FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[panthersfan]

The DC vs Rose Hulman is the game of the week in the HCAC IMO.  Both teams playing well and coming off big wins.  I have to be selfish and hope Rose wins but it oughta be a good one.

[dc_has_been]

I agree panthersfan, except for who you want to win .  I am also happy to see a Panther poster on the board.

I have a hypothetical question for all those that pay attention to this board.  If DC & Hanover wins out there would be a three way tie for the HCAC crown.  Who would be the outright champ? Do they go to overall record, because Hanover and Franklin would have the same record, or do they go with margin of victory?

[panthersfan]

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I have a hypothetical question for all those that pay attention to this board.  If DC & Hanover wins out there would be a three way tie for the HCAC crown.  Who would be the outright champ? Do they go to overall record, because Hanover and Franklin would have the same record, or do they go with margin of victory?

Good question...  Maybe the NCAA regional rankings used for playoffs?

[GRIZ_BACKER]

couldn't find the tie breaker procedures on the conf website.  odds are that Franklin wont lose to HC in Franklin.  Just a hunch.  Carthage certainly cost FC a home field and a top 4 seed.  I still think they might be a five and get a game with a team like Trine or Wittenberg (winnable) maybe host or play Bash if Bash wins out (not likely)

Wheaton may get a 4 at 9-1 due to strength of schedule.   hard to say.  FC should be no worse than 6 based on the scoring differentials.  who knows  just my opinion

[dc_has_been]

Griz, I do agree Franklin is not going to lose any of their remaining games. 
In regards to where they get seeded is going to be interesting.  It will depend whether they move someone out of the region to see if Franklin can get a home game.  Right now Mount, NC and Trine would be the top 3 in the region and then it would be followed by either Witt, ONU or possibly Franklin for the final home spot.

[Adam Sayer]

The last time I checked, which was a few years back, the HCAC used the Big 10 tie breaker procedure.

[SaintsFAN]

The last time I checked, which was a few years back, the HCAC used the Big 10 tie breaker procedure.

I'm pretty sure you haven't looked at it this year, Sayer..

[dc_has_been]

That's cold

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Funny stuff

[altor]

Here is the HCAC Tie-Breaker scenario:

1. Which team won in their head to head competition?

2. How the tied teams fared against next team in conference standings.  Continue down in the conference standings until the tie is broken.

3. Number of conference wins by the conference opponents you defeated.  Team whose opponents had the highest number of wins breaks the tie.

4. Number of conference wins by the conference opponents you lost to.  Team whose opponents had the highest number of wins breaks the tie.

5. Total winning percentage by non-conference opponents.

6. The team which has not gone to the NCAA Football Playoffs for the longest period of time (Big 10 Rose Bowl Rule).

7. Rankings from the AFCA Division III National Poll.

8. Blind Draw.  One lot shall be marked AQ and all others will be blank.  The draw will be conducted by the conference Commissioner and SID at the Heartland Conference Office.  The draw will be made in alphabetical order of the tied schools.  A coach or representative from each school involved may attend the drawing.

Here's the list as it was in 2007.  No idea if they've actually fixed it since then.  I'll save you all my rant about how ridiculous they are as written above.  You can go back and read the archive if you want.

[altor]

What?  You all go out trick-or-treating tonight?  No chatter at all on game day?  Man we are a sad bunch.

DC wins by 20 over RHIT.
MSJ was actually losing to Manchester at one point before they turned it around and won 24-13
Hanover holds off a late Bluffton surge and continues to control their own conference co-championship destiny.
Do I need to mention the Franklin/Anderson score?

ATN this week had the HCAC as "a possible three way-tie."  Does anybody more than 5 miles north of the Ohio River really believe this to be true?

[dc_has_been]

Hanover doesn't stand a chance against Franklin, but I would actually love a Panther victory as long as DC wins out their remaining two games.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Here is some chatter re: Franklin vs Anderson.   The only reason the score wasn't in the 70s or even 80 is that the Ravens down 62-3 midway in the third kept their starters in against the FC second and third string and mustered up a few decent plays in the fourth.

From a statistical standpoint Anderson completed more passes (31) than the Griz attempted (25) and ran 20 more plays (89 to 69).  The difference maker is that FC scored three time on defense.

I for one am glad to see Hanover scraping together a set of wins and putting themselves in a position for a meaningful conference ending game. Reality and stats/paper says FC administers another weekly HCAC beat down but something tells me the Panthers are going to keep it respectable.  FC has to find a way to get by Earlham first.

The GRIZ are happy to stay under the D3 national radar.  I am personally hoping that we get Wabash in the playoffs.

Congrats to the Yellow Jackets as well.  Defiance appears on the right track.

[maripp2002]

I think most Wallies would be happy to see Franklin in the playoffs, especially because that would mean Wabash is in the playoffs. Personally, I am hungry for a Franklin v. Trine game. Right now probably two of the hottest offenses in the country duking it out would be just plain fun to watch.

On a side note, assuming Wabash wins out and goes to the playoffs I see a trip to Naperville or Wheaton on the cards.

[dc_has_been]

I do agree that Franklin will beat Hanover, but due to their week 1 loss and weak conference they will probably get a tough road game or possible tough game against a pool c team at home.
If Wabash wins out the next two weeks that would be huge for them.  They would have to play two very solid games in a row.  Those two games are already like playoff games.