FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

KYGrizzly · December 08, 2008, 12:56:30 PM

Very true Adam. Trust me from experience, there is no trouble ever finding a new hangout.

KYGrizzly · December 08, 2008, 01:34:43 PM

What is everybody's take on the BCS Championship Bowl game this year. Did they get it right this year or is it proof that there should be some form of a playoff just like DII and DIII.

I think I know how the fans Texas would vote. I wish they would have matched Alabama and Texas against each other in one of the games.

SaintsFAN · December 08, 2008, 02:18:45 PM

I think they have the two teams that are playing the best right now.

I don't think you can make a case for any of the other teams, including Texas. Oklahoma is playing the best football right now against great competition.

Adam Sayer · December 09, 2008, 12:44:21 PM

The goal of the BCS is to get the best 2 teams in the Nat'l Championship game. I think that is the case this year. I like how everyone wants to throw around the head to head to include Texas, but if you do that, then you must take into account Texas Tech...but no one wants to do that. I don't understand why. They have just as much to the argument as anyone else. If Texas was playing, then Tech could argue that isn't fair because they won. Since you can't take into account the H2H, then you take into account when you lost. Oklahoma lost the earliest and as a result, was able to make up ground. We've said all along that it's ok to lose...as long as you lose early.

I don't like the BCS, but this year the two best teams are playing for the Nat'l Championship. Running up the score or not, putting up the points Oklahoma did the last 6 weeks is impressive...as Kevin stated, against "quality" competition. However, anyone who still argues the BCS is a playoff system because it creates a playoff from the regular season should be committed to a mental institution.

I will say Boise State should be in a BCS game over Ohio State. They scheduled a decent team outside of conference play and beat them (#17 Oregon) and other than that game, they have averaged beating teams by 29 points. They have also beaten 5 teams who will be playing in Bowl Games...though I think that's kind of a moot point considering College football's practice of rewarding 6-6 and 7-5 teams with Bowl Games....whereas they would rather give a 10-2 a BCS bowl over a 12-0 team??? God love the almighty dollar!

GrizPride · December 09, 2008, 02:41:48 PM

Isnt this what is great about the D3 playoffs??? FC would probably have been in a bowl comparable to the Gator Bowl or Alamo Bowl, but proved themselves to be apart the elite 8 and therefore would have been a BCS bowl. Same goes for Wheaton, heck they wouldve been in the motor city bowl, look at them now!

Stoops has a good point, if you look head to head, yes Texas beat OU, but Texas Tech as also 11-1, and Tech beat Texas if you want to look at head to head. Its a sticky situation. I do think the Sooners and Gators are playing the best ball right now!! Give a plus one at least please.

Mugsy · December 09, 2008, 02:50:31 PM

Quote from: GrizPride on December 09, 2008, 02:41:48 PM
Isnt this what is great about the D3 playoffs??? FC would probably have been in a bowl comparable to the Gator Bowl or Alamo Bowl, but proved themselves to be apart the elite 8 and therefore would have been a BCS bowl. Same goes for Wheaton, heck they wouldve been in the motor city bowl, look at them now!

Come on now... Wheaton could have made the Roady's Humanitarian bowl, the magicJack St. Petersburg bowl, the R+L Carriers New Orleans bowl, or the Papajohns.com bowl. Give Wheaton some credit...

wabashcpa · December 09, 2008, 03:49:15 PM

Quote from: GrizPride on December 08, 2008, 09:54:48 AM
I will try my best to keep them out of trouble!! No easy task indeed!

He is going to have to help me drop some of these lineman lbs off, so we will be hitting the tracks and weightrooms more frequently as opposed to the local hangouts...lets hope!

Don't let the folks running the Willard hear about this!

SaintsFAN · December 09, 2008, 04:03:59 PM

Is anyone else heading up to the National Semi-Finals at Mount Union on Saturday? I'm heading up on Friday night and will be calling the game with Matt Florjancic for D3football.com .

I think there's a group of people from post patterns meeting at a restaurant/bar in Alliance, hscoach is putting that together.

I was just interested to see if anyone else is going to be going up.

GrizPride · December 09, 2008, 04:25:57 PM

Quote from: Mugsy on December 09, 2008, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: GrizPride on December 09, 2008, 02:41:48 PM
Isnt this what is great about the D3 playoffs??? FC would probably have been in a bowl comparable to the Gator Bowl or Alamo Bowl, but proved themselves to be apart the elite 8 and therefore would have been a BCS bowl. Same goes for Wheaton, heck they wouldve been in the motor city bowl, look at them now!

Come on now... Wheaton could have made the Roady's Humanitarian bowl, the magicJack St. Petersburg bowl, the R+L Carriers New Orleans bowl, or the Papajohns.com bowl. Give Wheaton some credit...

OK OK OK Mugsy.....solid points, just thought it would sound better going from the Motor City Bowl to the Sugar/BCS Champ/Rose etc......hahahaha!!

KYGrizzly · December 09, 2008, 05:01:40 PM

Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 09, 2008, 04:03:59 PM
Is anyone else heading up to the National Semi-Finals at Mount Union on Saturday? I'm heading up on Friday night and will be calling the game with Matt Florjancic for D3football.com .

I think there's a group of people from post patterns meeting at a restaurant/bar in Alliance, hscoach is putting that together.

I was just interested to see if anyone else is going to be going up.

Will not be making the trip but will plan on listening in on your call of the game. Make sure you give GrizPride and the rest of the Grizzlies some airtime on Saturday.

Speaking of bars, I think I am going to stop at a bar after work and celebrate. We just received word we have gotten a 1.4Million dollar project we bid on yesterday.

Have a good night.

SaintsFAN · December 09, 2008, 05:29:06 PM

kygrizz,

cool. i think most of the people on this website will listen to the MUC call --they do a really nice and fair job of reporting what they are seeing.

Adam Sayer · December 10, 2008, 10:07:26 AM

I'd really like to go...and probably would with Kevin if I had the weekend off. We have a tournament up at Troy Christian unfortunately

At least I have a good team to work with.

Did anyone get Sports Illustrated's pictures of the year issue? They had a nice shot of current Mount Saint Joseph wrestler, Dustin Carter.

70_dc_alum · December 10, 2008, 12:56:33 PM

Quote from: GrizPride on December 09, 2008, 02:41:48 PM
Stoops has a good point, if you look head to head, yes Texas beat OU, but Texas Tech as also 11-1, and Tech beat Texas if you want to look at head to head. Its a sticky situation. I do think the Sooners and Gators are playing the best ball right now!! Give a plus one at least please.

i think i will take Mack's side. TT did win at home primetime environment on a last second nearly miracle set of plays. Oklahoma got their a$$es whooopped by Texas on a neutral field. yes a 10Pt game is a whooping UT dominated the second half.

it is all BS decided by humans. just like OSU laying an egg the last 2 years so there is a feeling among voters that they cant get to the big game which made their rankings week to week very odd. not that they deserved to be higher at the end of the year jsut the week to week did not make sense just like the week to week the last 3 on the UT OK flip floping a couple times.

personally i think OK and florida are probably right now a good number 1 and 2 becuase the points they put up. but do you really downplay Texas for not running up the score and throwing deep up 50-60 pts? the other thing Florida and OK would NOT put up 50 on the USC Defense they lost to Oregon State but thhey ended up being pretty good and that was a last second game to.

all i knnow is in D3 the top 4 teams right now are still playing ball with an equal shot at the title...well only if you consider Wheaton playing in Alliance equal

GrizPride · December 10, 2008, 01:28:47 PM

DC Alum

I like your points as well. I was just saying I do understand what Stoops is saying if you just want to look at head to head, points aside. I do think it is the right national championship matchup.

Just a plus one system would help us even more though! USC, UF, OK, and Texas........but then we have Bama and PSU....geez! Maybe it should be a year by year basis, all the undefeated and one loss teams in a tourney? 8 team playoff only takes 3 weeks! Start it the week before the new year, semis on new years, championship on the normal date!

SaintsFAN · December 10, 2008, 01:49:42 PM

GrizPride,

Don't worry about DC70... when he's wrong, we just remind him that he's A. Defiance grad B. an ex-offensive lineman.

Actually, he does bring up a point about running up the score and D3's "Final Four", though I think Wheaton will put up some offense. Something like a 45-24 final on Saturday in Alliance.

Sayer, you can always call in sick...