FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[cave2bens]

Ben - hope all goes routinely with your mother's procedure, and she's back to verbally abusing you in short order. 

Best wishes for some great football games this weekend, regardless of personal loyalties, and here's to a resurrected DC team showing up and not allowing a Beaver win in the Back Forty.

[victorybell_57]

the interesting rumor is that Matt Theobald will be considered for the HC head job at the end of the year. He has been long lobbying for this job, and thinks he has the credentials to make it work. Alum, DC at FC, recruiter, southern indiana, FC has been 9-1 the past few years, etc...

Coaches these days whore themselves out for the next best thing, then leave and move on. It happens, not much you can do. If he gets offered, he has to look at DC at a rising power, or jump on the burning ship that is sinking. Money maybe getting better as an assistant or taking the 20k pay raise for 4-5 years until the ship goes down again. just my opinion, but no coach can make it work at HC any longer.

These sort of rumors also get started by HC fans to try to take the focus off the Grizzlies preparation during Bell Week. Another ploy by the communists from down south.

[victorybell_57]

if you didn't notice, that was my ploy to have the FC give all of their assistants large raises for the success they have had and the attention they have brought the school. I also would like to see the Leonard and Theobald monster continue at Franklin for many years to come. If they leave, I hope they leave for ND and bring the same success to South Bend. It has been hard to say GO Irish this year.

[Adam Sayer]

Due to my profession, I must condemn punching retards...as funny as it may be. Unless you're watching some crazy video's, has Ron Jeremy ever punched a retard? I'm still all for for Midget Tossing and even the occasional Beating of the Brat while listening to The Ramones.

I wonder if TMC's defense calls themselves the Darkside? My allegiences are where I played. Coach Hilvert was an assistant but he was never my direct coach. If I had played defense, my loyalties may have been tested, but I'm loyal to the one man who will throw an aluminum chair into a crowd of players, claim we're gonna win the game because he found a dollar on the locker room floor, who will claim he's hung like a rat and a horse within 2 minutes of each other, who will play the guitar like he's Hank Williams Jr, who wants 11 swinging D!cks to the football during live, 1's on 1's, kickoff/kickoff return, who will take any player who can walk and chew bubble gum, and take any player who can stay up till 3am, drinking and smoking, come into practice at 8am and light someone up...cause they're a bada$$.

My man, "Rockin" Rod Huber!

I'm ready to punch the next kid who walks into the room...retard or not!

Since I don't know MSJ's fight song: Let us sing the praises of the bold Caveliers....

Prostetic Testicle Rubbing!!!!!

[Most Known, Unknown.]

Even though I know the in's and out's of Coach Hillvert Defense, and once shared dinner with him, and his former wife. My cheering is for MSJ and Coach Hubbie, who I think is a great motivator, and great friend, but like I said the coaching edge goes to Hillvert, even though MSJ has more talent then TMC. Coach Hillvert will get the best out of his players. The type of defense he run is for aggressive guys, who can bust their butts to the ball. MSJ has a lot more to play for then TMC, and it is great that they are playing at MSJ, so it will be a nice welcome for Hillvert. Many people who know, Hillvert kept MSJ going for a long time, because he did most of the recruiting! Many people at MSJ are loyal to Coach Hubbie, because he is still there, but everyone in their right mind knew that sooner or later Coach Hillvert would leave MSJ, but they did not dream, that he would go to TMC. I think wherever you get your first break take it, and don't look back!  MSJ will still win!!!   

[Jacket18]

DC_Alum_70, The thoughts of the Jackets family up in Kazoo are with you and your family!  Hope all goes well!

Go Jackets!  Kick some beaver arse!

[Adam Sayer]

Looking at the playoff projections, assuming MSJ wins tomorrow (not by any means guarenteed), they would have a better matchup than FC. I'd much rather play CWR than play Wheaton...not to mention the 2nd round game if you win. Again, we got 1 more day of fun to let it all sort out.

[nittanybacker]

When coach Hilvert left and went to TMC I never really thought that I would rooting for TMC more then MSJ.  Some events that happened at MSJ since Hilvert left was the real reason for me to turn my back on MSJ.  I was a big Hubie fan at MSJ but you can only laugh things off he does until it isn't funny anymore.

I am going to pick TMC on Saturday 21-10.

Sorry to tell you SaintsFan but I was lucky enough to get an offical TMC football hat.  I have a couple connections over in Cresview Hills.

[fc_alum_84]

Sayer you read my mind. FC may get the wrong end of the stick with Wheaton on the road vs a very beatable CWR.  Wheaton losing did not help FC's cause at all.

Does anyone on here thinkg that Coach Leonard will jump ship to go back to HC?  While he certainly could get them competitive again, it appears to be long term rebuilding effort similar to where FC was when he came five years ago.

[Most Known, Unknown.]

I would think that HC would perfer someone with leonard ties to HC. he can recruit, and can turn things around, why not put his name in the hat, and if HC offer him a better packages then FC, then i can't see why he would not go back to his roots, it would be a big gain for HC, and they will have their pass happy offense again!  Leonard has a great offensive mind, and thats what HC could use again, with good recruits, and if FC wins a Play Off game, his stock will go up!~

[youngbucksoverhere]

I'm a reader not a poster but I wanted others opinions on this I posted this on the playoff projection on the daily dose but I wanted some HCAC opinions

North Region I think can get pretty messed up this weekend if I was looking at things the right way
Weaton @ Illinois Wesleyan - Ill Wes playing for a possible tie for the CCIW (with North Central playing Carthage to get into the mix to) Weaton (8-1) lost to Carthage (7-2) last week while Illinois Wesleyan beat Carthage earlier in the year. I think this is going be a very decisive game for both the CCIW and the playoffs.

Case @ Ohio Wesleyan - A presumable overrated Case team (according to a lot of people on d3football) playing a mediocre Ohio Wesleyan team.

If Weaton loses, Case loses, Franklin win, Mount St. Joe win how does that scrammble the North Region rankings?

If things go that way I think its really going fugde things up for the north teams

Just some food for thought

Go Grizz the new bell must stay where it belongs!

[youngbucksoverhere]

something else to add Illinois Wesleyan beat Carthage this year 35-31
Weaton's only lost came to Carthage 35-27 there could possibly be a 3 way tie in CCIW if I was looking at things the right way

But hell what do I know

V-Bell you'd be proud of the way both the O-line and D-line has been playing this year for Franklin wish you could have seen a game this year

[Adam Sayer]

I left the Blue Ash Frisch's tonight and as I was walking out, a truck rolled through with Thomas More stuff all over it (he was a parent of one of the Seniors on the Team, from Reading). I decided to start yelling Go Mount Saint Joe as loud as I could as he was ordering. Then we proceded to stare each other down as he continued to go though the drive through. I got one more "Go Mount Saint Joe" in while I was driving away. The guy probably thought I was a jacka$$ but he's from Reading and being a Deer Park kid, I don't really care.

Not only will MSJ have a more favorable first round game, they will most likely play Wabash in the 2nd round (A team who FC would probably love another go around with) if they win. It isn't out of the question with THAT draw, MSJ could meet MUC in the regional finals...and get beat by 40 points . Now this is all if's and buts and candy and nuts if MSJ doesn't take care of business. I'll admit, I'm kind of worried. Word around is some of these guys arn't taking the TMC game seriously. Watch your whole season get flushed down the drain if you don't play with heart and desire this Saturday. The best team doesn't always win...MSJ found that out last year.

[Adam Sayer]

The primary thing helping MSJ out is they went on the road and beat Illinois Wesleyan. Again, I don't think anyone wants to play Wheaton except MUC because they will hold any team they play to 7 points or less and score 30 or more. I don't think IW wants to play Wheaton after the loss to Carthage. Wheaton's season is looking very similar to 2004. They spend majority of the season ranked in the top 10 and top 5 only to be upset late in the year by Carthage.

Wheaton may be a team MSJ may want to look to add to the non conference schedule after the IW contract runs out. I know IW is having a great season, but they are traditionally in the cellar of the CCIW. Having Wheaton would certainly boost schedule strength as well as tell you where your team is year in and year out.

[Mr. Ypsi]

something else to add Illinois Wesleyan beat Carthage this year 35-31
Weaton's only lost came to Carthage 35-27 there could possibly be a 3 way tie in CCIW if I was looking at things the right way

But hell what do I know

V-Bell you'd be proud of the way both the O-line and D-line has been playing this year for Franklin wish you could have seen a game this year

A 3-way tie in the CCIW is not possible, since NCC also plays at Carthage Saturday.  The possibilities:

If Wheaton wins, they are AQ regardless of the NCC/Carthage result (NCC would be co-champ with a win, but Wheaton has the h-to-h tie-breaker).
If IWU beats Wheaton and NCC beats Carthage, IWU and NCC are co-champs but NCC is the AQ on h-to-h tie-breaker.
If IWU beats Wheaton and Carthage beats NCC, IWU is the solo champ (and AQ).

The winner of the NCC-Carthage game still has a (slim) chance at a pool C bid.