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[Adam Sayer]

WTF???

Racers...let me know how it is. I've never been, but plan on it sometime soon.

[Adam Sayer]

So far, things have been interesting. I think the Browns taking Thomas has shook things up for the first 10 picks. Suprises...Brady Quinn still sitting after 11 picks (doesn't suprise me, but suprises the 'experts' and Teddy Ball Game being the 9th selection for the Dolphins. I think his diversity is the reason he was selected. Other than the QB aspect (which he does have a little exp at QB) he's essentially a Randel-El...can run the reverses, play WR and return kicks and Randel El did very well with the Steelers. I think if the Dolphins get Trent Green, which may be inevidable now that they didn't take Quinn, I think Tedy Ball Game will fit in nicely with the system and as Jimmy T says, special teams is the most important aspect of football. aka Devin Hester and the games he changed for Da Bears last year...Teddy Ginn??? same thing.

[Adam Sayer]

Cleveland gives up their 2nd round pick and their 1st round pick in 2007 to get Brady Quinn at pick #22. They now have 2 of the top 5 players (as selected by Mel Kiper). Personally, I think Quinn will be your typical average QB, and none better, but with Jamall Lewis at HB, the new O-line (Joe Thomas 2007, and Steinbach-former Bengal) and Braylon Edwards and Winslow at WR/TE, Cleveland will have an offense that will challenge. They have been working on the defense in FA, watch out in 2007 for Cleveland. Next year they will be alright, but I hope they don't get anxious and put Quinn in ahead of schedule. Smart move by the Browns though. Lets see if they can get some quality in the 2nd day.

[Adam Sayer]

Bengals select Leopn Hall. Not a good pick in my opinion. I know he was high on a lot of Draft boards, but high profile WR in college such as Teddy Ball Game and Dwayne Jarrett have made him look like an average Corner. I think the Bengals would have done better with Michael Griffin or Reggie Nelson, both of whom I believe are better than Leon Hall.

[Adam Sayer]

49ers Trading their #1 in 2007 for a late round #1 this year??? Not what I would have done.

Where is everyon else?


You know what my drunk-ass has been thinking about. Everyone puts all this $$ money and efort into the best picks (#1, 2 ,3 ) but majority of the top players are late rounders. (3rd round and up). MY explaination is that these guys rely more on technique than overall athletic ability. Tom Brady, Housch, Colston, just name a small few. I'd rather have an O-linemen who has the proper kick-slide, keeps his hips low, and can bench press a volkswagon, tha an O-linemen who passes all these speed/quickness tests. Why??? how often does an O-linemen need to move more than 2 yards. If he can get into his pass set and press the guy off of him and has proper footwook, who gives a rats a$$ how fast he his. In the run game in The League, it's all position blocking. Nobody cares if you can pancake everone. Get a body on a body and beat your opponent mano e' mano. That's what it is all about.

[victorybell_57]

if god really hates cleveland, brady quinn and joe thomas will be eaten by hyper aggressive evil marlins on a fishing trip.

this is the best opening round for the browns since they nailed down a guy named kosar. if these guys suck, i am going to say the city is being punished by art modell's voodoo witch doctor.

OL should be pretty good this year. thomas, steinback, bently, tucker and andruzzi (i think). charlie frye sucks and should be sent to siberia. derek anderson, well i hate this guy. he reminds me of a boss i had in high school that had a super deep bass filled voice and no personality. he may fun, but that image won't leave me. he has to go or made to leave.

i am not sold on jamal lewis, he better come out ballin. braylon, shut up and run routes. soldier, start wearing camo, a lot.

my main concern is their defense. they are so sluggish sometimes that i want to drink poison during the games. i have never seen a team just get grabbed like little boys rushing the qb and get bitched around like that. they look tired, weak, slow, non manly, etc. i hope the next pic they get some sort of really angry and mean dude. let's get some guy who saw his family go down by keyser soze and wants to just hit the hell out of everybody. that would be nice.

mel kiper, is getting on my nerves. the second he brings up the sleeper from up state montana who played 8 man football at little Cowboy Juco Arts School, i am calling espn and complaining.

i do love this day, even though it's stressful, i love it so.

[Superfoot Wallace]

Okay, okay, sorry for the Julia Child's power training power lunch hour earlier.

First, Victory, how can you hate on Charlie Frye?  Any guy that can bumble and stumble his way that far down the field makes my hero list purely for the sake of not being smart enough to stay down.  Really thought he was gonna get cleaved like Dre Bledsoe for a minute there.

[segue]  Only braver or stupid run run I've seen involved the second ND Brooks Brother circa 1992.  Dude gets absolutely wacked and maintains his directional momentum and balance entering the endzone unconcious from at least seven yards out.

Cleveland's oline could be very good, hopefully they are deep and a veteran tackle is there to tutor Thomas and a veteran guard plays next to him to solidify his confidence in knowing the blocks to make.  Nothing worse than paralysis through analysis.  But with Jamal Lewis it could simply be K.I..S.S.  White knuckle all the way.  That speed at tackle reeks of GT counter and counter boot.

Andruzzi? 'Nuff said.  Bucketsallday for the firefighters' brother.

Which brings us to Herr Quinn.  Not many thoughts here, other than Cleveland is a Golden Domer town in my mind and the weather is similar to South Bend.  Domes are for sissies.  Think Frye will still carry some weight besides the clipboard, but this is the best fit for Quinn in my esteem.  Whether it is the best fit for Cleveland remains to be seen, after all the Golden Domers say I look like Kosar.  Kid is tall enough to look over a big line in playaction without windows, fast enough to boot a little and strong enough to take hits.  Expect a lot of handoffs and checkdown passing.

With Crennell being a defensive guy, expect Cleveland to use many backs to grind and find a smurf receiver, whether on the roster or in the draft to help tilt open and boundary flank when Charger JR is at end instead of motion flank to two splits. 

Might we see some Marchibrodaesque looks for an Hback to offset full as well?  That would be the coup d'etat.  Like Leonard beating Wing T teams with Sally in his own backyard.  There's Modell's witchdoctor Victory, and I've got his uglies.

Cincinatti? 

Safeties don't play corner Sayer.  So much potential on that team it is sickening.  The Pacers of the NFL, but managing to keep the roster intact.


signed,
Seargents Pepper and Johnson

[M and L]

Sayer:

As always i have to agree with you on the Bengals first round pick about the kid from Michigan.  I would like to see them take a conner or safty, put not to sure about that kid. 

What about the second pick a rb.  There a dime a dozen.  I was hoping they would still go defense and pick an out side LB.  I know there short some what short at rb with henry always hurt.

Question, was the DT out of U of M still on the board?

[M and L]

It feels good to be back on the board

[victorybell_57]

the dt out of michigan only had 25 tackles his senior year. not that productive. more hype than animal.

i hate frye because he is too thick to see the reads. i am glad he is too thick to know he got hammered 10 plays in a row to know how to get scared, but come on... he is now future qb of a franchise. big ben he is not.

the ol could be good, very good next year. olmen adjust better to the nfl than skill guys for some reason. i think if you are good at wrestling and throwing around guys, you eventually keep being good at it. it's harder to adjust to coverages and routes than whipping somebody's butt. all that being said, cleveland will love quinn like kosar. both wanted to come very badly and revive the once proud franchise.

their defesne needs help. i love the pic of michigan's corner to the bengals. good CHARACTER guy and i think he will be much more mature than the whack jobs on the roster. day 2 will be great for the bengals. they will get a few guys who will scrap to stay on a team and do what needs to be done. in essence, good CHARACTER  guy who will play balls out.

[70_dc_alum]

bengals went with the best on the board in rd2. Dtackle and linaebacker from UM were both gone (i think woodley went to Pittjust before Cincy).  there was a huge run on D just before the pick and there was not a lot of great value on D sitting there.  Irons is first round talent and Cincy needs a backup everydown back cause they kill Rudi every sunday and Perry has been useless because of injury the last couple years.

[70_dc_alum]

MacLeod - not sure if you were just beign funny but if you really are dieting the best resource i have found and is free is www.sparkpeople.com

does nutrition and workout tracking for you.

have gone from 345 at christmas to 280 right now

[Superfoot Wallace]

Thanks DC70, checked it out, seems pretty cool.  There was a time I weighed in the three hundreds.  Most who knew me in college that first year only remember me at 200 that year.  Swung a hundred pounds in one academic calendar year, both ways, 200 to 300 to 200. 

Am not in it so much for the weight loss or inches, as much as am trying to get stronger without getting fluffier and don't want my energy levels spiking.  On my diet it is more about what you eat than what you don't eat. 

I train Bulgarian, and it is less about calorie in and calorie out and more about keeping the battery charged to sustain kilojoules and learn how to call on them.

Big thing is the content of that first meal sets up the metabolism for successive meals of the day.  Next most important thing is eating protein before going to sleep to prime for that first meal.  The rest of it is just gravy.  mmm mmm gravy tastes good

Victory, am not saying Frye is the future of the franchise.  Maybe the Kubiak to Quinn's Elway.  Just gagged on my own vomit with that statement.  Knowing that my favorite QB is Jon KItna should tell you something right off the bat.

It is just that power running teams' quarterbacks get teed off on and eventually the backup gets some time.  Think Rypien and Williams.  Simms and Hostettler.  Kelly and Reich.

Hogeboom, Trudeau and Tupa.  LMAO, guess they're the quarterbacks that got teed off on with or without attendant power running game.  Axe that logic.

Okay, okay, so maybe Frye is more akin to Tupa than Reich or Hostetler, but come on, dude has a serious set of brass cajones.  I don't like quarterbacks very much at all and I like this dude.

signed,
Buster Douglas on Sega

[INQBScout]

Maybe the Kubiak to Quinn's Elway.  Just gagged on my own vomit with that statement.  Knowing that my favorite QB is Jon KItna should tell you something right off the bat.

The most entertaining posts on the site, bar none.

[frank uible]

Graham and Ratterman. Paul Brown had some great stories about George Ratterman.