FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Adam Sayer]

I just mailed out some recruiting info sheets to Defiance and RHIT earlier this week. I hope MSJ bounces back. Last year was the first year since 2001 that they lost more than 2 conference games. I don't know what they have but last year they were a play of two from winning 2-3 extra games. I think an 8-2/9-1 season isn't out of the question by any means. I know nothing of FC and I think TMC may be a little better right now. If they beat FC, they could walk into the Bridge Bowl at 9-0. RHIT has to show me a little more.

[SaintsFAN]

I just mailed out some recruiting info sheets to Defiance and RHIT earlier this week. I hope MSJ bounces back. Last year was the first year since 2001 that they lost more than 2 conference games. I don't know what they have but last year they were a play of two from winning 2-3 extra games. I think an 8-2/9-1 season isn't out of the question by any means. I know nothing of FC and I think TMC may be a little better right now. If they beat FC, they could walk into the Bridge Bowl at 9-0. RHIT has to show me a little more.

its all proven on the field.  I can't wait to attend the Bridge Bowl at the junk-bond funded stadium in Delhi. 

[70_dc_alum]

SaintsFan i think those are known as high yield bonds (you know that can yield a high return on investment...kind of like a mortgage backed security).  would not want people to get the wrong impression -- Signed, Wall Street


was looking at the HCAC preseason poll and while the top is easy i was actually a little suprised to see how low DC got ranked with Andy and Manchester picked to finish above them.  i would think this adds a little motivation for the DC team...it is not like they lost a bunch of all americans from last years team that held there own in conference play.  what do i know i am just a fat bastard in southern ohio!!

[GRIZ_BACKER]

I just saw the D3 and HCAC pre-season polls.  While i haven't asked around, I can honestly say I have no clue who is going to QB this season and how well they might do.  The primary backup last year looked ok but only really played in the 4th quarter and ran the clock.  He is quick but no one has really seen him throw and he is bit on the small side.

FC is going to be tested right out of the gate with Baldwin-Wallace on the road.  While the OAC posters are not giving BW a lot of love, they do have a 4 year starter at QB and 28 returning lettermen.  FC struggled some with them last year in Franklin.

If I had to predict only using what I know on paper FC may come up short at BW. (not clear on how good Butler and Trine are for games 2 and 3).  I still think FC can and should win the HCAC as they mature over the season.  The O line is a wall so maybe FC will run the ball more.  No one knows how the defense will look.  On the bright side Leonard has kids who haven't played a lot who will step up.

Regardless, I am excited to see the season drawing near.

[SaintsFAN]

I just saw the D3 and HCAC pre-season polls.  While i haven't asked around, I can honestly say I have no clue who is going to QB this season and how well they might do.  The primary backup last year looked ok but only really played in the 4th quarter and ran the clock.  He is quick but no one has really seen him throw and he is bit on the small side.

FC is going to be tested right out of the gate with Baldwin-Wallace on the road.  While the OAC posters are not giving BW a lot of love, they do have a 4 year starter at QB and 28 returning lettermen.  FC struggled some with them last year in Franklin.

If I had to predict only using what I know on paper FC may come up short at BW. (not clear on how good Butler and Trine are for games 2 and 3).  I still think FC can and should win the HCAC as they mature over the season.  The O line is a wall so maybe FC will run the ball more.  No one knows how the defense will look.  On the bright side Leonard has kids who haven't played a lot who will step up.

Regardless, I am excited to see the season drawing near.

If MSJ can find a signal caller, they will win the HCAC in 2009.  They have alot returning experience-wise.  I think experience will win this conference in 2009.  If Franklin tries the running attack this year they will play right into the hands of both Defiance and Mount St Joe, who will beat them because their defenses will stop the run.  The advantage Franklin has is they run the offense that Hanover dominated the HCAC with under C. Wayne Perry. 

Also.... Trine is picked 2nd in the MIAA to follow up their playoff season of 2008. 

[OC_SID]

Also.... Trine is picked 2nd in the MIAA to follow up their playoff season of 2008. 

Trine is picked first.

[SaintsFAN]

Also.... Trine is picked 2nd in the MIAA to follow up their playoff season of 2008. 

Trine is picked first.

I stand corrected. 


Trine will be a better test for Franklin than Baldwin Wallace will be...

[Adam Sayer]

This will be the HCAC's 11th year of existence and looking back through some of the old All-Conference member's, I thought it would be cool to put out a HCAC All-Decade Team (from 1999-2008). If you all think this is dumb, then whatever...but I'll start off by listing some offensive members from MSJ and their positions as well as the QBs and who knows...after a couple days, weeks, whatever, we could put together a solid thing here.

Overall, I think the 3 QB's on this team should be Rupp (Franklin), Dietz (Hanover), and Steele (Anderson) in that order. The reason why I put Rupp first is simple...FC won playoff games. Dietz is ahead of Steele simply because of his success after college. Their numbers while in college are too close to call so I needed something.

MSJ Players:

Doug Anderson (RB), Mike Lovell (RB)
Andy Wellendorf (WR)
Steve Wergers (OL), Chris Haefertepen (OL), Adam Sayer (OL) - I do think the other 2 are better than I was but I think I was pretty damn good too

[Adam Sayer]

Alright...I decided to research this a little (in terms of OLinemen):

There have been 2 people in HCAC history who have been 4 x HCAC selections. They are Sam Weaver (Anderson - 3 1st teams, 1 Hon. Men.) and Spencer Fulk (Manchester- 2 2nd teams and 2 Hon. Men.).

There is only 1 O-lineman in HCAC history who was a Honorable Mention, 2nd Team, and 1st Team honoree and he is Ben Haas (Defiance).

There have been 31 people who have been named All-HCAC 2 or more times. Of those 31, only 11 have been named All-HCAC 3 or more times.

I gave a point value to each award (1st team is worth 3 points, 2nd team is worth 2 points and Honorable Mention is worth 1 point). The maximum number of points any person could receive would be 12 (4-1st Team HCAC selections). Here is what I got from least to greatest

1. Sam Weaver (Anderson) - 10 points
T-2. Ben McKenney (Franklin) - 9 points
      Pete Needler (Anderson)
T-4. Kevin Baumann (Defiance) - 8 points
      Andrew Prater (Anderson)
      Chris Hafertepen (MSJ)
T-7. Brian Kmitta (Anderson) - 7 points
      Adam Sayer (MSJ)
T-9. Steve Wergers (MSJ) - 6 points
      Ben Haas (Defiance)
       Spencer Fulk (Manchester)
      Seth Quals (Franklin)

Others (People with 5 points): Clint Fox (Bluffton), Rick Orr (Bluffton), Chad Corbin (MSJ), Josh Smith (Hanover), Vaughn Blackburn (Hanover), James Fay (Bluffton), Chad Schenkle (Franklin)
     

[SaintsFAN]

who is that Adam Sayer guy??  Never heard of him...

you can't forget:

Will Castleberry RB
Nick Rice LB
Mike Strassel OG

they were on Thomas More's HCAC Championship teams in 2000 and 2001

[70_dc_alum]

with kevin bauman you also have to consider when he started as a freshman DC was still in the MIAA!! So that 8pts was only with 3 of his 4 yrs in HCAC. If you look at defense it has to start with Nate Schaublin of DC.

I think they did do some sort of an all decade thing but it might have been best of all sports. Schaublin was telling me about some banquet he went to a year or so ago

[Adam Sayer]

Fill it in....

First Team

QB's
Chad Rupp (Franklin)


HB?
Mike Lovell (MSJ)
Tyson Goings (Bluffton)


WR/TE?
Andy Wellendorf (MSJ)


OL
Sam Weaver (Anderson)
Ben McKenney (Franklin)
Pete Needler (Anderson)
Kevin Baumann (Defiance)
Andrew Prater (Anderson)
Chris Hafertepen (MSJ)

[dc_has_been]

Dillon from DC could be slotted in the WR/TE category.

[tricksnaps56]

I would include Anthony Weigleb, a center from Hanover in the OL list.  He's the only OL from the HCAC to be named to the AFCA All-American team.  That was during the 1999 season.

[SaintsFAN]

I would include Anthony Weigleb, a center from Hanover in the OL list.  He's the only OL from the HCAC to be named to the AFCA All-American team.  That was during the 1999 season.

trick --- sorry to hear about your father.  He was a good man.