FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

Started by Adam Sayer, December 24, 2006, 10:01:33 PM

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dc_has_been

"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
Will Rogers
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
Mike Ditka

Adam Sayer

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Sure, RHIT and CWR have great traditions of academic excellence, but a degree is a degree. My education degree from MSJ qualifies me for the same job options as an education degree from Vanderbilt, Virginia, TMC, or whomever. A business degree from Defiance qualifies you for the same job options as a business degree from Xavier. I realize places like Harvard, Yale, MIT, or even great D3 schools may look better than a place like MSJ on a resume due to tradition, but I'm not any less qualified as a professional for attending MSJ.

I seriously doubt that a Principal will elect to interview someone solely based on where they went...maybe for their GPA (which mine wasn't very good), but attending a specific school doesn't mean how good a professional they are.
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M and L

And hel I got yob with my degree from MSJ and I Kan't spel

Jacket18

I tend to agree with Adam for the most part.  In a great majority of careers it doesn't really matter where your degree comes from, but at the same time I think there are several career fields that it is a big deal.  I think mostly it comes down to the demand that is happening in the particular feild.  If there is a over abundance of applicants, I think the administrators can be a little more picky, if there is a shortage they will take what the can get.  Just my two cents! 

victorybell_57

i would hope my doctor went to a great school. i'm sure accountants can pick up the trade at any traditional business school. numbers haven't really changed in the past 2,000 years.

i don't think i would have a problem sending my kids to any HCAC school. they all seem to be top notch academically and sociable. if they were playing sports, i would have to meet with the head coaches. i think they are the biggest selling points for small schools and athletes.

Adam Sayer

Any licensure program (doctor, teacher, athletic trainer, etc.) the institution has to be accredited. If it's not, you can still get your degree, but you can't get a license. In other words, if your school isn't accredited, your degree is pretty much worthless. In such a case, it would make a difference where you went, but if you wanted to be a doctor, teacher, trainer, etc. why would you even consider a place where you wouldn't be able to use your degree?

The OHSAA State Wrestling Tournament starts tomorrow and runs through Saturday. Lakota East got 2 kids out. It's always fun to go to Columbus for this event. Generally the bars are hopping with non-college aged people withcrazy-looking ears. Last year, they had the Arnold Classic, UFC, and State Tournament all at the same time. It made for some interesting times with some interesting folks.
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SaintsFAN

If you are getting an engineering degree...chances are you want it from RHIT. 

AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

frank uible

Chances are you would prefer it from MIT or Caltech.

SaintsFAN

probably so, Frank.  But not out of the list of regional D3 schools..
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

victorybell_57

case or carnegie mellon for engineering?

SaintsFAN

nope...not in the area....CLEVELAND AND PITTSBURGH?  Are you serious? 
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

dc_has_been

What is wrong w/ Cleveland & Pittsburgh? 
"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
Will Rogers
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
Mike Ditka

D3_DPUFan

QuoteIn a great majority of careers it doesn't really matter where your degree comes from

If that is true, why not simply go to an accredited state school, small college or community college and save all the money you would spend by going to a well respected private school or spending out of state tuition at places like Michigan? Academic rigor and reputation are very important in many (most) professional fields. It is simply not true to say it doesn't matter where your degree comes from...   

SaintsFAN

AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

Adam Sayer

Sam Wyche can give you a list of things wrong with Cleveland...starting at #1, throwing stuff on the field :)

In a majority of careers I don't think it matters where you go. I think it matters more how you perform. If you get an engineering degree from RHIT and have a 3.0 and I get an engineering degree from somewhere else and have a 4.0, even going to a "lesser" school, I think my 4.0 holds more weight.

Someone brought up supply and demand. To a profession that can be picky, it may make a difference if you went to Harvard or Cincinnati. Ultimately, I think it matters more how you perform in the classroom whether your on the east coast behind a black steel fence or looking at the Pacific Ocean from your classroom.
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