FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[SaintsFAN]

Say what you will, but since we started the rivalry over again, it's 3-3. I told the cop in the parking lot to get a real job cause he told me we had to win 3 games before it could be considered a rivalry. My response: How long have you been here? We won in 2004, 2005 and 2007. Get a real job fat a$$...as I was pulling out.

Thats classic... haha!  One of those guys "pulled me over" when I was coming to pick up Dean Paul and Steve Sigler back in 2003 to play golf.  He said I was driving too fast... I sent him back to his car with a "oh yeah?!  what did you CLOCK me at?" .. they don't have radar. 

Thats pretty classy of him to point that out.  Just earn your $5.25/hour and keep your mouth shut.

[fc_alum_84]

interesting comment on defensive players with ego at MSJ   there is one that had this stupid face paint on for the FC game that was talking back to the crowd during the game when the score was 42-14 FC  MSJ has a lot of street baller type players the way they carry themselves and the way the play.  MSJ is medicocre at best in a fairly weak conference.  The scoreboard has spoken.

FC 34  Hanover 0 and the score was not even that close.  FC was hampered by a muddy field and had to resort to a running attack.  Hanover is a JOKE on both sides of the ball.

[fc_alum_84]

just had a few metrics  Hanover had 1 yard on the ground today (yes 1) and Franklin had 337 yards rushing and only threw 18 passes all game (to Hanover's 51).  I rest my case Hanover is as bad as they have ever been and I have seen them play at least 25 years

[dc_has_been]

With Cortland State losing does this mean Mount Union may go east again???  There are zero teams in the east that are undefeated leaving Mount Union the closest undefeated team to go east.  This would put NCC #1 in the north & Trine moving to #2 b/c of Wabash's loss.  Crazy that Trine is a possible 2 seed, what a story. 
Congrats to DC making it 4 in a row to wrap up an ugly start.  It wasn't against the best teams, but it is a good building block to next season.  Keep the guys around & work hard for next year.

[SaintsFAN]

I think today's events pretty much assure us that Mount Union will be going East again.  They are one of three teams to be considered for the #1 in the East, and the other two (SUNY-Cortland and Muhlenburg) both got beat today. 

Pat's in town tonight, I'm going to pick his brain over a couple beverages.  Very crazy to see Trine as a #2.  Franklin has positioned themselves nicely for a possible home game also.  We'll see tomorrow, you never know what the NCAA will do. 

How about LaGrange (GA)?? Before this year, that program had NEVER won a game... period, since they started the football program (0-20), and they go 9-1 to possibly set themselves up for a Pool B Bid, by beating a one loss Huntingdon team today.

[dc_has_been]

I see Franklin getting a 5 seed at best playing Otterbein or Wabash.  You are right saintsfan, you never know.

[70_dc_alum]

TMC had their personal fouls as well. I remember back in 2003 when I threw a fist into a guys face on the sideline cause he was running his mouth after an INT. That's the way it goes. It will always be a tough, physical game and personal fouls will be called. Diving at a players knees is a little iffy on the option, but it's not illegal. Tackle the pitch man and there is no option.

come on, man.  unless you didn't see it... you know it was cheap.  if you're going to hit someone on the option like that (even if the pitchman doesn't have the ball)... hit them high.  Don't be a COWARD.  It was a chicken$hit play.  The film won't lie... and that kid will have a target on him next year... guaranteed.  But we'll do it between the whistles and not in a chicken$hit way.

Didn't something like this happen against Defiance also ??  Not this year but two years ago..

by the way, call me back... I'm trying to reach you about something with tonight...

Any good Defensive coach will tell you against the option you layout the pitchman and QB everytime regardless of who has the ball.  You hit low for 2 reasons,  1 wear out their legs adn make them a little timid when they run and throw...only way to do this is make thier legs hurt and lay the wood. 2 only sure tackle is hitting low, you go high you risk wiffing when they cut it up and the idea of properly defending the option is you hit everyone so you are not depending on anyone ont he defense to read which leads to the d being timid and that opens the lanes on the option...SaintsFan you sound like a whiny old QB.   Assuming it was between the whistles

the thing with Defiance was Rashon Lewis where he told JacketsFan's son he would mail him a picture of his ring as the game ended so he proceded to attempt the body slam.  then the year before when there was a vicious blind side on  lineman which broke his hip which got a lot of people fired up on this board becuase it was away from the play but that one does not bother me because i go with the keep your head on a swivel motto

[fc_alum_84]

does anyone know anything about Case Western Reserve? They have had two great seasons in a row and are projected third by D3football.  They have only one loss in two seasons and that was the playoffs last year (Wabash by 13 or so).

While I wish FC was getting a rematch with Trine or a game with Wabash, Case might just be a better matchup for FC.  They do play on turf which helps FC with the spread.

[dc_has_been]

If the north ends up the way as predicted on the front page then I like the way the NCC bracket is set up. Franklin would have a good shot against CWRU who did not play the strongest schedule, but they did beat a good Wooster team (8-2) & Denison (6-4) both in the NCAC conference.  Who ever wins the first round would then have to face a very good NCC (sorry SaintsFan).  I see Trine being able to get by Wayne's World (Aurora) leaving to play Otterbein or Wabash. 
I still think Otterbein will be the 2nd best team in the bracket w/ their only loss coming to MUC, but anything can happen & this bracket could be anyone's.   Regardless, NCC is the team to beat & that will not be easy to do. 

[fc_alum_84]

wouldn't Trine play the 3/6 winner (FC/CWRU) as the number 2? and the winner of the second round would then face no 1 NCC?

The Wabash/OTT winner would get NCC wouldn't they?

[usee]

wouldn't Trine play the 3/6 winner (FC/CWRU) as the number 2? and the winner of the second round would then face no 1 NCC?

The Wabash/OTT winner would get NCC wouldn't they?

Yes that is correct

[JacketsFan]

DC - congratulations on putting a nice finish onto the season. Build on what you have and come back ready next year. BTW: I hear the O-line is HUGE. It's inexperience showed in the first half of the season but they finished strong.

SaintsFAN - about LaGrange College finishing 9-1 this year. If you'll go back two seasons and look at one of my first posts about them, I said back then that once LaGrange got up and running, it would be a major threat. I grew up in that neck of the woods and football is serious business there. LaGrange was a basketball school before getting football a couple of seasons back but they always had good basketball coaching. It only made sense to me that they'd get a good football coach for their program as well.

As for the little incident on the field between MSJ and DC a couple of years back, let's put it it this way. I was more than happy to see #92 feed a dirt sandwich to loudmouth Rashon Lewis. The refs had totally lost control of that game by then. Even more beautiful was watching #92 chase Lewis back 10 yards and slam his face in the turf on the very next play, too. I'll bet Lewis didn't wag his limp wrist in anyone else's face after that.

Bob:  Standing in the hall of the Great Cathedral waiting for the transport to come ...

[70_dc_alum]

I knew I could get you fired up again!!

FYI Bengals / Eagles = most boring football game ever.  I know lots in the media hate college football OT, but a tie are you kidding me.  Although it was fitting to the rest of the game...

[SaintsFAN]

TMC had their personal fouls as well. I remember back in 2003 when I threw a fist into a guys face on the sideline cause he was running his mouth after an INT. That's the way it goes. It will always be a tough, physical game and personal fouls will be called. Diving at a players knees is a little iffy on the option, but it's not illegal. Tackle the pitch man and there is no option.

come on, man.  unless you didn't see it... you know it was cheap.  if you're going to hit someone on the option like that (even if the pitchman doesn't have the ball)... hit them high.  Don't be a COWARD.  It was a chicken$hit play.  The film won't lie... and that kid will have a target on him next year... guaranteed.  But we'll do it between the whistles and not in a chicken$hit way.

Didn't something like this happen against Defiance also ??  Not this year but two years ago..

by the way, call me back... I'm trying to reach you about something with tonight...

Any good Defensive coach will tell you against the option you layout the pitchman and QB everytime regardless of who has the ball.  You hit low for 2 reasons,  1 wear out their legs adn make them a little timid when they run and throw...only way to do this is make thier legs hurt and lay the wood. 2 only sure tackle is hitting low, you go high you risk wiffing when they cut it up and the idea of properly defending the option is you hit everyone so you are not depending on anyone ont he defense to read which leads to the d being timid and that opens the lanes on the option...SaintsFan you sound like a whiny old QB.   Assuming it was between the whistles

the thing with Defiance was Rashon Lewis where he told JacketsFan's son he would mail him a picture of his ring as the game ended so he proceded to attempt the body slam.  then the year before when there was a vicious blind side on  lineman which broke his hip which got a lot of people fired up on this board becuase it was away from the play but that one does not bother me because i go with the keep your head on a swivel motto

except that on this particular play.. the play was over.  QB Stellman had turned up field and was tackled.  It was cheap.  Plain and simple.. but thats fine.  TMC won't forget what went on.  I guarantee next year, as long as the series isn't cancelled, will resemble the blood bath in 1995 -- our defense knocked a few out of the game. 

[SaintsFAN]

I knew I could get you fired up again!!

FYI Bengals / Eagles = most boring football game ever.  I know lots in the media hate college football OT, but a tie are you kidding me.  Although it was fitting to the rest of the game...

70... I was there.  Not only did I get up early today to meet a tailgate (girlfriend wanted this after I kinda ditched her to hang with Pat Coleman last night), but I also sat through the entire game.  I got to argue with some Philipinos wearing McNabb jerseys (they didn't know the words to the Eagle fight song -and I turned the whole crowd against them), but the part with the tie... wow.  I have no words.  One thing... I believe this is Andy Reid's last year... along with McNabb.  McNabb didn't want to be there... period.  He was god-awful and so is Reid.  He's lost the team.

No offense taken, has_been and thanks for the updates today.  I think its either Otterbein or North Central coming out of the North.  I'm going to try to make the game on Saturday up in IL.  Ott is a terrible draw for Franklin.  I was hoping Trine, CWRU, or Aurora.  Too bad... its been a great run they are on... and that offense is chameleon-like.. they have beat teams in the air and the ground this year...

While I'm thinking of it... does anyone know anything about doing play by play (radio)??  Pat and I were talking last night and I need to find a play by play guy so I can get on the air for the Playoffs (probably after round 2).