FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[victorybell_57]

i don't think any parent should have to go through what the parents at bluffon are experiencing. simply a tragic loss and it goes without saying, all of our thoughts and prayers are with them. keep jesus in your heart though a time like this.

[Adam Sayer]

Macke, check your personal messages.

[M and L]

Sorry Sayer it has been a while since I have been on here

[M and L]

Is there any uplifting news that we can talk about. 

Jamel Lewis signed with the Browns today.

Looks like the division is getting tougher.  What a good move for the Browns to take Lewis after signing Eric Stienbaug

[Adam Sayer]

My friends and I were talking about this last night saying Cleveland needed a run game. Here's what I think may happen. You may see Cleveland take Calvin Johnson in the #3 spot and take Troy Smith in the 2nd round. With Steinbach, their O-line is about a C+ and add Jamal Lewis, Calvin Johnson, and Kellen Winslow. You have an offense.

[M and L]

I agree Sayer,

[frank uible]

Not without a QB.

[M and L]

that is something I assume that they will address during the draft!

[Adam Sayer]

Troy Smith in the 2nd round

[frank uible]

Can't count on Smith. Heisman trophy winning QBs are much more bust than boom in the NFL. For starters see White, Crouch, Weinke, Wuerffel, Torretta, Detmer, Ware, Sullivan, Beban, Spurrier, Huarte, Baker. Try to name the successful ones.

[SaintsFAN]

Paul Hornung (as a RB), Jim Plunkett, Carson Palmer, Doug Flutie, Vinny Testaverde and Charlie Ward (for picking the NBA).

[frank uible]

Hornung and Ward don't count (actually Hornung was unsuccessful in his brief stint as an NFL QB). All the rest are marginal except possibly for Plunkett and Palmer. The successful list gets very short relative to the unsuccessful. And we haven't yet mentioned O'Brien (only 2 seasons in the NFL) and Bertelli (no seasons in the NFL but 3 lacklustre seasons in the AAFC).

[Mr. Ypsi]

Frank,

Don't forget Peyton Manning - according to all Tennessee fans, he REALLY won the Heisman, and Charles Woodson was a usurper!

[frank uible]

And Otto Graham and Johnny Unitas and Tom Brady should have won the Heisman, but they didn't.

[victorybell_57]

tom brady winning the heisman? he was an average michigan qb! seriously average, of course he didn't have a mean running game or the usual oline michigan gets. i love him, but no heisman.

the browns should get brady quinn. who cares about troy smith, he is short and was good at ohio st. doesn't mean he'll progress like the nfl qbs. i like brady quinn because he has balls and never missed a start. you know, i think the browns could use some of that blue collar thing they preach about and haven't had in some years. go quinn.