FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Most Known, Unknown.]

I agree. I think the Mount should try beefin up there Pre-Season games, with some real teams, and prepare themselves for Conf play. Playing against tougher teams early in the seasons give you a chance early to improve on your weakness! Get some better teams on board, and you will get more respect! and better seedings when Play-Offs come, because they base your seedings on win/loss records, strength of teams you have played etc. It would be wise for hubbie to start looking at some tougher teams, early on in the year, because teams like wheaton, or Mount U, you will be facing in the Play-offs. Play Ohio Northern, Wittenberg some-one who is proven!

[dc_has_been]

I think some interesting things can still happen this weekend that could shake things up in the North region bracket.  I do not agree w/ Wheaton being ranked ahead of Franklin considering SOS & the fact that Franklin lost by 2 pts on the road to a top 10 team (Wabash) & Wheaton lost to a good Carthage team but it wasn't by 2 nor was it an away game either.  Anyways, it all depends on what happens this Saturday anyways.  Good luck DC, spank those Beavers!!! & Good luck to Franklin & MSJ.  Finish strong so that you both can represent the HCAC in the playoffs.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I think some interesting things can still happen this weekend that could shake things up in the North region bracket.  I do not agree w/ Wheaton being ranked ahead of Franklin considering SOS & the fact that Franklin lost by 2 pts on the road to a top 10 team (Wabash) & Wheaton lost to a good Carthage team but it wasn't by 2 nor was it an away game either.  Anyways, it all depends on what happens this Saturday anyways.  Good luck DC, spank those Beavers!!! & Good luck to Franklin & MSJ.  Finish strong so that you both can represent the HCAC in the playoffs.

Franklin has a slight lead over Wheaton in OWP, not SOS.  SOS consists of BOTH OWP (F: .584; W: .560) AND OOWP (F: .495; W: .564).  The data can be interpreted as Franklin's opponents had a slightly higher winning % because they played considerably weaker opponents than did Wheaton's opponents.

SOS is also the Achilles Heel for Mount St. Joe: OWP, .475; OOWP .504.  If they go to 9-1, they will almost certainly be in, but if 8-2 their chances are essentially nil.

BTW, both should root heartily for IWU.  Not only would it probably knock Wheaton clear out of the tourney, but the Titans would probably re-enter the regional rankings (a big plus for MSJ).

[dc_has_been]

Mr. Ypsi- if IWU wins does that give them the AQ from their conf.? 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Mr. Ypsi- if IWU wins does that give them the AQ from their conf.? 

If IWU wins and NCC loses (at Carthage), the Titans are AQ.  If IWU wins and NCC does too, NCC is AQ.  If Wheaton wins, they are AQ regardless of the NCC-Carthage result.

[altor]

If Weaton loses, Case loses, Franklin win, Mount St. Joe win how does that scrammble the North Region rankings?

If things go that way I think its really going fugde things up for the north teams

I'm going to qualify this by saying that I don't believe Wheaton or Case will lose.

But, if it does happen, Franklin moves to #3, MSJ to #4.  Both get home games, but the opponents are a little up in the air.  IWU/NCC (whichever gets the AQ) or Capital would be in that general seed.  Case would be a long shot in Pool C with 1 loss.  But if they get in, they would be in the mix to travel to FC or MSJ too.

[victorybell_57]

case should lose, they are a total academic school. they did great this year, but they have no real advantage in this game. I see MSJ beating them and doing very well.

franklin vs wheaton. there is a red faught connection in this game, and since that splash of leonard, the grizzlies have been rolling.

[SaintsFAN]

Adam,
If that were me at that Frisch's, I would have asked for two eggs and egged you.


This COULD be a big year for the HCAC, in whats been a crazy year.  Thats why I think has_been is right.  There's going to be another shake up this weekend.   

Most unknown,

OAC teams are hard to schedule.  They play 9 league games, and the one non-conference game is usually scheduled years in advance (even for Mt. Union). 

[KYGrizzly]

At this time I don't see Coach Leonard going back to Hanover. As he said last week after the win he was going to enjoy the ride while it lasts. I would think that if given the chance he would like to try DI as an OC before he would return to Hanover.

[fc_alum_84]

FC appears locked into a 4/5 seed. Assuming Wheaton wins FC will be forced to go on the road. (winnable yes but certainly not as winnable as playing Case) If Case wins MSJ may go on the road to Case (very winnable).

FC needs to pray for a Case loss.  That could move Wheaton up to #3 and would give FC the likely home game at a solid 4.  Someone on one of the boards suggested Wheaton is essentially playing for a home game instead of an away game with FC as a Wheaton loss would make them a #6 with two losses but MSJ would still remain at #6 (assuming win against TMC) as the two teams cant play again in the first round. Then again a Wheaton loss could knock them out all together.

FC first needs to take care of business at Hanover.  Winning the new bell (loud ringing as Coach Leonard said in his weekly newsletter to the Touchdown Clubl and going undefeated in the conference is a great deal in and of itself.

Good Luck to MSJ as two 9-1 teams from the same conference says a lot about the HCAC taking postive strides.

[AnonymousFan]

I agree with KYGrizz.  I son't see Leonard going back to HC.  If he does he's crazy.  It doesn't matter how good you are at recruiting.  If Hanover doesn't decrease their enrollment standards and give alittle bit more financial support they will never get the players he can get at Franklin (or other HCAC schools for that matter).  You don't thgink every one of Franklin's star players this year didn't look at HC too but either couldn't get admitted or couldn't get the financial aid they needed?  Hopefully they will make an effort to change things for the new HC coach, but from what I hear from friends down there it doesn't look like admissions has changed much so far.  It will be interesting to see what names are thrown in the ring.

[SaintsFAN]

Anonymous,

Word is they are giving up on the higher enrollment standards and whatnot that has HELPED to put Hanover College Football where it is today. 

as KYGrizzly said, not at this point.....but everyone has their price. 

I think they'll have a national search for a coach, but I think it will end up being someone in the area. 

[Adam Sayer]

Now that I've lost all this weight, had you egged me, I would have surely moved. They don't call me White Lightening for nothing.

And since playing a youtube video of the Lion King would be meaningless compared to your The Saints Are Coming video, I'll just simply say

"Anchors Aweigh"

[Mr. Ypsi]

Most here seem to be assuming that Wheaton will win (perhaps at least in part because MSJ beat IWU in week three).  Note that IWU's OL has THREE freshmen - the Titans are a very different team in week 10 than in week 3!  (My intent is NOT to discount MSJ's win, just to note that a Wheaton win is NOT a foregone conclusion.)

[70_dc_alum]

It isn't out of the question with THAT draw, MSJ could meet MUC in the regional finals...and get beat by 40 points

i hate to break it to you but i dont see anyone through to salem coming within 40 pts to MUC.

thanks for all the well wishes suregery got cancelled today because she got a cold.