FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[dc_has_been]

DC up 21-13 in fourth, but DC is making some questionable calls on offense to keep the clock ticking.  DC is averaging 5.6 yards per carry yet they are still trying to throw the ball.  Plus DC's has about 6 interference calls against them.  This game is still up in the air.

[dc_has_been]

Wow!  Mount 35 Franklin 40 in the 4th.  Nice comeback, but I don't know if MSJ has enough time. 
DC is looking to get their first win of the year.  While I was typing, DC threw an interception.  Less than two minutes left in the game & DC is throwing the ball. 

[SaintsFAN]

Thiel 14
Thomas More 45   F


We're looking at a HUGE game for the PAC Title and trip to the playoffs next weekend in Crestview Hills when W&J visits.

Freshman RB Kendall Owens scored on another long TD (from 40 yds out) and had 95 yards on 8 carries.  Stellman was 9-11 with 129 yds and 2 TDs.  Junior RB Collier had 12 carries for 93 yds and 2 TDs as Thomas More rolled up 503 yds of offense (326 of it was rushing yardage).  The defense had 5 sacks and 3 Fumble recoveries to hold Thiel in check.   Thiel scored their second TD and had 100 yards of offense against the backups, who were put in the game in the 3rd quarter with Thomas More up 42-7.   The Saints never trailed.

88 players saw the field for the Saints today. 

Next weekend is huge... then the Saints go to Beaver Falls, PA to play Geneva .. followed by the Bridge Bowl. 

[70_dc_alum]

hell yea DC with a big win!!

[fc_alum_84]

FC holds on for a 40-35 win.  MSJ plays hard in the second half and makes a couple of great plays but not enough to overcome a first half a$$ beating.  as they say it aint pretty but its a W.  on to RHIT next week at FC

hats off to msj for not quitting.

[Adam Sayer]

We're you expecting them to quit??? Every team has a backbone...some just don't realize it. MSJ will always play tough and will never quit as lonmg as Rod Huber is there. The day that happens, if ever, is the day I say I'm ashamed to be a graduate. Franklin can suck the sh!t from my a$$. We were 3-1 against them and aside from my senior year, when we had 3 OL either out or playing a different spot, the game was no contest.

We lose 17-13. Took the lead 13-10 with 1:28 left and couldn't hold on. Ohio State pees down their leg. MSJ loses a close one. My only hope is the Bengals and we all knows what happens when you put your faith in Mike Brown. It's a very bad thing to say, but I hope some redneck assasinates him sometime soon. I hate Mike Brown more than I hate Michigan and Hanover combined. I need to keep drinking. I still have some cognitive thoughts.

I'm really pist at the fact that people don't understand the little parts of football. Like getting away from a short punt, running the proper route (we have a kid in week 10 who still cant run a proper bubble route), taking on a block with the proper shoulder. I don't know how any coach can live past 40 cause I'm going crazy.

Please, if anyone knows a guy named Coach Higgins from Moeller. Let me know. He's a man after my own heart. He once told a kid "You're so bad I wish you were dead." When it came to hard asses, he was the hardest. I never knew him personally, but I wish I did. He and I would have a lot to talk about. I wish more people would take the "Old School" approach to coaching but today's society won't let it happen.

[SaintsFAN]

adam,

even though I was a QB... I feel you.  Probably mostly because you were drinking .  I can identify with that.  Its fun.  I didn't know Higgins, but knew of him through some of the Moeller guys I played with (and not the turds from Moeller that you played with).  Shame that he passed on the way he did... but his lessons live on in the guys that he coached...who have become coaches and fathers. 

A win is a win, but IMO Franklin has won TOO ugly against DECENT teams this year.  BW is decent, Trine is decent, MSJ is decent ... all of them.   MSJ having heart is one characteristic that you can count on..  I don't think this Franklin team is as good as last years... or even the 2006 version.  Sorry, I just don't.  Doesn't matter what you tell me.   This is a down year for the HCAC.  MSJ is tough as nails and Franklin beats decent teams but after that you have piles of poo.  Kind of like the PAC .. Thomas More/W&J and then DOO-DOO piles. 

I just got home (note the time) from Black Finn (somehow I got ushered behind the red rope in the VIP where I didn't pay for anything).  Well, maybe not home from BF.. I met a younger, female fan of SaintsFAN and we went and hung out at the After Hours spots.  We were celebrating because (I know Adam is going to hate this) I put some large denomination bills down on Penn State to win tonight.  As you can imagine, I was on pins and needles the whole way until Pryor's INT at the end.  WOW... Ohio State can play some defense against teams in the Big Ten.  BUT, I can't believe that Boeckmann didn't play at all.  Seems that maybe he'd have helped them to a little more than 2 FG's. 

OK, I've written enough and the young lady mentioned above is texting me.  I'm out.

[fc_alum_84]

I agree FC is a cog or two off from last year. 

The running game isn't as stout and the defensive backfield struggles to make plays when they absolutely have too.  FC doesn't run the ball well on a standard off-tackle type play. Most of the time they get good running yards off of a draw or some sort of pitch.

The HCAC is down to some degree is you measure MSJ and DC's current situations. But Anderson is better and RHI may have their best team ever. 

Bottom line, wins are wins and FC will take them as they come.  Winning ugly is still winning. MSJ has won a few ugly games as well in the past.

[nittanybacker]

Adam- My brother played under Coach Higgins and from his stories he did sound like a guy that you didn't want to mess with. 

I had to run downstairs this morning and check Sportscenter to make sure Penn State did win last night.  Being a Bengals fan I just assume my teams will lose and break my heart.  I really didn't know how to celebrate after the win.

It sounds like the the departure of Hilvert and Sparhawk along with the arrival of Soriano is catching up with MSJ.  I went to the Thomas More game yesterday and Hilvert has that program going in the right direction.  I will be there next week to see the game with W&J. 

So who do you think Franklin will play in the first round and what seed do you think they can get?  The HCAC has to be able to win a playoff cant they?

[wabashcpa]

So who do you think Franklin will play in the first round and what seed do you think they can get?  The HCAC has to be able to win a playoff cant they?

Assuming they get past Rose-Hulman, I don't see Franklin any higher than a 6 seed in the North.  Losing to Trine will cost them at least one seed.  A lot depends on what the committee does with Mt. Union (send them East?) and the WIAC champ (send them West?).  Right now, I would have North Central, Wabash, Case Western, Otterbein, Trine/Adrian winner, and then Franklin, followed by Wheaton and the Aurora/Lakeland winner, assuming Mt. Union and UW-Whitewater get sent elsewhere.  Any way you slice it, Franklin will be hitting the road, most likely to either Wabash or Case, both of whom will be pretty tough to beat at home.  Still a lot of football to be played between now and then, so it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

[JacketsFan]

Congrats to DC for the win against Anderson yesterday. Now take that one and build on it.

Sayer: "I would call out the whole team including their punk-ass QB."
Now THAT's the ol' Adam Sayer I remember. Dude, when you coming down to fish with me again. Maybe you and cave2bens can come at the same time and we'll have us a merry old time. We'll get on the marine band radio and I'll set the squawk as high as I can get it and we'll take turns with the mic talking smack to the whole east coast.

PS: Did DC actually have a head football coach back in the mid 50s to early 60s named Dick Small? Whoa!

And what costume shall the poor girl wear to all tomorrow's parties?

[Schwami]

So who do you think Franklin will play in the first round and what seed do you think they can get?  The HCAC has to be able to win a playoff cant they?

Assuming they get past Rose-Hulman, I don't see Franklin any higher than a 6 seed in the North.  Losing to Trine will cost them at least one seed.  A lot depends on what the committee does with Mt. Union (send them East?) and the WIAC champ (send them West?).  Right now, I would have North Central, Wabash, Case Western, Otterbein, Trine/Adrian winner, and then Franklin, followed by Wheaton and the Aurora/Lakeland winner, assuming Mt. Union and UW-Whitewater get sent elsewhere.  Any way you slice it, Franklin will be hitting the road, most likely to either Wabash or Case, both of whom will be pretty tough to beat at home.  Still a lot of football to be played between now and then, so it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

Whitewater is in the West region.  I doubt that Mount Union gets moved east again this year, but maybe Otterbein will be moved east as a Pool C.  Regardlless, it is probable that the HCAC champ will have a road game against a difficult opponent in the first round.  Maybe a rematch of last year's classic Franklin - North Central game?

[70_dc_alum]

PS: Did DC actually have a head football coach back in the mid 50s to early 60s named Dick Small? Whoa!

Not sure about football but he did coach track because they always had the Dick Small invitational every spring becuase the track folks always had the tshirts on and i would lose it

[cave2bens]

Congrats to DC for the win against Anderson yesterday. Now take that one and build on it.

Sayer: "I would call out the whole team including their punk-ass QB."
Now THAT's the ol' Adam Sayer I remember. Dude, when you coming down to fish with me again. Maybe you and cave2bens can come at the same time and we'll have us a merry old time. We'll get on the marine band radio and I'll set the squawk as high as I can get it and we'll take turns with the mic talking smack to the whole east coast.

PS: Did DC actually have a head football coach back in the mid 50s to early 60s named Dick Small? Whoa!

And what costume shall the poor girl wear to all tomorrow's parties?

Sayer - Mr. P makes a good point.  A couple of days in the company of "old school curmudgeons" might be what the doctor ordered, or might get you canned within the following week in politically-correct society.    Catch a $79 AirTran ducat from Dayton to ATL, and we'll have a quick roadtrip down to Joe's chummin' trawler.  No sweat...

Yes JacketsFan, "Oh it's twue, it's twue...".  Coach Small's wife is a very accomplished organist (and former music prof) as well.  Peel the 'nanner costume, a lap around Soho, and don a Campbell's Soup Can disguise, Nico.

[SaintsFAN]

[quote author=fc_alum_84 link=topic=5025.msg963340#msg963340 date=1225026970
Bottom line, wins are wins and FC will take them as they come.  Winning ugly is still winning. MSJ has won a few ugly games as well in the past.
[/quote]

We covered the ugly wins for MSJ back when they were still the dominant team in the HCAC (2006, if you want to go back in the archives).  Nobody is ganging up on the Franklin team -- The subject today is Franklin.. thats why nobody is talking about MSJ's "ugly wins"... that AND they aren't the flag-bearing member of the HCAC with the shot at finally winning the HCAC a playoff game.