FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

Adam Sayer · January 04, 2007, 01:51:06 PM

I agree, but if they want to continue playing them, then people need to judge them on it. To be fair, their schedule as is, is about the same as your typical conference football schedule. The problem lies in the fact that when Notre Dame goes 10-2 or 9-2 and better, pollsters make it out to be as if Boston College and "vintage" Florida State are back on the schedule.

This marks the 4th time in recent hsitory that they have been dismantled in a "high up" Bowl Game granted to them after a 9-2 or 10-2 season. In 2001 they lost to Oregon State 41-9 in the Fiesta Bowl (BCS), in 2002 they lost to North Carolina State 28-6 in the Gator Bowl, in 2005 they lost to Ohio State 34-20 in the Fiesta Bowl (BCS), and this year they lost to Louisiana State 41-14 in the Sugar Bowl (BCS). That's an average of 36-12.

Maybe they just need to stop playing colleges that end in 'State'. Want to know why Notre Dame has lost 9 straight bowl games. It's because they get matched up with superior opponents that are on a different level because they are Notre Dame and the $$$. Notre Dame should have been playing Arkansas in a bowl game, not LSU.

victorybell_57 · January 04, 2007, 05:09:21 PM

yes, and when lou holtz was there they played and competed with miami of florida, and other top notch programs. the huge comback against a sorry michigan st team is hardly an achievement. i think weiss realizes this though and will act accordingly, hopefully.

SaintsFAN · January 04, 2007, 06:09:32 PM

Not hiding today

Just back froms surgery-- rotator cuff and bicep...not fun, but percocets are

Dude that game sucked...ND took a big dump last night....schedule is a problem, as is the fact these are Ty's players still...give Weis two more seasons.

Sayer -- Quinns problem was not the Heisman pressure only...Chuck also said he was trying to be perfect bc of the defense....put him in Cleveland and with the expectations there, he'll have fun, make alot of money, and I'll boo his ass.

How good is Jamarcus Russell? Great arm...talked to my cousin who lives in Nawlins, if Russell comes back Im going to see the Tigers next year...if Landry leaves, I'll be a fan....he's a punk like his brother the DB for theRavens.

Adam, call me with any update on TMCs search....I wont be around much in the coming days.

BTW OSU only beat ND by two scores ( i sound like a democrat)...the other games were a helluva lot more embarassing

SaintsFAN · January 04, 2007, 06:15:25 PM

Quote from: victorybell_57 on January 04, 2007, 05:09:21 PM
yes, and when lou holtz was there they played and competed with miami of florida, and other top notch programs. the huge comback against a sorry michigan st team is hardly an achievement. i think weiss realizes this though and will act accordingly, hopefully.

vbell,

the had lower admission standards back then....T Rice was prop 48...no way he gets into ND now....also teams like ND could stockpile talent with more scholarships...thata why they put allstar teams on the field then... its an impossible comparison. I'd take the 88 Irish over any of the great teams thru history.

ALL

hit me up with some karma for bearing with the pain to give an educated opinion on ND...

plus I kind of missed bs'ing with you miscreants (shout out to beachbum)

formerd3db · January 04, 2007, 06:19:05 PM

SaintsFAN:

Best wishes for your recovery from rot cuff/biceps surgery. You'll do fine, but take it easy - and be careful with those percocets. They're good "stuff" but don't be mixing 'em with any of that "liquid stuff" i.e. ETOH if you know what I mean, seriously.

I would have to agree with you that ND just looked, well,...not very good last evening

; similar performance as to U of M. Anyway, yes, you guys keep us posted on the TMC coaching search. Again, hope you are feeling better and take care. We'll talk with you in a week or two when you're feeling better.

FCC Approved Bland Name · January 04, 2007, 08:28:39 PM

Ummm................USC anyone?

2nd best team to OSU this year, then Michigan, SEC choice, SEC choice, and throw in a healthy Louisville kicks.

ND is lucky to break the top 15.

victorybell_57 · January 04, 2007, 08:34:27 PM

touche. bucks by 30 over florida.

Adam Sayer · January 05, 2007, 08:25:50 AM

30 may be a little much. I'm looking at a 27-17 game. I think it will take Ohio State's offense a few series to get adjusted to Florida's speed on defense, but once they do, they will score. If I recall correctly, Teddy Ginn and Anthony Gonzalaz are pretty fast too.

If DeShawn Wynn is the featured RB for Florida in this game, there won't be much of a run game. Wynn doesn't like to get hit, and does anyone else notice how often he seems to get hurt. He hasn't changed since high school. The man can outrun a cheetah, but you put a few good lickins on him, he doesn't want to play any more.

SaintsFan, I think Brady Quinn played bad because he was up all night listening to AJ Hawk drop "The Hammer" on his sister in the hotel room. It's not The Big Easy for nothin

I saw that throw (60 yard bomb off 1 foot). I don't think Russell is ready to come out of college yet (that ND secondary is BAD). He needs to stay for 1 more year.

Get better. I'm having sharp pains in my lower back and am fretting going to the doctor. Percs are great.

70_dc_alum · January 05, 2007, 09:35:49 AM

sayer - probably muscle, if it is disc related you would likely feel it in your hip and legs. a herniated disk does not hurt, but it pinches the nerve which hurts like hell but it feels like a stinger in the leg. doesnt hurt as much in the lower back as it does in other places.

hit up the Doc becuase if it is muscle they might be able to work it out before it causes the disc to start to buldge.

Adam Sayer · January 05, 2007, 11:50:52 AM

I need to find time first. Wrestling and teaching keep me busy about 60 hours a week. I'm thinking about trying that pad they put between your legs when you sleep (I already know the jokes are coming). I don't feel this anywhere else except my lower back/Kidney area (right side). It started out as a "stiff" feeling where my mucle felt like it was knotted up but now it's more of a sharp pain.

I already need surgery on my shoulder (torn Labrum) but I get by on a daily basis with no pain. I just can't play sports that require throwing something. And I've had to quit lifting due to the pain. I'll only be 25 in february. I always though losing weight would help all the creaks. It probably doesn't help that I still wrestle with the kids on a daily basis either but that comes with the job requirements.

Looking forward to Medicare buying me my first wheelchair in a couple years. SaintsFan and I can have wheelchair races around the new TQL building in Eastgate.

victorybell_57 · January 05, 2007, 12:50:14 PM

my close dearest brother tried that pad bn his legs. he did it because his hips and lower back were hurting, it seemed to help a lot and aleviate chronic pain. of course, so did his losing 30 lbs of gut.

Adam Sayer · January 05, 2007, 02:12:51 PM

I think losing the weight actually hurt more than helped. My legs are now smaller and I think when I lay on my side, my right leg is on a greater downward angle causing more discomfort in my pelvis and lower back.

AWM...isn't this your area of expertise being a physical therapist and all?

Big Madeira Invitational this weekend. Go Tigers.

frank uible · January 05, 2007, 02:30:32 PM

Sayer: What have you done to yourself? You're describing how I felt at 60 before I undertook 5 invasive surgeries over 5 years.

victorybell_57 · January 05, 2007, 03:53:15 PM

why don't you start attending an ab class two days a week to strengthen your core so your back isn't taking the brunt of your manly body? i have been doing that (not by choice though) and this large african man yells at me so i tighten my abs and my abs (although not smaller) are much stronger. just a thought. hope you feel better.

victorybell_57 · January 06, 2007, 01:14:38 PM

look, i know the ab class is somewhat "fruity", but i didn't expect it to bring an end to the message board. there are hot girls in there, a lot of them. of course, there are fat girls as well, who used to be cute before they started eating double cheeseburgers. enough, i am gone. i have drinking and the kung fu marathon all weekend.

we have chicken, shrimp, steak, hibachi steak, crab (real crab,not the fake stuff), and of course chicken wings. after that is gone we have bottles and bottles of yager for yager bombs. god bless.