FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[DIII Fan]

Hanover to get new turf.....Story from Hanover website


http://www.hanover.edu/athletics/men/football/

Also, story of major state award to Coach Perry

[Adam Sayer]

Coach Perry deserves any award he gets. I'm as fond of him as an aracnophobic is of spiders, but he was a great coach for a long time.

JP should of done a good job speaking. He got plenty of practice Thursday night at Purcell...which from what I was told, included a whole night of stories about beating up Moeller...physically and literally

I saw the clinic line-up and it is impressive. They stated that it may be the best they've ever had. I'd encourage anyone who is interested to take a look.

www.thecoolclinic.com

[SaintsFAN]

Yeah, guys were giving him a hard time about being on "tour" with his two Hall of Fame Inductions in one week.

[dc_has_been]

DC has enough talent coming back to compete, but they will have to fill some major holes in the WR spot.  If Vetter comes back that's good, but I would like to see someone else step up.  DC is still loaded at the RB spot & have a decent offensive line returning too. 
On the defensive end they loss some strong players, but DC has always done a good job filling those holes & have a strong defense. 
Overall, I see DC doing much better than 5-5, but they will really have to step it up to compete with Franklin & MSJ.

[cave2bens]

Hey Fellas!

Here's a few HCAC football tidbits!

I was in Defiance for the BB game last weekend and got a little info about the DC Football Program. 

-Mr. Dillion is definitely thinking he has a pretty good shot at the NFL, he quit school and hasn't finished his degree.

-Mr. Vetter doesn't have to worry about who he will be throwing to, as he has left school also!

Sounds like it could be an interesting few months leading up to camp.  If I am not mistaken, DC didn't even have a young QB who got experience last fall.  So not only do they have to make up the production that Dillion provided, but also all that Vetter gave. 

Hopefully I can start posting a little more often and get into the mix!

This is interesting info.  I've got a HS senior considering DC.  Do they have enough talent coming back/coming in to make up for these losses?  What are your "professional" opinions about DC chances of improving upon last season?

Have to agree with Has_Been's take on upcoming DC fortunes.  In some respects, the team could be better off without concerns for Dillon's obligatory touches and Han's penchant for Jekyll and Hyde performances.  Folks "leave school" for a variety of reasons, and speculation/hearsay even from knowledgeable sources will remain "at home."  While DC lacks the ability to "reload" like some DIII powerhouses, they will retain a competitive streak and spirit.

Wish you, 08, and your son, the best in making the right decision for a strong and well-balanced collegiate experience.

- DC Class of 1975

[M and L]

Disappointed when I got out of bed today.  There was not a single school closing on the TV 

[dc_has_been]

decision08- on regards to who I would like to see step up, It is tough to say.  There are currently only two qb's on the roster right now & neither has had a lot of experience.  I just want to see someone who is confident enough to step up in the pocket & deliever the ball to someone on their own team .  I would think Stephens right now is sitting at the #1 spot for now, unless the Haggadone kid comes back ready to compete or a freshman takes the job. 

On regards to DC itself, I wouldn't have done it any differently.  It was four great years (97-01) & w/o the football program I would have never graduated & would have never made it out to California.  I would have been living in my parents basement in Southeast Detroit pumping gas if I went somewhere else.  Plus the school itself continues to grow & improve every year.  Your son would be making a good choice selecting DC for his undergrad. 

[Jacket18]

Decision08 - When I was in Defiance I was very impressed with the positive vibe coming from the entire Athletic Department.  I spoke with a few coaches and they all seemed very up beat about how things were going.  I also got the feeling that they "new" coaches that were hired last summer will have a great effect on the team after having a full year to get in the groove.  Although Mt. St. J and Franklin have a leg up on things, I wouldn't bet against DC having a great year.  Yes they lose a lot, but they also have a lot returning.

Cave2bens - I was only passing along a little info that I come upon, and didn't mean for any rumors or hearsay to start.  I have no idea what his reason for leaving school is and wouldn't speculate on it either, I just thought it would make for good discussion amongst this group.  I hope that both Dillion and Vetter both decide to get back to school at some point to get their degrees.  Hopefully Hans changes his mind and returns to DC for his senior season.

[Jacket18]

I would also like to second Has_beens thoughts about DC.  DC was a great place for me to attend school.  I am sure many of the other posters feel the same way about there schools and I wouldn't expect any different, but I can honestly say that the school was a perfect fit for me.    DC allowed me to experience some of the best times of my life.  Football was just a small part of the picture, as I also was part of the track team and enjoyed the friendly campus atmosphere.

[SaintsFAN]

first of all, decision08....how good is your kid.  I'm only kidding.

Seriously thats pretty neat that a potential recruits parents have found this board.  We've come a long, long way boys.


Even though I rip DC occasionally for them backing out of their series to play us, I have respect for the guys that have graduated from the school.  I don't think you can make a bad decision if you boy is thinking about playing D3 football no matter where he goes.  He will learn as much ON the field as he does off the field.  Plus time management, responding to adversity (esp at Defiance- kidding boys), and hard work (I know its cliche but true). 

One thing you said....that I think is important....even though Defiance hasn't won the league title the last few years, the mind-set is still there.  A team absolutely needs this to compete.  My junior year, we went 3-7 (and even lost to the Yellow Jackets)...but we still had the mindset that we were the best 3-7 team in the country (which we were if you see our schedule from that year).  The following year, we got the breaks we didn't get the year previous and turned out around to 7-3. 

Even though Defiance is probably NOT going to challenge for the HCAC this year (breaking in a QB is underrated- we did it this year), but they'll make their typical run in one of the coming years that your son is in school.

Good luck with your decision.  If you need any advice (except for which school to pick), use my personal email address and I'll answer what I can.

-Thomas More College Class of 1999

[cave2bens]

18 - Comment was speculation and opinion picked up from sources outside of this board, and apologies if sentence structure / meaning unintentionally inferred otherwise.  Obvious this poster was not an English or Rhetoric major...  

Welcome to the Board!

[Adam Sayer]

I have no clue what DC has comming back. If they have an experienced O-line and RB comming back, I will venture a guess that they will be an offense who tries to PTR (pound the rock for the newbies). Dillon was a huge part of what they tried to do offensively last year. Whenever DC needed a play, they did the Ol "throw it up to the tall athletic kid." They will need to find a young kid to step up and be a playmaker and you generally don't get those out of kids playing with little or no experience. I think a 5-5 year is realistic. They'll compete for 3rd in the HCAC with Hanover and RHIT, but that's about it.

As far as college, in the long run, a degree is a degree in my opinion. If DC is a good fit, you like it, go. You'll get the same quality education as you would anywhere. Work in the off season at a restaurant if the food is so bad. I was never recruited by DC and honestly, a life secluded in the country wasn't for me so I wouldn't have went anyway. MSJ fit me well. It was close, and I had multiple options for employement and living (I stayed at home). Plus they offered football and wrestling...the one and only reason I went there over TMC.

Pick whatever fits you best. Don't try to make something work at a place just because the women, reputation, or anything else.

[dc_has_been]

I hope you aren't giving advice to any other future students on their selection process for college.  Though your choices are what worked best for you, but I wouldn't say you'll get the same quality education as you would anywhere.  Some colleges will have better programs in areas like sports med, or buisness, and so forth. 
 

[SaintsFAN]

Agreed.  Hanover and RHIT are the "class" of the HCAC as far as degrees go.  Also some other great schools in the region are:  Case Western Reserve, Wabash, Earlham (if you like hangin with hippies), Wittenburg, Hiram, Kenyon (well most if not all the NCAC).  You get the point. 

There are major differences at most schools.  What I think Adam meant was that MSJ and TMC are similar in nature and he wanted to stay in town.   

Though I'm sure the president at MSJ would cringe at that.  .  . isn't it time to retire anyhow?

[victorybell_57]

ok, i'll bite.

how does hanover's degree make it the class of the hcac? i think the franklin crowd would argue the same. hanover is a great school, but i think it all depends on what you are looking for.