FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE]

Sayer:

Couldn't agree more with it being a terrible QB class.  IF Ryan is the cant miss prospect there are some real problems there, other than the fact that quarterbacks are more often can miss when take in the top 5 than cant miss.

McFadden is the top talent in the draft he may be as talented as Peterson, but he will not have the same impact as a rookie simply because he will not end up on a team with such a big talented offensive line as Minnesota.  He could have the same type of success if he lasts to 6 and goes to the Jets, with the signing of Faneca that OL should be much improved this coming season.  However from a fantasy football fall back position I hope he doesnt make it that far so that Thomas Jones is still viable.

[formerd3db]

Sayer:

I would have to disagree with a bit re: Henne.  Just because a player didn't have an "All-American" career, doesn't mean he doesn't have talent and might not do well at the next level if given a chance.  People said the exact same thing about Tom Brady when he came out of Michigan and Brady didn't have the best "star studded" career.  Heck, Lloyd Carr was always trying to give the QB job to someone else, including in Brady's senior year.  But, Brady continued to do the best he could and as we all know, proved everyone wrong thereafter and obviously in the NFL.  A person could make the reverse arguement for Drew Henson (or even Kurt Warner - who some would perhaps hold as the "all-time" unhearalded success story).  Henne may not turn out to do any better than the latter or even Stanton from MSU.  But then again, you might indeed be right, yet we all won't know until we see what transpires in mini-camps and beyond.

Granted, this year's QB graduating class doesn't compare to some of those in the past, but again, IMO, you can't underestimate any individual.  People arise to the occasion at different times in their lives.

BTW, some of the papers reported that Henne did well at the combine, contrary to what some other people mentioned.  Obviously, I wasn't there so I can't confirm either way - just mentioning what was reported in the papers (which we all know we can't believe what some reporters write in those things much of the time anyway ).   

[Adam Sayer]

We'll have to see, but based on Henne's performances in "Big" games, he won't be much more than a solid NFL back up. Tom Brady, though his career wasn't great at UM, was a solid QB with above average numbers and beat OSU and won Bowl Games. Henne has always been average at best while in college. You have to wait until he prooves himself on the field but I can't see him being anything in the NFL.

[formerd3db]

You have some good points.  Yet, also, just because Michigan didn't win some of those games against OSU and bowl games doesn't mean he doesn't have the talent to play in the NFL. Some of those Michigan losses were not all due to poor offesive play (such as not being able to get a first down to keep possession to run out the last 3-4 minutes of a game at times), but rather due to extremely poor defensive play (i.e. not being able to cover a TE and very poor secondary play - so you can't blame it all on Henne.  Your OSU bias is always clear, but we'll forgive you for that )).  Hey, Joey Harrington was a great college QB but look at his career in the NFL (although I will say he hasn't got much help at all from O-line at the places he's been).  I agree, he will probably be a solid backup if he makes it, but like you say, we never know until the pre-season starts (assuming he gets drafted). 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Chad Henne was probably the number one freshman qb in the country (so good that the expected starter, whose injury opened the door for Chad, transferred after having been rated the #1 prospect in the country when recruited).  What worries me is that he never showed notable improvement the following three years.  I doubt he will be Tom Brady.  On the other hand, who thought that Tom Brady would be TOM BRADY?!

[frank uible]

If anyone in the NFL (including the Pats)  had been truly smart about Brady, he would not have lasted until the 6th round.

[SaintsFAN]

and I can't wait until Randy Moss signs with another team....then he only has Welker left.  Brady WAS a great QB....not he's a great QB and a primadonna. 

I was glad Henne was a 4 year starter.  It gave Notre Dame hope in the Michigan game....("Make Henne play like Henne"), even when we had chitty teams. 

Eventhough, Manningham killed us in "07. 

[cave2bens]

and I can't wait until Randy Moss signs with another team....then he only has Welker left.  Brady WAS a great QB....not he's a great QB and a primadonna.

Not sure I'd pen Brady's epitaph quite yet - tone reflects a possible "Giselle fixation."    Pass the wine bottle, und Guten Abend, Liebschen...

[victorybell_57]

mount union is playing ashland first game next year. d3 power vs an underachieving d2 team.

i have heard it is still a 4 quarter real game, but an exhibition. why not just play it for real?

[SaintsFAN]

cave,

it has nothing to do with Gisselle.  I just think he's an arrogant prick. 

I admit, I was a fan until I realized something in the Super Bowl.  Every time things don't go his way....he goes off on his teammates.  HE made a bad throw to Welker in the flat in the 4th Quarter and b tched at WELKER for not making a better effort when the throw was 10 feet over his head. 

It went the same way in their previous loss, to the Colts in the AFC Title Game. 

I just don't think much of that practice....he's incredibly accurate.  BUT, only a good leader when everything is going his way.

[SaintsFAN]

for those of you that appreciate rock.....

check out this clip.  This kid is good.  Its a high school kid doing a pretty good rendition of Eric Johnson's Cliffs of Dover. 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X3yDRw1V0-Y

This song is also on Guitar Hero 3, for all you youngsters..

[Adam Sayer]

That OSU bias will always be there and to Chad Henne's credit, they were good in the 2006-2007 season...until the Bowl Results when the Big 10 was made a mockery of.

Any news on Pryor? I check ESPN every so often to see if he's made a decision but nothing has been posted. I believe he said he wanted to wait until basketball was finished, but the deadline for declaring should be approaching soon.

We're doing mean, median, and mode and I had the students do push-ups and sit-ups to generate their data set...they weren't having fun until I did them too, then the lesson was hilarious...especially when one of the 6th grade girls told me she did more sit-ups than I in the 15 seconds.

It's not like Gisele Bundchen is unbelievably smoking hot or anything...SaintsFan has been turned down by hotter.

[SaintsFAN]

Congratulations to the Thomas More womens basketball team....they finished the year 28-0, you read that correctly and got the #1 seed in their region.  This means they will be HOSTING the first two rounds of the NCAA D3 basketball tournament in Crestview Hills.


Adam,

by the way...there's no turning me down lately...I'm on a roll.  Planets must be aligned or something.   

[formerd3db]

SaintsFAN:

Gee, we might then see them playing at Hope's impressive DeVos Fieldhouse in the NCAA Final Four to be held there this month.  Might we see you there?? (I'm HOPING that Hope's women's team will be there as well)

[SaintsFAN]

formerd3db,

I doubt I would make it up there for the Final Four.  My little sister is getting married on March 29th here in Cincinnati and I have the bachelor party on March 22nd as well that will help to limit my travel time.

How are things?  Good luck to Hope....maybe our schools will finally meet.  Though if Hope wins a women's basketball meeting, I'm afraid I won't count it as a true loss to Hope