FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

That might be a pretty fair ranking but the coaches' poll is obliged to give 1 and 2 to the BCS title game winner and loser.

[FCC Approved Bland Name]

Florida, OSU, USC, LSU, Wisconsin/Michigan, Louisville, BSU.................................................................................
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Boise may get the nod for 7th if people get sentimental.

I still want to see USC play Florida in the plus 1 game that is needed.  Play all bowls by Jan 1 and plus one on the 8th. 

[Adam Sayer]

I just want to see the big 10 step up and be respectable. All kinds of excuses could be made for the OSU game (51 day layoff, losing Ted Ginn, bad timing, etc.) but the fact is, Florida played a flawless game and Ohio State played a horrible game. I agree with FCC that this will further the playoff debate and after OSU's embarrasing performance, I wouln't be suprised if they were dropped lower than 2. They didn't even record 100 yards of offense. Losing Ginn hurt, but give me a break.

[The Rev]

Yes that is true pat that is why i threw this out to see how most people think it should shake down - i am waiting to see how the media polls go.

[SaintsFAN]

Its my belief that what you saw last night was OSU's defense being exposed. 

Michigan was the only good team the Buckeyes played until last night.  In hindsight, I would
have liked to have seen Wisconsin play the Buckeyes...something has to be done about the
uneven scheduling in the Big 10.  Its not Ohio State's fault about the schedule, well not entirely. 

When they scheduled Texas, they didn't know they'd be playing a Freshman QB making his 2nd start..

[tepee]

1. Florida
2. LSU
3. Louisville
4. Ohio St.
5. USC

[tepee]

Sayer,  Now you know how I felt when I watched my Irish play a good
team this year.  WOW!

[Adam Sayer]

Michigan was good. I think I should start writing for ESPN or sue Pat Forde for Plagerism.
I think I called the game last night perfect first. His whole 800+ word article elaborates on my 100 word
sound off.

Saintsfan I agree, but to say exposed would imply Florida beat them deap he didn't at all. Being a former QB, you know that all those short passes
require timing in that spread. Now Leak didn't go deap once, because he didn't need to. But all those short crossing
patterns, drags, and outs, require precise timing. And to start 9/9 and at one point I think he was 14/16 before he had to start throwing
the ball into stands, is remarkable. Leak was flawless and did with the spread passing game what every coach
in America tries to do with the run game. Stay ahead of the chains and keep your 3rd downs short. Urban Meyer was licking his chops
everytime it was 3rd and 2 and he was in 5-wide. Linebackers on fast recivers. Like going to War guns vs knives. Tepee will testify,
I hate the spread offense (he did too in 2001). But part of me wants to learn it and learn it well after watching what it can do
if ran properly.

Important note: If Ted Ginn returns, Ohio State will return Antonio Pittman, Beanie Wells, Anthony Gonzolaz, and Ted Ginn for next year along with
3 of the O-lineman. They return 8 of the defensive starters too I believe. The non-conference schedule for OSU next year is Youngstown State, Akron,
Washington, and Kent State. The Big 10 teams are Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, Mich State, Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan. They get
Wisconsin at home. They could very well, if no one leaves early, be in the hunt for another BCS game next year.

[Adam Sayer]

Don't say anything about not scheduling people, because they are playing a
home n home with USC in 2008/2009, then playing a home n home with
Miami (Fl) in 2010/2011. I also think Cal is on the schedule  for one too in 2012/2013.
Ohio State is making it a point to play quality teams. They keep the Ohio teams on the schedule,
but they reach out and try to play good competition. Hell, Washington is slowly being
turned around with Ty out there.

[Adam Sayer]

FCC, by chance, you mind if I could get some copies of those playbooks?
You said you had bunches and I had completely forgot about it until
watching perfection last night.

[SaintsFAN]

My point about scheduling was the "Pay Day Games" that Ohio State has every year, Texas was a good home and home,
but they did have a freshman QB this year playing in his 2nd game.  Texas in week two didn't present nearly the same
challenge as they would have if those two had hooked up in say week 9 or 10.  When they scheduled Texas, they knew
they were getting to play a great team.  Who could have predicted their QB situation?  But it still added up to an easy win,
maybe too easy (as were most of their games)?

Its no doubt the same for very many teams, one exception I can think of is USC.  Thats probably it though...

[Adam Sayer]

I wasn't being mean. I was just referencing their upcomming schedule for next year. The fact they don't
play anyone next year doesn't mean they arn't scheduling great teams. And you're right about scheduling. Miami (FL)
has been on the 2010/2011 schedule now for 3 years already. They do these years in advance.
I would like to see Notre Dame and Ohio State start playing each other. It would be great for college football and both programs.

Now here's the important question. With USC and Florida obviously being the 2 best teams, how long does it take
establish a playoff. I think it's inevitable.

[FCC Approved Bland Name]

According to a lot of people the playoff system will be a plus 1 game.  As soon as the current BCS TV contract is up they want a plus 1 game.

You don't want my playbooks Sayer.  They are the original spread concepts from a multitude of places. You need to get a 2006 version from a spread team that has all of the ideas incorporated already.  I started with UCLA 1998 and went from there.  The stuff we ran in 2001 came straight from Clemson and Northwestern (which I visited that year to watch spring ball).  We sucked at it in 2001 but in 2002 when we got a QB and a threat at receiver, everything changed.  Using a huddle helped also.  Going with Rich Rodriguez' version with all freshmen was nota good idea in 2001.  Our backs absolutely killed us but you live and learn. 

[FCC Approved Bland Name]

If you want to know about spread systems, draw up a 5 wide receiver look and then look at what the defense must do to defend it.  The looks are clear as a bell.

Most offensive systems work from the inside out.  You look at the interior, then the RB's and LB's, and then the WR's and DB's as you consider how you protect yourself.  In spread you look at the WR's first then the RB's and then the interior line as you create a philosophy.  You come to find out that it's pretty straight forward inside when it's 5 on 5 all the time and you are in an attack mode.  Zone, Trap, Speed Option, and Draw are your base runs.  You need a QB that can throw deep even if you never want to because if a team decides to squeeze you, you must go up top.........to Wellendorf................ even if he's a freshman.

It has been great to watch how these offenses have gotten to so many looks forcing the defenses to react and play tentative.  OSU needed to show more blitz and get in the receivers faces a little more.  They made Leak look like a God which he is not.  Florida dictated the pace the entire game both offensively and defensively. 

Spread offenses are great running offenses when done right.  Look at West Virginia.

[Adam Sayer]

I'd like to see the face of Woody Hayes is someone in 1975 came out with 5 recievers; four to one side. I think the phrase was Ooptey-f#cking-oop, when did the damn circus come to town.