FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[victorybell_57]

i like how they kept referring to the testicles of the boise st playcaller who would call any play in any spot. i guess in order to be a man you need a pair of nuts.

[SaintsFAN]

No news on the Coach Search.  I think they originally said the target was by the end of the week. 

By the way, your hook and ladder play....what year was that?

[FCC Approved Bland Name]

Yeah, you know who called that play SaintsFan.  That was one of the most frustrating games I've been involved in (2002 Bridge Bowl).  The Hook and Ladder was the only way I could get someone free in the slop.  It worked great and should have been a TD but you know that TMC field.  It has high and low spots (and a lot of mud) and my receiver lost his balance and could get back up to speed after a 70 yard gain and got caught. 

[SaintsFAN]

I figured you did call that play.  I think I remember it, but not sure.  We were pretty drunk.  What year was when I saw both you and Venard up in Mariemont?

[victorybell_57]

even the old lady in the gym watched the game last night was excited about it.

[formerd3db]

FCC and others:

I would agree that the Boise St./Oklahoma game was perhaps one of the greatest I've ever seen.  There is one DIII game I personally played in that would rank up with that and another one that I would suggest might be ranked up there with that was the multiple OT game that Kentucky played in recent years- do you all remember that one??!! And don't forget, of course, Doug Flutie's "Hail Mary"!  But, yes the game last night just might be one that could rate at the top of the list.  I'm still in a semi-daze - that was just one unbelievable finish and especially, two of the last three Boise scoring plays (the one that tied it i.e. hook and ladder- old flea flicker and the 2 pt. fake pass/blind side pitch winner of course).

[FCC Approved Bland Name]

I think the Boise game is great for college football.  It will further the playoff debate.  I think you have to make sure that a qualification process is in order to put these smaller programs in the BCS or playoff system (ie top 10 ranking, top 20 schedule or opponents), but if everyone believes that they've earned the right to play, then a playoff is the only way.  I don't see BSU getting a #1 or #2 BCS ranking anytime soon.

"You can't be the man until you beat the man".  Well you have to be given a shot every once in a while and Utah 2002 and Boise 2006 are good examples.  If it wasn't for an onside kick and blocked field goal against Oregon, Oklahoma might be playing on Monday against OSU at 12-1 with only an October 7th loss to Texas.  Boise beat that team.................with Adrian Peterson.

Now, forget about the Boise argument for a minute and plug in USC and you know we need a playoff.  The winner of OSU-Florida needs to be playing USC after beating Michigan.   

DUH!

[Adam Sayer]

Even by most people's accounts, Boise State still wouldn't have been in an 8-team playoff (which is what most consider). The 8 teams would have been Ohio State, Florida, Michigan, USC, LSU, Wisconsin, Louisville and Oklahoma. If you were to grant the Conference champs from the BCS conferences then see ya next year Wisconsin and welcome Wake Forest. Regardless...No Boise State. I suggested an NFL style 12-team playoff. The top 4 seeds recieve first round byes.

Oklahoma got hosed during the Oregon game twice by blatent officiating mistakes. I think Saintsfan is right. If they beat Oregon, then 12-1 Oklahoma would be playing Ohio State, not Florida. They lost earlier than Florida and happend to also play and win a conference championship game the same weekend.

I just think College football this year happend to have great equality. There is no team (or 2 teams) that stands out far and beyond everyone else. Everyone is together.

Word around according to SEC teams is that LSU was the best team in the conference, not Florida.

[victorybell_57]

the solution is 10 game seasons for all DI and an all out playoff battle royale. the problem is that the big boys that pack a 106,000 seat stadium don't want it empty for one or two weeks it could have been full. read the lion in autumn, joe paterno football and it's clearly laid out from joepa himself.

boise rocks, i hope they win a national title in a year.

[SaintsFAN]

We'll see about LSU tonight...and I was forced to watch them play at Tenn., they were lucky to pull out the win.  Russell threw more "wrong team passes" than Richard Simmons in a night club....he was lucky to not have been intercepted 5 times.

  If ND starts fast they have a chance...

[victorybell_57]

hmmmm, i would say lsu has a much better chance of winning that game than ND, but let's let them play it out and see. i just think lsu has some very fast athletes at a lot of positions.

[70_dc_alum]

i think the stat they said last night is LSU is outscoring opponents 150 - 20 in the 1st quarter.  ND better come out fast or they will have a mouthful of they bayou t-bag

[victorybell_57]

wow, LSU

[Adam Sayer]

The stat last night was they outscored ND 21-0 in the second half and rushed for almost 250 yards. Maybe the SEC teams are right, LSU is the best team in the conference. I do wonder why Weiss elected to go for it on the first 4th down? His defense is horrible and he was on his own 35/40 yard line? I realize it's a bowl game and you let it all hang out (ala Boise State) but at some point you have to be smart and smart is punting the football. Even if he gets the first, I still think it's too much of a risk to try that early in the game because if you don't get it, you're essentially giving the other team the ball to start both halves and put you in a hole. In this case, if Charlie Weiss punts the ball, ND goes into halftime most likely tied 14-14, not down.

I also think ND's defense has regressed since last year. This is a group who has played together for 2 years now, was supposed to come together as Seniors and get better after last year. They have given up 35 or more points 4 times this year and are giving up on average 24 points per game. Last year they averaged giving up 21 points per game. 90% of the time, units get better as they get more experience and play together for an extended period of time. Notre Dame's didn not.

People claim Brady Quinn will possibly be the 1st round pick. Before the game, Charlie Weiss said that in his opinion, Brady Quinn didn't perform up to expectations because of the pressure of the Heisman Trophy. If he can't handle that, then how will he be able to handle life in the Pro's and if he is the 1st pick, the pressure of those expectations? Look at all the pressure on Mario Williams and he was a DE. Brady Quinn is not a big game quarterback and cannot win when it counts. The only reason why this kid gets any publicity is because of where he plays and who he played for. Playing at Notre Dame doesn't automatically make him good and I think people forget that. I think whoever drafts him will be getting the next Ryan Leaf or David Klingler.

The SEC is 5-3 in bowl games this year but are 0-2 against the Big 10. The Big 10 is 2-4 in bowl games only beating SEC.

[victorybell_57]

it would be smart for ND to start recruiting some players and to quit playing navy and army each week if they want to compete again.