FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

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I think SaintFan was bustin' somebody's chops.  I questioned it at first, too.  But, I think he trying to say that TMC will beat MSJ on Saturday, making Capital the obvious Pool C choice.

[JacketsFan]

fc_alum_84, yes, you did comment on what a class act that Coach Taylor is. That was cool of you to do that. The point of my post, and this is to Grizzlyball, as well, was very well summed up by SaintsFAN in a subsequent post. Over the years, a number of us here have gone from being anonymous posters to real life friends who've actually met and enjoyed each other's company. Hell, I even took Adam Sayer and his mom and brother fishing on my boat down here in Florida over the summer. Others of us have gotten together at football games. I have an old friend from another conference (formerd3db) whose son was still playing football at Adrian  the first year my son started at Defiance. We met in the endzone at halftime during one of those matchups and have been friends ever since.

The friendships you'll develop here will last a lifetime if you cultivate them properly. Trust me, you never get too old for friends. I had a heart attack a year and a half ago and the outpouring of well wishes and get wells I got from my fellow d3 posters meant as much to me as all the get well cards from my coworkers - more, really, because your coworkers feel obligated. These guys do it because they're friends.  We used to bust Victorybell's balls all the time a few years ago because he was the only Franklin guy here and he was so persistent in his belief that his team would soon be HCAC champs. I came to realize after a few of his posts that he had more balls than most of us to put up with the abuse we gave him early on and still stick around. I think his karma was something like minus 20 at one point, wasn't it, VB?

Always let a defeated foe save face. You prove who's the victor by your win and you prove it again when you let him leave the arena with some dignity intact.

W&J is a high powered team. I wouldn't be too worried about CWR if I were Franklin. W&J, like a few people have already pointed out, is a very dangerous team.

[Adam Sayer]

Back in the day, I used to watch the WWE like it was my job. Tonight...I'm flipping through channels and come to Stone Cold Steve Austin driving a beer truck to the ring and chugging "Steve-weisers." Ahhh, brought me back to the good ol days of chugging Beers on a Sunday night before school watching Stone Cold and The Rock go at it during Wrestlemania. The only person who would have made things better would be "Hacksaw" Jim Duggins.

Hell, I don't know what the East has to offer, nor do I care. W&J was just an option to look at in the North.

I'm a little upset that The Park plays on Saturday. I'm giving up watching them and the defending State Champs, to watch the Bridge Bowl. Gotta go though TMC to get to the prize. Should be an ESPN Classic.

I'm out like Jamal Lewis' rushing record.

PTR

[Adam Sayer]

The boys from MSJ should look up and read Shakespeare's Henry V. Specifically the Eve of Saint Crispin's Day Speech.

[dc_has_been]

So when the new regional rankings come out for the North it will look something like this:
1. Mount Union
2. Wabash
3. CWRU
4. Franklin
5. Wheaton
6. MSJ
7. Witt
8. North Central
9. Capital
10.Carthage

Some big games too for these 10.  North Central vs Carthage, Wabash vs DePauw, Wheaton vs. Ill. Wesleyan, MSJ vs. TMC, Cap vs. BW, & what might be the spoiler CWRU vs Ohio Wesleyan.

[fc_alum_84]

Hope you are right hasbeen.  in the event that CWRU is as overated as many think and OWU wins (they have a good chance. OWU has played several quality opponents tough this year). Franklin has a chance to move up one more spot. That would give them a chance for a win and rematch with Wabash and keep them away from Mount Union.  Probably wishful thinking.  Even if FC got Wheaton at home, beating them would be a tall order.  The Carthage loss may just be an anomoly.

[hurler]

The boys from MSJ should look up and read Shakespeare's Henry V. Specifically the Eve of Saint Crispin's Day Speech.

I think the guys at MSJ would better understand this:

From this day to the ending of the world we in it shall be rememered, we lucky few, WE BAND of BROTHERS. For he who today sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.
shake's crispin is cool but the old english would be a tad tough.
(from band of brothers) got to give credit where credit is due.

[SaintsFAN]

Thanks Hurler...  for knowing the MSJ guys needed that read to them.   The last line of that, I think is key though to this game.  Because had it been given, maybe this rivalry isn't as big on Saturday?  Or maybe there'd be a few more old school MSJ posters on here like AWM. 


has_been,

I'm being 100% serious. . . W&J would have smoked the MSJ team I saw against Defiance.  It wouldn't have been close.  Thats not a bad thing, thats just the Presidents being on a different level.

Also, someone in here said something about Waynesburg.  They lost this past weekend for the 2nd straight day.  Now its not an IN-REGION loss.  Hell the game doesn't even really count because Geneva is NAIA/NCAA transitioning, but it will be on the minds of the committee.  I can assure you of that.. .. .. I don't think they get in. 

[SaintsFAN]

jacketsfan,

formerd3db was the doctor from Alma's team back in 1999 when I ate a bunch of turf up in Alma.  I still remember the guy....well kind of. 

[hurler]

Saints fan- This 'bridge Bowl' will be a Dog fight, we have two coaches that have been on the same side of the field that will now be on opposite sides this saturday. Plus i think a win for MSJ MAY put them in a bracket, TMC has no chance,so I think TMC will do all they can to keep MSJ out of any pool.
  Hilvert is coming back to his former place and seeing former players.
The former players want to show Coach that the lessons he taught were well taken.
  TMC has alot to show, they are not a push over team, the record says one thing but these are tough kids who want to show that the win column is not all they are made of.
  The Coaches, Hilvert & Hber will be on radio: 96.5 FM- 7 to 8 PM, Wednesday the 7th. With the personalities of these two it should be a great show and maybe amusing.
  Coaches Poll comes out today-

[SaintsFAN]

hurler,

I think the PAC has gotten Thomas More ready for this game.  I believe thats why you saw what you saw last season in the Bridge Bowl.  EVERY game is tough.....but Thomas More has played 3 or 4 quality programs during the season in that conference. 

Geneva (still has NAIA schollys) is 7-2
Waynesburg (won their first 7) is 7-2
W&J is W&J
with a roadgame at Thiel (yes they are down THIS year but still tough)

....I think you'll see a very confident TMC Saints team on Saturday.    They've seen good teams this year....this isn't the case where someone is stepping up to play someone after playing a schedule of cupcakes.   Again, this isn't the first team that MSJ has played either.   It will be interesting.  I know being an ex QB, I see a few places on defense that I'd attack (and Adam I kept that to myself vs. Defiance).

Also, you'll see a fired up MSJ....win and they COULD be in.   I still think if Capital monkeystomps Baldwin Wallace, they'll get in somewhere.

[SaintsFAN]

Hey also, I hear there's a new Bridge Bowl Trophy out there making an appearance this weekend. 

How about THAT??

[hurler]

YES  There is a NEW BRIDGE BOWL TROPHY!, Designed by  MSJ sophmore.
  Katie Carney.  Good job Katie! Heck the other one is hand made and 17 18 years old.
  NEW TROPHY- NEW ERA! i'm just teasin saintsfan!

[Adam Sayer]

I've been calling for a new trophy since they "found" the old one. I remember SaintsFan trying to explain the "hidden" value of the old trophy and what it meant to the guys who played in the past about 5 years ago. I have 6th grade kids that can make a better ceramic bowl than what we had.

Kevin, you're not the only one. I've had some worries since the RHIT game (you didn't see that first half monstrocity). It hasn't been that big of a deal since and the defense is comming off consecutive shutouts. They have confidence. I do believe you can't give enough credit to Coach Hilvert and his staff working with the injuries this year and the same goes for Coach Huber. Bringing in a new administration and having a chance to go 9-1 for a 3rd consecutive year is impressive.

Whats the plan Saturday? What time will people be showing up, etc. I get paid on Friday so a little fun at Maloney's will accompany afterwords.

Right now I have the gym teacher trying to have class in my room which is 15yds x 10yds because the gym is being used for voting. DRIVING ME INSANE!!!!!!!

[propower64]

American Football Coaches Association Division III Coaches' Poll
Nov. 6, 2007


Rank School (1st votes)  Rec. Pts. Prev. Last Week Next Game
1. Mount Union (Ohio) (39) 9-0 997 1 D. John Carroll (Ohio), 53-0 Nov. 10 vs. Marietta (Ohio) 
2. St. John's (Minn.) (1) 9-0 942 2 Idle Nov. 10 at No. 16 Bethel (Minn.) 
3. Wis.-Whitewater 8-1 929 3 D. Wis.-Stout, 26-10 Nov. 10 vs. Wis.-Platteville
4. Central (Iowa) 9-0 872 5 Idle Nov. 10 at No. 12 Wartburg (Iowa) 
5. Washington & Jefferson (Pa.) 9-0 829 6 D. Thomas More (Ky.), 42-0 Nov. 10 vs. Bethany (WVa.) 
6. Mary Hardin-Baylor (Texas)  8-1 794 7 D. East Texas Baptist, 72-7 Nov. 10 at Howard Payne (Texas) 
7. Wabash (Ind.) 9-0 745 8 D. Denison (Ohio), 42-0 Nov. 10 at DePauw (Ind.) 
8. Wesley (Del.) 8-1 712 9 Idle Nov. 10 at Morrisville St. (N.Y.) 
9. St. John Fisher (N.Y.) 8-1 666 10 Idle Nov. 10 vs. Alfred (N.Y.) 
10t. St. Norbert (Wis.) 10-0 563 11 D. Illinois College, 31-24 Regular Season Complete
10t. Muhlenberg (Pa.) 9-0 563 12 D. Ursinus (Pa.), 31-7 Nov. 10 vs. Moravian (Pa.) 
12. Wartburg (Iowa) 8-1 502 14 D. Cornell (Iowa), 35-7 Nov. 10 vs. No. 4 Central (Iowa) 
13. Salisbury (Md.) 8-1 484 15 Idle Nov. 10 vs. Frostburg St. (Md.) 
14. Wheaton (Ill.) 8-1 471 4 Lost to Carthage (Wis.), 35-27 Nov. 10 at Illinois Wesleyan
15. Trinity (Texas) 8-1 448 16 D. Centre (Ky.), 34-6 Nov. 10 at Austin (Texas) 
16. Bethel (Minn.) 8-1 422 17 D. Augsburg (Minn.), 44-35 Nov. 10 vs. No. 2 St. John's (Minn.) 
17. College of New Jersey 8-1 365 18 D. Buffalo St. (N.Y.), 27-14 Nov. 10 at Kean (N.J.) 
18. Case Western Reserve (Ohio) 9-0 279 21 D. Washington (Mo.), 35-27 Nov. 10 vs. Ohio Wesleyan
19. Capital (Ohio) 7-2 257 20 D. Muskingum (Ohio), 19-13 Nov. 10 vs. Baldwin-Wallace (Ohio) 
20. Mount St. Joseph (Ohio) 8-1 204 23 D. Bluffton (Ohio), 28-0 Nov. 10 vs. Thomas More (Ky.) 
21. Franklin (Ind.) 8-1 186 24 D. Defiance (Ohio), 55-22 Nov. 10 at Hanover (Ind.) 
22. Curry (Mass.) 10-0 113 NR D. Mass.-Dartmouth, 40-25 Nov. 10 vs. Coast Guard (Conn.)* 
23. Occidental (Calif.) 7-1 111 NR D. Chapman (Calif.), 21-15 (OT) Nov. 10 at Whittier (Calif.) 
24. Rensselaer (N.Y.) 7-1 97 13 Lost to Rochester (N.Y.), 25-21 Nov. 10 at Union (N.Y.) 
25. Whitworth (Wash.) 7-2 89 NR D. No. 19 Linfield (Ore.), 10-6 Nov. 10 at Puget Sound (Wash.) 

MSJ still ranked above FC.  Kinda strange!