FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[70_dc_alum]

loved the UC game last night.  hilarious at the end when Pitt is trying all of the laterals and all you see are oranges firing past they players from the stands.  i am sure the Catskeller was rockin

[GrizzlyBall]

Congrats FC huge win yesterday. Defense did a great job in slowing down the run and did a great job defending the pass when it counted. Scottty Martin played a heck of a game along with the rest of the defense. Offense played outstanding Mr. Rupp 41-62 527 yds 7 Tds and 1 td rushing. Mr Deffner 10 catches 169 yds and 5 tds. Let's keep the ball rolling fellas!

[KYGrizzly]

That should be an interesting game tonight. I took Texas Tech getting 6 points tonight. Hit my first game of parlay as West Virginia covered the 7 point spread as they beat U of L by 14.

OUCH...that was a serious butt whoopin. 

That was really a good pick wasn't it. I also took Pitt getting 6. What a great night of football.

[SaintsFAN]

loved the UC game last night.  hilarious at the end when Pitt is trying all of the laterals and all you see are oranges firing past they players from the stands.  i am sure the Catskeller was rockin

That was hilarious seeing the oranges.  All UC has to do is take care of business now with Syracuse.  Brian Kelly actually coaches his teams, so I think they are home free. 

I was in Clifton last night -- WOW.  I closed down The Holy Grail.. about 3 blocks from the stadium. 


Great win by Franklin yesterday.  Enjoy it.. beating a 2nd place OAC team in the playoffs for anyone other than MUC was unheard of until last year with Whitewater.  One warning though... the NCC offensive attack is impressive.  They run it well (and are very physical) and pass very efficiently with a QB that has a big time arm.  Pass defense was not an issue this season for Thomas More and their receivers ran by our DBs like they were standing still... post routes and fly patterns. 

I don't put anything past Chad Rupp, but the Grizzly defense will need to be better this week.  Otterbein wasn't known as a passing team and they made things interesting with their success with it.

That said, I'm not pulling for anyone.  I'd like to see Franklin win, but North Central is the team that knocked Thomas More out --so I'd like to see them go far also. 

The Final Four in the North Central Region are four teams that can go all the way to Alliance..

[SaintsFAN]

KYGrizz,

I took the "over" last night.... it was set at 75.  65-21??  Yeah, I was very happy.

[altor]

loved the UC game last night.  hilarious at the end when Pitt is trying all of the laterals and all you see are oranges firing past they players from the stands.  i am sure the Catskeller was rockin

Perhaps I'm the only one that sees things this way (heaven knows that the ESPN guys encourage such behavior), but those fans were lucky that they didn't cost the Bearcats the ballgame last night.  All of this "storming the field" crap is dangerous and uncalled for, especially before the game is over.  There were students on the field during all those laterals.  Quite frankly, they should have been flagged, and Pitt should have been given an untimed down to try to score again.

Flame on if you wish.  I can take it.  I was pulling for the Bearcats as much as any fan of Ohio football.  I know the students are excited and they want to celebrate with their team.  But there is a time and place to do so, and on the field during the game is not it.

[Adam Sayer]

I was hoping Oklahoma would hang 70 on them...just for sh!ts and giggles. That was amazing. When I watched Texas Tech play Ok. State, I couldn't believe what I was seeing and honestly thought no defense would ever hold that team to less than 30 points. Oklahoma was playing as fired up when they were up 42-7 in the 2nd half as they were when it was the start of the game. Absolutely amazing. That game and Florida beating Ohio State were the 2 best all around games I think I've seen any college team play.

On a side note, Oklahoma and Franklin weren't the only teams who were playing basketball on turf. Abilene Christian beat a team 93-65. They tried the Millsaps approach at the end of the game to try to put up 100. I guess Abilene's football team doesn't share the same Christian values as the rest of the school

Word around is Brian Kelly's name is being mentioned as the next Tennessee coach. The man is going to a BCS Bowl playing 5 different QB's in a season. Are you kidding me? He's won everywhere he's been and is well on his way to being one of the best coaches in the NCAA if he's already not. Get your tickets now for the UC-Oklahoma game at Nippert next year.


Congrats to both Anderson and Elder. I didn't think Anderson would win. DeSales is one hell of a football team and Anderson beat them to get a chance to win state championship #2 in as many years. Elder has their work cut out for them when they play St. Ignatius. St. I's defense is sick and may be the only defense in the state to hold down the Panthers. The Big Red and Alter play in D4 action.

[Adam Sayer]

personally, I think ND needs to hire a hitman for 1/5 the price of Weis' buyout.. well not actually, but maybe they can catch him drinking with students in the dorms, or have him get a DUI.  If I were him... I'd make sure to keep myself off the "Front Page" and stay on the "Sports Page" because I'm SURE ND's new athletic director is looking for a reason...he has to answer to alumni. 

Ridiculous that he has a $20 million buyout.

I think I've been saying for years that Ty Willingham wasn't given a fair shot and was fired prematurely to bring in a man who had no clue about the college game. Even when ND was getting smacked around in Bowl games, I kept saying wait for it...wait for it...and now it's here. Say all you want, and all my ND friends still say Ty spent too much time on the greens, but I believe this was the same time frame (approx.) that Ty willingham was given. If Notre Dame doesn't fire Charlie Weiss for his poor performance, they will look like Bigots. I'm not making an argument for Ty Willingham, as I think he's an average coach, but the way the whole situation went down, the way ND jumped the gun after Weiss won with Willingham's players, and the overall expectations ND fans have, despite the academic standards, I think Charlie Weiss deserves the same fate...in fariness only.

[formerd3db]

Sayer:

I have to agree with you on that i.e. your opinion on the current ND situation and what they should do.  Also, I must add that if Brian Kelly bolts for Tennessee, then we should designate his new nickname as being the "Nick Saben clone" and/or "the Larry Brown of college football).  While no one would criticize his past desires to have landed a major college level head coaching job, certainly by bolting for Tennesse only after two years at Cincy (and only after 3 at Central Michigan, while courting for the Iowa State and Michigan State jobs back then), he would certainly earn the "nomatic" (and no loyalty) designation characteristic of Saban and Brown.  IMO, that would be sad.

BTW, I do not feel sorry for Philip Fulmer at Tennessee.  He was responsible for ousting Johnny Majors and did it in a very mean way.  While perhaps it was indeed time for a change at Tennessee back then, his disingenousness in the way it was done including Fulmers own personal comments and actions he made about Majors were very unprofessional.  Anyway, as that old saying goes "what goes around, comes around". - how true.   

[formerd3db]

Oops!  I misspelled "nomadic".  Then again, perhaps I should designate this as a new word i.e. a comination of a nomad and automatic 

[Adam Sayer]

Being "Nomadic" is a result of the almighty dollar. I think his train would stop at Tenessee for a while though as I don't see many other institutions who will pay him more.

I had a discussion with my future father-in-law that he can't ask for a better situation at UC. He'll always have a legit opportunity to play in a BCS game assuming he puts a quality product on the turf...which I don't think will be a problem for him. That conference is terrible. If UC is smart, they throw a nice hefty contract extension his way as a result. Think about how much UC will get from the Orange Bowl or wherever they play (assuming the Mighty Orange don't beat them)? I would even argue his chances of playing in the Championship Game will be better at UC than Tenessee due to the funk-john set up of the BCS.

[Adam Sayer]

And how about this for fairness:

USC beats Ohio State by 33 points and OSU dropped from #5 to #14. Oklahoma beats Texas Tech by 44 and the game wasn't even THAT close, and Texas Tech drops from #2 to #7. BULLSH!T...I'm now convinced none of these voters really know what's going on. Seriously. Texas Tech deserved to drop 10 spots after that performance. For crying out loud, Oklahoma was a 1/2 yard from putting 70 on them.

Pat,
If UMHB beat North Central like Oklahoma beat Texas Tech...where would North Central drop? I'm just asking for an estimate from an expert? I'm guessing 15 or worse.

[Pat Coleman]

The worst drops in our poll tend to be about 12 positions but keep in mind, too, that there are twice as many schools in Division III, so it's harder to get into the Top 25 in the first place.

[Mr. Ypsi]

And how about this for fairness:

USC beats Ohio State by 33 points and OSU dropped from #5 to #14. Oklahoma beats Texas Tech by 44 and the game wasn't even THAT close, and Texas Tech drops from #2 to #7. BULLSH!T...I'm now convinced none of these voters really know what's going on. Seriously. Texas Tech deserved to drop 10 spots after that performance. For crying out loud, Oklahoma was a 1/2 yard from putting 70 on them.

Pat,
If UMHB beat North Central like Oklahoma beat Texas Tech...where would North Central drop? I'm just asking for an estimate from an expert? I'm guessing 15 or worse.

Adam, you're totally overlooking the timing.  When OSU got squashed by USC, there was very little 2008 data available.  By the Time Texas Tech got massacred, they already had some VERY impressive recent victories.

Dropping drastically early in the season should be no real surprise.  By late in the season there is a much more complete 'body of work' to call on, and one game (however lop-sided) doesn't, and shouldn't, count for as much.

As for your specific example to Pat, if MUC stomped NCC it would be in the national semi-final.  No way would NCC drop all the way to 15!   (Besides, I think the voters by now have a special 'Mt. Union clause' - getting stomped by them is not much of a disgrace!)

[SaintsFAN]

um, first... Ty Willingham was a mistake... and they took out the garbage when they got rid of him.  Like it or not --- color or no color... he deserved to be fired.  Look at what he's done at Washington... more like what he's undone at Washington.  0-11 in 2008? 

The thing that complicates in the case of Weis is the fact they gave him a huge extension following the close game in 2005 with USC.  $20 million is the buyout.  He's not going anywhere unless all the Catholic Churches start taking up a collection for this at each Sunday Mass.

Weis has been bad... but I've had time to think today and change for the sake of change will not help.  He's got really good talent there.  Make him change offensive coordinators and then if he sucks again early next season then cut him loose. 

Hopefully UC steps up with Brian Kelly and gets kind of a hometown discount.  Kelly can win the Big East yearly... and his family LOVES Cincinnati.  Going to Tennessee will not be smart... all the pressure to win... of a whole state?  I bet once Cincy steps up with a really good contract offer... he's signed-sealed-delivered.  He can be king of Cincy.  UT will chew up most Coaches... and he knows that.