FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[wabashcpa]

Just wandering if this was the case of reading to many press clippings or if Trine is really that much better this year.

I think Trine is that much better - don't be surprised if Trine represents the MIAA in the playoffs this year. 

[wabashcpa]

I'd be interested in hearing about the 7 point 2nd half... maybe MSJ's defense (if they hold up against better competition - Franklin) will win the HCAC this year.

Rose-Hulman 27
Mount St. Joseph 21

Then again...

I'd say the HCAC is Franklin's to lose at this point.

[wabashcpa]

Bluffton 23
Kalamazoo 15

Good week to root for Beavers! (but aren't they all)

[Adam Sayer]

I wasn't there, but I'm hoping this was an isolated case of being unfocused. That's only MSJ's 2nd HCAC loss since 2004. I think they will be alright.

Notre Dame wins pretty big against a decent Purdue team.

Michigan, down 19-0 at half, comes back to win 27-25 against Wisconsin

Florida loses in the Swamp to Ole Miss.

It's setting up to be another crazy year. All of a suddent Ohio State may be back in the picture....though after watching Penn State, I think they may be the cream of the crop in the Big Ten, despite having almost 10 players suspended.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I wasn't there, but I'm hoping this was an isolated case of being unfocused. That's only MSJ's 2nd HCAC loss since 2004. I think they will be alright.

Notre Dame wins pretty big against a decent Purdue team.

Michigan, down 19-0 at half, comes back to win 27-25 against Wisconsin

Florida loses in the Swamp to Ole Miss.

It's setting up to be another crazy year. All of a suddent Ohio State may be back in the picture....though after watching Penn State, I think they may be the cream of the crop in the Big Ten, despite having almost 10 players suspended.

Quite possibly the best game I almost missed out of disgust!

With 4 minutes left in the 1st half (down 16-0), I left in disgust to go grocery shopping.  [1st half: 21 total yards, 1 1st down, 5 TOs ]  When they went 3-and-out on the first two possesions of the second half, I nearly turned it off.  Then, WOW!  [And they STILL nearly blew it - if Beckem hadn't lined up wrong on Wiscy's successful 2-point conversion, drawing a flag and then missing the replay, I just know the Wolves would have lost in OT.]

If those young-uns keep improving at their current pace, UM may be a very dangerous team yet!

[dc_has_been]

Crazy day in college football from DI BCS to DIII.  Maybe RHIT will be the team that represents the HCAC this year in the playoffs.  If Franklin's defense continues to play the way they're playing then RHIT's offense will do some damage on them.  Franklin is fortunate to get to play DC next week to get themselves back to winning ways, but they will need to put some things (defense & run game) together to run the table. 

[frank uible]

Saints: A list of top Ohio HS coaches might include Paul Brown, Chuck Mather, Leo Strang, Herb Eisele, Augie Bossu and Gerry Faust.

[fc_alum_84]

I was at the Trine/FC game.  No sugar coating here.  Franklin committed five turnovers and had three third and double digit situations where the defense allowed Trine to convert. (two on the same drive).  One of the turnovers was a punt that hit the FC return man as he was trying to get out of the way.

The first three times Franklin touched the ball went like this (fumbled punt, led to touchdown), penalty on first play then another fumble (led to field goal). 10-0 before FC mounted a drive.

FC still had the lead in the 4th with all that.  Trine is improved (especially on defense) but still has a way to go to be a playoff caliber team.  FC stunk it up in every phase of the game and had they won would not have really deserved it.  FC needs to understand that they will be getting every teams best effort.  They have been the hunters and they are not used to being the hunted.

Trine took advantage of what they were given and won the game.

FC will bounce back.  Thank goodness Rose  threw them a bone.  The real season starts next week.  Trine just ruined FC's chances of making the playoffs if they lose a conference game.

[70_dc_alum]

Angola, this weekend not withstanding, how many other DC alums will "sign up" for art exhibit attendance instead of the Homecoming Game on the 4th?     This household already has a couple of 80-something, blue hairs composin' Grizzled epitaphs for the bees (FC '43, and '48).

Not an art exhibit but i will be doing whatever my wife tells me to vs. tying one one in DC to watch a 60-0 whooping.  More becuase i have been on the road for 4 straight weeks and will be in Atlanta all this week so i could go but the Alimony would be expensive.

with the way DC is playing this year it feels like a bad run that the Blackjack tables when you cheer becuase you got a push and did not loose...thank god for the Bye week this week.

[cave2bens]

Angola, this weekend not withstanding, how many other DC alums will "sign up" for art exhibit attendance instead of the Homecoming Game on the 4th?     This household already has a couple of 80-something, blue hairs composin' Grizzled epitaphs for the bees (FC '43, and '48).

Not an art exhibit but i will be doing whatever my wife tells me to vs. tying one one in DC to watch a 60-0 whooping.  More becuase i have been on the road for 4 straight weeks and will be in Atlanta all this week so i could go but the Alimony would be expensive.

Got up at 5:00 AM to search for petrol and succeeded - lot of Georgia hangovers this morning, so the lines were only thirty minutes long    By the time I was filled up (after being on fumes for three days), there were 63 cars lined up at 5:45 AM.

Beer frig is fully loaded and humidor is stocked if you need a break from corporate hassle sometime during the week, 70. 

[Adam Sayer]

I think the RHIT game was due more to MSJ being a little down and RHIT playing a great game. I think the number was 3 freshmen starting or 3 first year starters on MSJ's O-line. Limits the amount of mistakes you can make when you're playing with youth. I still think MSJ will come into the FC game with only 1 loss. I also think we're giving RHIT a little too much credit talking about them being in the running for the HCAC. It was the first HCAC game of the year. Let's see how they, and MSJ play in the next couple games. Maybe MSJ isn't as good as we thought...maybe RHIT is better than we thought. Give it some time. I think it just happend to be luck.

[fc_alum_84]

I agree with you Adam.  While I am personally glad MSJ lost, I still think 10/25/08 is the game of the year.  FC should help MSJ out by beating Rose in FC prior to the MSJ game.  FC still in the drivers seat at this point.

Similar to the Trine game, Trine isnt that good and FC isnt that bad.  FC could have easily won even with all the poor play.

Coach Leonard won't need to worry about over confidence due to rankings and articles in the paper and on d3football.com this week. 

[SaintsFAN]

Saints: A list of top Ohio HS coaches might include Paul Brown, Chuck Mather, Leo Strang, Herb Eisele, Augie Bossu and Gerry Faust.

Frank,

I'm talking about by # of wins.  There's lots of great HS Coaches from Ohio.. I should have qualified my statement. 

Sayer,

I think the MSJ loss is a result of not playing anyone competitive in the first few weeks of the season.  I'm not attacking the scheduling in this case (who could've predicted a monsoon in Wisconsin for Lakeland?), but I don't think MSJ's pre-conference schedule has prepared them for tight, meaningful HCAC games.  Make no mistake, the FC game looms VERY large for both teams...but you have to give the edge to FC if nothing else than because of a tough non-conference schedule.   Mount St Joe has now played a tight game, but with this removing any margin for error...is the pressure going to be too much for the Lions (esp having 3 new OL starters-who have yet to mesh)?

fc.

I think FC and their fans WANTED MSJ to win this game....just like Mount St Joe fans should have wanted FC to be undefeated...both squads are going to be desperate on October 25th...

[frank uible]

Saints: Augie Bossu might qualify with respect to number of wins.

[frank uible]

P.S. The Notre Dame website states that Bossu had 310 wins.