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GRIZ_BACKER

Quote from: MasterJedi on September 11, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
I was looking forward to some Franklin fan's analysis of the game, especially from those that were there or who watched the game but so far there's been none. I honestly thought the game would be closer, like bleedperuple's prediction of 38-17 and was surprised when Franklin didn't score. So, if possible, could some of you Franklin fan's bring in your analysis of the game?

Most of first quarter looked fairly even (UWW was forced to punt twice!!) until FC turned the ball over twice near start of second and the wheels just came off.  UWW was effective in the air and that opened up the ground game even more.  At nearly every position UWW players are just a bit faster, stronger, and bigger than most team's and they execute well and don't make a lot of mistakes.  FC also lost one of their two best WRs to injury midway through the second.  Good experience overall IMO as the FC kids got first hand experience of the type of effort and talent it will take compete with a UWW or Mt Union (FC plays MUC in a home/away series in 2012 and 2013). 
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wabashcpa

Nice article on the tailgate scene at Franklin.  Especially liked the Franklin logo on the grilling surface!

FCGrizzliesGrad

It's going to be nice to have some wins in the conference this week ;D

Game of the week has to be Hanover @ Defiance I think... two teams looking to unseat Franklin at the top and should be a good game

Hopefully Franklin gets over last weekend and can look like a dominant team at Bluffton.

Plus Manchester @ Earlham could end up determining who finishes at the bottom this year.

And to make sure everyone gets some HCAC love, Mount at Anderson and Rose playing what I think will be a close game at Kalamazoo (are we sure they're not an HCAC team? This is their third game this year against us)
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Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

Thunder44

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 14, 2011, 04:22:50 AM
It's going to be nice to have some wins in the conference this week ;D

Game of the week has to be Hanover @ Defiance I think... two teams looking to unseat Franklin at the top and should be a good game

Hopefully Franklin gets over last weekend and can look like a dominant team at Bluffton.

Plus Manchester @ Earlham could end up determining who finishes at the bottom this year.

And to make sure everyone gets some HCAC love, Mount at Anderson and Rose playing what I think will be a close game at Kalamazoo (are we sure they're not an HCAC team? This is their third game this year against us)

It should be interesting to see which of these two teams will learn the most from their 2 losses, and put it together this week.  From other threads and game stats, it appears that Defiance is having trouble getting any momentum on Offense.  Hanover has struggled offensively at times as well, and needs to build some consistency.

Might come down to who wins the Special Teams battle.  We'll see.

panthersfan

Quote from: Thunder44 on September 14, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
... Might come down to who wins the Special Teams battle...

They've been able to move the ball against two great teams and play a pretty good defense.  They had 100 yds more in total offense than Centre and lost by 2 TDS.  They only had 80 yds less in total offense than Thomas More but got blown out by 31 points.

With that being said, they need to put that pistol away and quit shooting themselves in the foot with it.  If so, Hanover will win some ball games.

FCGrizzliesGrad

Quote from: seventiesraider on September 14, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
Twenty Six Bucks?  Franklin HCAC Championship Ring
At least they waited till they're not eligible anymore *cough*Ohio State*cough*... but there's no way I'd give up the ring for that cheap.
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GRIZ_BACKER

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 14, 2011, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on September 14, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
Twenty Six Bucks?  Franklin HCAC Championship Ring
At least they waited till they're not eligible anymore *cough*Ohio State*cough*... but there's no way I'd give up the ring for that cheap.

Interesting.  If I knew the circumstances (i.e. hard times, etc). I would consider buying it and returning it to them. Maybe it was lost or stolen?
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seventiesraider

Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on September 14, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 14, 2011, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on September 14, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
Twenty Six Bucks?  Franklin HCAC Championship Ring
At least they waited till they're not eligible anymore *cough*Ohio State*cough*... but there's no way I'd give up the ring for that cheap.

Interesting.  If I knew the circumstances (i.e. hard times, etc). I would consider buying it and returning it to them. Maybe it was lost or stolen?

Player's name is on the ring. It was donated to Goodwill.
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

FCGrizzliesGrad

Quote from: seventiesraider on September 14, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on September 14, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 14, 2011, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on September 14, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
Twenty Six Bucks?  Franklin HCAC Championship Ring
At least they waited till they're not eligible anymore *cough*Ohio State*cough*... but there's no way I'd give up the ring for that cheap.

Interesting.  If I knew the circumstances (i.e. hard times, etc). I would consider buying it and returning it to them. Maybe it was lost or stolen?

Player's name is on the ring. It was donated to Goodwill.
I'm having a hard time finding a roster from 2007, but I think I may have found an identity... freshman kicker Brett Sheldon.
Here's an article from April 2010... http://www.indy.com/posts/kicker-still-chasing-dream and the location matches up since he transferred to Indiana St.
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GRIZ_BACKER

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 14, 2011, 11:29:39 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on September 14, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on September 14, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 14, 2011, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on September 14, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
Twenty Six Bucks?  Franklin HCAC Championship Ring
At least they waited till they're not eligible anymore *cough*Ohio State*cough*... but there's no way I'd give up the ring for that cheap.

Interesting.  If I knew the circumstances (i.e. hard times, etc). I would consider buying it and returning it to them. Maybe it was lost or stolen?

Player's name is on the ring. It was donated to Goodwill.
I'm having a hard time finding a roster from 2007, but I think I may have found an identity... freshman kicker Brett Sheldon.
Here's an article from April 2010... http://www.indy.com/posts/kicker-still-chasing-dream and the location matches up since he transferred to Indiana St.

I remember him now.  Thanks for the additional research.
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Thunder44

Quote from: panthersfan on September 14, 2011, 03:35:32 PM
Quote from: Thunder44 on September 14, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
... Might come down to who wins the Special Teams battle...

They've been able to move the ball against two great teams and play a pretty good defense.  They had 100 yds more in total offense than Centre and lost by 2 TDS.  They only had 80 yds less in total offense than Thomas More but got blown out by 31 points.

With that being said, they need to put that pistol away and quit shooting themselves in the foot with it.  If so, Hanover will win some ball games.

Between the turnovers and silly penalties, they have been their own worst enemy.  Let's hope this is the week they put it all together, and play mistake-free football.

SaintsFAN

Quote from: Thunder44 on September 15, 2011, 09:39:21 AM
Quote from: panthersfan on September 14, 2011, 03:35:32 PM
Quote from: Thunder44 on September 14, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
... Might come down to who wins the Special Teams battle...

They've been able to move the ball against two great teams and play a pretty good defense.  They had 100 yds more in total offense than Centre and lost by 2 TDS.  They only had 80 yds less in total offense than Thomas More but got blown out by 31 points.

With that being said, they need to put that pistol away and quit shooting themselves in the foot with it.  If so, Hanover will win some ball games.

Between the turnovers and silly penalties, they have been their own worst enemy.  Let's hope this is the week they put it all together, and play mistake-free football.

Or the opening kickoff that went straight out of bounds.  I realize they were kicking away from Owens, but TMC is too good to start that close to Hanover territory.  TMC is alot harder to defend than any other HCAC team, save Franklin.  The effort they gave from the 7 min mark in the 1st quarter through halftime will win them some ballgames in conference. 
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Thunder44

Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 15, 2011, 12:39:22 PM
Quote from: Thunder44 on September 15, 2011, 09:39:21 AM
Quote from: panthersfan on September 14, 2011, 03:35:32 PM
Quote from: Thunder44 on September 14, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
... Might come down to who wins the Special Teams battle...

They've been able to move the ball against two great teams and play a pretty good defense.  They had 100 yds more in total offense than Centre and lost by 2 TDS.  They only had 80 yds less in total offense than Thomas More but got blown out by 31 points.

With that being said, they need to put that pistol away and quit shooting themselves in the foot with it.  If so, Hanover will win some ball games.

Between the turnovers and silly penalties, they have been their own worst enemy.  Let's hope this is the week they put it all together, and play mistake-free football.

Or the opening kickoff that went straight out of bounds.  I realize they were kicking away from Owens, but TMC is too good to start that close to Hanover territory.  TMC is alot harder to defend than any other HCAC team, save Franklin.  The effort they gave from the 7 min mark in the 1st quarter through halftime will win them some ballgames in conference.

Hoping that they learned a lot from that game.  Once TM went up 14 - 0, I was wondering how they would respond, and their scoring drive was encouraging.  Now, the key will be to do that for the entire game.

As for the kick away from Owens, I recall that the kicker was not the regular Hanover kicker, and only kicked that one time.  I guess it is a case of choosing your poison; kick it to a good returner on a good return team with the potential of getting burned for the long one (like the punt return TD), or kick it out of bounds, with a defined starting point.  Either option isn't ideal, but I would have to guess that the coach felt there was too much downside from an opening play runback for TD.

70_dc_alum

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 14, 2011, 11:29:39 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on September 14, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on September 14, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 14, 2011, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: seventiesraider on September 14, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
Twenty Six Bucks?  Franklin HCAC Championship Ring
At least they waited till they're not eligible anymore *cough*Ohio State*cough*... but there's no way I'd give up the ring for that cheap.

Interesting.  If I knew the circumstances (i.e. hard times, etc). I would consider buying it and returning it to them. Maybe it was lost or stolen?

Player's name is on the ring. It was donated to Goodwill.
I'm having a hard time finding a roster from 2007, but I think I may have found an identity... freshman kicker Brett Sheldon.
Here's an article from April 2010... http://www.indy.com/posts/kicker-still-chasing-dream and the location matches up since he transferred to Indiana St.

Another reason I hate kickers what a turd, if I was on that squad I would be pissed