it up if you dont throw crossing patterns and something over 3 yds.  MSJ had the same issue.  Dillion nearly climbed over the DB on a fade in hte 2nd or 3rd right in front of me.  was good coverage and a hell of a play becuase the ball was a little under thrown.  the INT in the endzone should have never been thrown it was way underthrown and couldn't be blamed on Dillon other than the fact he could of just takled the guy and kept the ball with a penalty.  it was 1st and 10 from the 40.  they through a couple to him after he was only able to move 1 arm and he couldnot go up for those and they pulled him after that.

personally i thought both coaches called a pretty good game.  both were very conservative and must have watched OSU from 2002 game film prior to the game becusae it was get the ball at the 5 drive 50 yds pooch it to the 5.  it went back and forth like that until they stopped DC on 4th and 2 which gave MSJ the ball at the 35.  drove the same amount as every drive but this gave them the shot at the long FG.  the radio did not do justice to how bad the muffed punt was.  heels on the 10 the ball was kicked into the coner so he was 10 yds away to the side and running after it.  then looked around at the 5 then decided last second to go for it and got smoked as soon as he got close.  when the ball hit he should have ran the other direction and hoped it made the endzone like most folks do.  i know what he was thinking becuase it looked like it was going to stop at the 2 so WTF lets make a play.  this is why they tell you to run the other direction.

not sure if Lovell can walk today but he showed some major stones in that last drive you could tell it hurt like hell every time he limped back to the huddle.  I know DC has some good RB's but it looks like Lewis had the hot hand yesterday.  he hits the hole hard and runs straight.  the running game went a lot better with him in there, but with a game like yesterday where it seemed like a running clock all day i think it was damn near the end of the 2nd before he got his second series to get through the rotation.  you got to get your athletes on the field, just a little worried we are trying to rotate too many in 1 spot and tought to get hot in a tough game.  just the opinion of a washed fan in the stands.

good game to watch congrats to both teams.  MSJ just made a couple more plays.

last i checked still for all of the marbles this week in Franklin.  a ring is a ring!!!

SaintsFAN

#1614
not a bad joke, Encino Man, not a bad joke. . ;D


if we get our arses kicked today at the hand of the Steelers, there's going to be a bridge alert in Cincinnati for all the bandwagon people jumping off. . .

I prayed last night that they could come together for this one...after all, Arizona did. .
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

SaintsFAN

#1615
Quote from: 70_dc_alum on October 26, 2007, 05:08:20 PM
yea that was the game where we pissed you off in the pregame with the whole team giving you the DegenerationX Suck It during Cali's.  Big O who was a coach for you guys was the RB (i think it was Orlando Smith played FB for UC) on my arena team and was so fired up when i told him where i played.  said it was a bit of a disservice to us becuase it pissed them off so mouch it put the team at another level of intensity...oh well crap happens it was funny

yeah, I remember this.  Big O was right. . . we even did that sky kick after a TD and recovered it. .  It still was a great game. . . but you guys definitely woke us up.



If you guys haven't already...go to espn.com and see Trinity's last play (Cal Lateral) to beat Milsapps...
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

Adam Sayer

It seemed to hurt MSJ that Mike Jones is out with a knee injury. He's the primary reciever.

The endzone play was nice by the corner, but most of the time, Dillon tried to reach up and over the DB. If he would leave his feet and get in the air, he would catch everything cause not many DB's are over  6'1". He is a large guy. He's not the typical WR build. He looks more like a TE.


I'm a man, but sometimes I want to smell like a different smelling man!

JacketsFan

I wish I could have been there raising hell with you guys but if I'd been there in person, the stress might've been too much and I probably would've blown my ticker out my arsehole. Adam, I hear they're filming a new Deliverance movie. Why not take your Halloween costume and audition for the role of that guy who says, "You sure got purty lips." Ben, thanks for the update this morning. I wasn't there to see the game so I guess it's not real fair of me to Sunday morning quarterback. However, humility and discretion never being one of my strong suits, I will anyway. Someone who was at the game called me with a very good critique early today.

I can only imagine how ugly Scooter's abortion of an attempted punt return was. I guess he forgot the part about the same thing happening at MSJ three years ago. Wake up, kid.

Why oh why oh why does Hans Vetter insist on trying to pass to Luke Dillon when he's covered up and his TEs are open? Am I correct in understanding that there were quite a few times when both TEs were wide open in the middle of an unprotected zone and Vetter didn't even attempt to pass to them?

When you've got a running back that's a turf eater, why do you take him out unless he's hurt? Georgia didn't take Moreno out yesterday and he almost singlehandedly whipped Florida's ass. Would Huber take Mike Lovell out of a game when he's hot? I don't think so. What the hell was that all about? Was he hurt?

Didn't DC do anything to adjust when MSJ put Lovell in? I mean, c'mon, you know what the guy's gonna do. Why not take a page out of Huber's book and concentrate on stopping him?

Great defensive effort. Same old vanilla offense. Oh well. And Franklin's next week.

dc_has_been

It sounds like it was a complete meltdown at the end of the game & a good team will know how to handle that situation.  I'm not saying DC is not good, I just don't think they were prepared to be in that crunch time situation.  We have been notorious for screwing the pooch in big games.
"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
Will Rogers
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
Mike Ditka

70_dc_alum

they tried to stop Lovell, bottom line they manned up and he ran it right down their throats.  only real crunch time F'up was the muffed punt.  not sure if you could say the TE was open alot most of the passes where 1-3 step drops quick hitch.

i think Notre Dame could run all over the Bengals.