FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: victorybell_57 on December 12, 2007, 08:16:42 PM
he can call the arkansas players all he wants, they still have to get a release from him or the ad if they want to leave. they can make it tough on them.
"you have a coach..."
as a man, how you can blatantly lie to somebody's face like that? unless he is thinking, well, i wasn't offered the job until tuesday, so they did still have a coach. pretty weak.

That is what really burns my tush - coaches can do any damn thing they want, but players are locked in!  Yeah, in the utopian world, players sign with schools, not coaches, but why the double standard?  If a coach bolts on a contract, the players he recruited should have the same option.  And if a coach the player didn't bargain on playing for comes in, again the player should have the option of finding a 'better' situation.

KYGrizzly

From his past actions down here in Louisville I don't think he will ever change.

First he gets caught by the Courier Journal meeting with the president and a couple trustee's from Auburn at the Clarksville, IN airport talking about replacing Tubberville a year after they hired him.
Then on his way to the Liberty Bowl in Memphis he stops in Nasville and talks to LSU about their job opening.
Then he signs his extension on his contract at Louisville and says he loves it here and wants his younger children to finish school here. Two months later he is in Atlanta.
This guy changes his mind more than the weather changes here in the Ohio Valley.

I wouldn't doubt it if somehow Les Miles ended up going to Michigan after all, that he would be in contact with LSU about that job.

The paper here also reported that Jerry Jones owner of Dallas Cowboys who is a Arkansas Alumni called the owner of the Falcons to ask for permission for Arkansas to speak to Petrino. Both the owner and GM of the Falcons said no.


victorybell_57

they can leave for a better opportunity, but they need their release. but here's the thing:

1.) coach and ad deny release, then you have to appleal the NCAA to get your release. this is usually given to the student athlete after the appeal, but it's a pain to get.

2.) how do you re-sell yourself to teams that already recruited you? this is usually in the middle of the year when scholarships are not available also.

3.) most coaches do not want other program's rejects. they are leaving for one reason or another, 9/10 times it's not for a good reason.

4.) it's amateur athletics. if your coach leaves, so what. you still have your drinking buddies and the slutty girl in your macro class that wants you, get over it. you are playing football and getting a free education with all the perks that goes along. shut up, do your job, and take it for what it is: a free education where you can have girls girls girls and hit people.

SaintsFAN

Mitchell Report is out....

I glanced through it...I only saw 1 on there from during his time with the Reds... Hal Morris.  You would've thought he hit more HR's for us.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
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victorybell_57

i may be the minority on this, BUT, how does using steroids help you become a better baseball player? you still have to have hand eye coordination that is phenomenal, and hit a round ball with a round bat. juice doesn't help you with that. nor does it help with throwing accurately. it does help with rage involved with throwing broken bats at players.

Knightstalker

They increase your strength, there is some proof out there that they can help improve vision.  They allow a pitcher to recover quicker between starts and over the course of a 162 game season allow players to heal from the minor aches and pains that occur.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

victorybell_57

that makes sense after watching sports center. the great majority of them were all stars or world series winners. you might be right.

tricksnaps56

For anyone wondering, they've narrowed the job for HC head coaching job to three people.  The decision should come soon....

AMF

Adam Sayer

Word around is Bobby Petrino is one of the three finalists at Hanover after taking the Arkansas job earlier in the week  ;D

In response to players being locked in. This is basketabll, but it's the same concept. Bob Huggins recruited Super Freshman Mike Beasley to KState. After he was committed, Huggins left to take the job at his Alma Mater, West Virginia. Beasley wanted out of his commitment to join Huggins at West Virginia but KState declined.

In regards to the Mitchell Report, the two people you would expect most to see arn't in it: Mark McQuire and Barry Bonds. After watching ESPN, their legal analyst stated that this report wouldn't hold up in court and until you have more proof than a guy facing federal charges rating out people, I'd be a little weary. Plus, 80-85% of the people mentioned were good players. Not great, HOF players, just decent. As of now, its pointing fingers, he said - he said. Its far from being absolute proof.

Yes, Steroids does help you. Not necessarily putting contact on the ball, but how far the ball goes after contact. If you increase your fly ball distance by 10 feet (which really isn't that far), that equivalates into 5-6 more homeruns/year.
I'm a man, but sometimes I want to smell like a different smelling man!

formerd3db

Sayer:

I'd bet (if I were a betting man and I'm not :)), that if you asked Lyle Alzado (if you could) he could tell you just how much steroids helped him in his career. :  :'(
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

victorybell_57

yeah, but lyle alzado had to fight a 300 lb animal across the other side of the ball. plus, he got his start after using the juice while weighing 215 lbs out of a small college. he used steroids, and a lot of them. but the nfl was rampant with that in the 70's. anybody that lifting weights back then used them, because they weren't considered bad.

steroids help and they work. nobody doubts that. in football, it is an obvious advantage in terms of strength. however, you are also a lot more likely to blow a ligament since they do not get as strong as your muscles do. steroids cheat the muscle cycle up, but not the ligament strength. they take much longer, like if you were to get stronger naturally they would get stronger with your muscle.

i just don't know if the extra 5-6 feet on your long ball really helps all that much, or equates to 70 home runs. you still have to put the bat on the ball. even then, you better know how to hit it or else it's going to be a really fast ground out.

i just purchased a whole bunch of Forza-T and I am joining a softball league in the spring. I have been traditionally known as a ground out guy, maybe a double. i'll let you know if i lead the league in homers this year.

Adam Sayer

I'm a man, but sometimes I want to smell like a different smelling man!

victorybell_57


Adam Sayer

I recorded the Championship game and just finished watching it. Very impressive game by the Whitewater defense...plus a few lucky bounces. I know MUC walks around with this glow around them, but if Kehres kicks the field goals in the first half, does anyone think the game is different when it's 20-17 MUC going into the 4th quarter...at least mentally? The offensive mentality in the first half was as if MUC was just playing with them. Like Kehres was calling plays on Madden. Very cocky attitude and I think it cost them not kicking the field goals. It's natural for MUC to play better when they have a lead...its the only way they know how to play.

Then again, who am I to argue with a man who has won 9 NCAA Championships and has a .920 win percentage.

Kudos to Whitewater for playing with aggression. I loved watching Beaver dip his shoulder into #6 instead of going out of bounds. Then stiff arm him later in the game. They definately had more bounce in their step and attitude. It does help having hosses on the O-line who are 6'7" 318 pounds. Good God. That isn't right.
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70_dc_alum

that game was pretty sweet.  i am not sure if Beaver is really that good or it is his Oline.  them big boys kicked major butt all night long.  i dont think i could question Kerehes calls on going for it.  99 times out of 100 they score.  if they dont UWW is on the 1 against the best Defense in the History of the MUC.  the damage created by not scoring was not too bad considering the stops were in the first half.  Now if MUC would have pounded them in the mental effect there could have been bad becuase if you put your head down for 2 sec against MUC they would capitalize.  LK knows it and was looking to try to put a nail in early.