FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[wabashcpa]

its easy, wabashcpa....all Texans are cheaters. 

JK, I know I remember reading somewhere that you live down there.

Never been to Texas - I think Lil' Giant may live there though.

Actually, the thought that crossed my mind was that since they were sanctioned, they've had to seriously curtail the under the table proceedings, which has left them in the dust relative to the other large schools in the state (or surrounding states).  Kind of makes you wonder!

[SaintsFAN]

It does make you wonder.

I thought you were from Texas, nevermind. 

Happy Thanksgiving to all.  Don't eat too much.

[formerd3db]

blutarski:

Great info and thanks for coming up with that.  I agreed with Wally's comments and then was going to mention that very same thing i.e. if anyone could find out the exact info in his contract as that would be the one way to know if Miles did truly have an interest in the Michigan job ever and he would have thus certainy put it in.  You have now answered that for us.  So it will be intesting to see what happens.  I think he is doing the right thing regarding not talking about it right now so as to attempt not to be a distraction for his team and staff.  The difference, though, between him doing that and what Saban did was two fold; 1) Saban had actively sought and allowed (invited) "inquies" for other jobs, but 2) it got old very quickly for all his denials after so many times of doing that.

Also, one other aspect I would point out.  You will recall that Michigan's new bb coach had a similar clause in his contract i.e. having to pay $500,000 for "x-number of years" I believe to West Virginia to get out of his contract and Michigan did NOT pay that for him.  So I would be very, very surprised if Michigan, despite wanting a "high profile" coach such as Miles, if they do and even if he is a "Michigan Man", that they would pay the buyout clause for him.  If so, it would look very hypocritical and if I were the Michigan bb coach, I would not be very happy about that.  Again, only MO!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Don't forget that when Bill Frieder accepted another job before the 1989 NCAA tourney, AD Bo Schembechler famously declared that "A Michigan Man will coach Michigan" and installed Steve Fisher as HC immediately (he promptly won 6 straight for UM's only bball title).  Bill Martin (current AD) was an athletic administrator then, and certainly recalls the incident.  For him to 'tamper' with Les Miles before a bowl game would be a PR nightmare, but Martin has publicly said he intends to hire a coach before the year is out.  Given all that, I don't think Michigan could 'afford' Miles (monetarily, yes; reputation, no), and suspect they are actually looking elsewhere.

[victorybell_57]

it could get nasty like when nebraska had a plane waiting for houston nutt on the tarmac in arkansas, and he wouldn't go to the airport to look at nebraska.

i couldn't really see michigan going overboard for kelly. for one, his style of offense is so different than the past 35 years at michigan, it would take a few years to recruit those players there. secondly, this is still the big ten. they just lost a game because they couldn't run, or stop the run. hiring a coach with that in mind is probably their number one priority. lastly, on offense since the mid 80's, michigan has always been ahead of the curve. mixing unique run plays with a pro style pass system. i think their fans appreciate the run first, fool you on the pass later mentality.

that being said, they are putting a lot of money into the stadium, and money means results. they do not want the problem they had before they hired BO, which was a stadium that only sold about 50k seats a game. since BO, they haven't had that problem.

[Mr. Ypsi]

On the other hand, don't forget that that hiring was widely greeted with headlines of "Bo Who?"  Most Michigan fb coaches have been 'nobodies' before they became Michigan coaches.  It would not surprise me if the pick was someone no one is mentioning.

I have a suggestion from left field: Larry Kehres.  Might be very good for UM, and almost guaranteed to bring joy to 237 other d3 campuses!

[victorybell_57]

i would love to see kehres roam the blue sidelines. there is one problem though:

DI is a totally different business from DIII. I don't think the schemes would escape him, as football is football on any level. I do think the recruiting and public speaking engagements would be vastly different for a guy who is used to gathering 100 plus freshmen a year, and has very limited speaking engagements.
You aren't allowed to miss on the guys you give scholarships to, you have to live with them.

but kehres is an intersting name to be thrown out there, albeit on a message board. if a guy has the highest winning percentage out of any coach in the land, why wouldn't he get a call if he turned his resume?

[Adam Sayer]

VBell, to answer your question...because he's DIII. Football is football and schematically, things don't change, the only thing that changes is how much you teach. Could Larry Kehres get the same type of players for DI as he gets for DIII? Doubt it.

Someone had stated that he had a payout...Yes he does. It's public info not becuase of some website, but because of ESPN.

You can argue his brand of football and that may not sit well with Michigan. Here's what does sit well. He played there! Coached there (under the greatest Michigan coach of all time)! And can obvioulsy coach well! Spread or I formation, he wins games and has a team in position to win the National Championship. What more can Michigan want from a coach? I guarentee half the people in charge couldn't tell you the difference between the spread offense and a sexual position. What they do know is numbers. Speciifically, 1-6 and 0-10 (record vs Ohio State and National Championships).

[victorybell_57]

very valid points on kehres...he at least is way ahead of the curve at DIII. he cannot do that at DI. let's face it, he gets players and keeps them away from other schools because they want to go to mount union. at DI there are scholarship restrictions, and walk on restrictions. he wouldn't be allowed to have 155 guys on scholarship with 85 walk ons.

i was watching we are marshall last night, the coach said they'd be running a power I. the president said he didn't care because he didn't know what that was. the coach said "well you should."

[victorybell_57]

who are you guys voting for on the gagliardi trophy?

[Adam Sayer]

MUC's whole team

[victorybell_57]

i think they'll get their trophy here soon enough.

how about them having a guard up for the trophy?

[Adam Sayer]

About damn time a lineman gets some love. In Deer Park's conference, the CHL, the Offensive MVP a few years ago was the Left Tackle from Wyoming. He ended up playing at Ball State. Whenever linemen get considered for something along these lines, it sticks out like a naked woman in church. I love it though and think it's cool.

[SaintsFAN]

offensive lineman??  They shouldn't even have lockers NEAR or maybe in the same building as the skill guys that PEOPLE COME TO SEE PLAY.   


ok, on a serious note.  LSU just lost to Arkansas.  Both teams deserved to lose, I don't think we've seen a worse display of coaching than with both Head Coaches.  Do you think Michigan still wants Miles? 

Honestly, I KNOW his team was distracted this week.  I bet we see something on Miles here shortly.  No national title to play for that would keep him in Baton Rouge through the Holidays.  Michigan admin is cheering this loss loudly....NOW they can move forward with the guy.

Just get it done. 

Sayer,  call me this weekend.  I'm going to be out tonight with the fellas (if you think you can hang).  Starting at Willie's and then hitting a spot downtown for some good times. 

Tomorrow I've gotta take the little lady(new one) to Sake Bomb for some sushi and then we'll be out in Hyde Park somewhere. 

You got my number....USE it.

Seacrest OUT

[victorybell_57]

michigan probably isn't even interested in les miles. i can bet we are off the board when it comes to the guy they actually hire. it's always that way.