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[Adam Sayer]

But Jamal Lewis should return to some type of form. It wasn't like he was a Barry Sanders RB. He was a bruiser who ran straight and over people. As long as Cleveland's OL gets him room, he'll still be alright.

As far as Vick goes, I think you will see him back. He has more God-given ability than anyone else in the NFL. Just because you go to jail doesn't mean God takes back all that ability. The other stuff, i.e. mechanical and instinctual stuff such as throwing, pocket presence, etc. will only come back when he actually can get back to playing. He'll be a QB again because something about him tells me he won't play anywhere else (kind of like a certain MSJ QB last year). After he serves his 1 year jail sentence and additional 1-year suspension from the NFL, a team will pick him up. He'll still only be 29 and will have about 6-7 more years to play. Some of that time will be well spent as a back up getting re-adjusted to the NFL.

All you have to do is look at Tim Couch. He was horrible before leaving the NFL, has been gone for a couple years, and now a team has given him a chance. Mike Vick wasn't horrible, he was just an average QB. At least he has that ability to fall back on.

[JacketsFan]

You could be right, Adam, but I still think a stint in federal prison will end Vick's playing days in the NFL. I don't think it will be related to his talent because you're right, that much God given talent can't be taken away by time behind bars and a suspension. I think the totality of the experience will get to him. Prison has a tendency to sap people's optimism and outlook on life. Although federal prisons are run more efficiently than state prisons, they are grim places where the rules and the routines are so stifling it's unbearable. Plus, I think we're all underestimating the effects of negative publicity. Right or wrong, Vick is going to become the poster child for what happens to bad boy athletes who get conicted and go to prison and the court of public opinion and political correctness from the animal lovers is going to make it real hard for someone to justify hiring him. Plus, he's going to be on supervised release for at least three years, which is a further impediment to his freedom. Basically, he's going to be living with a federal probation officer perched on his shoulder. I wonder how many owners or coaches would feel comfortable with that situation. By the way, I made a mistake in my last post. I don't think it is the same judge who sentenced Scooter Libby.

One other thing, the Jaguars released Tim Couch Saturday.

[70_dc_alum]

my guess is Vick gets more than a year.  Godell is suspending guys for a year for things a lot less than what vick is doing and that does not look at him running a gambling ring.

if vick takes another snap in the NFL it will be the day after Pete Rose is inducted into the HOF.

[70_dc_alum]

what a crappy day, had a cusotmer ask for 10M worth of stuff free, then i get to the airport at 3 to run into a storm.  my 4:00 flight is cancelled get booked on the 6:00, another storm...cancelled.  now booked on  the 10:30 flight out of Chicago.  8 hrs at ohare and it is my birthday.

well at least i dont have to put on socks with handles like Vick!!

Jamal Lewis wont return to form...he is not wearing black and purple anymore when he is running on cleveland's field!!

[victorybell_57]

word is that jamal lewis is in prime shape this year, well according to the SI article.

8 hours in any airport would not be fun. maybe you can hit up the airport lounge?

[ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE]

Jamal Lewis does have what appears to be a very good looking OL in front of him.  Drafting Joe Thomas was a great move and getting Eric Steinbach was as well, if LeCharles Bentley comes back in his previous form and they can move Schaffer over to RT then they should be pretty well set.

[SaintsFAN]

ok so I need some advice on where to take a YOUNG girl out to??   She's of legal drinking age, but I dont' want to bore this chick with some place and my grey hairs..

Some of you guys in Cincy need to get on here and let me know...

JacketsFAN,

Yes you are right...and he's about to set that program back for a new coach at McMurray. 

and M&L...haha...I'm NOT EVEN GOING TO TOUCH THIS ONE..

I'm subbing agina this year For southwest schools. 

You know I'm kidding....

Jamal Lewis is a Cleveland Brown...thats all I have to say.  LeCharles Bentley is not going to be back in his previous form...he's STILL having issues.  They are going to have Frye or Anderson at QB to start their schedule (which puts them at 0-4) and teams are going to gang up on the run game to stop it.  Jamal is going to learn the difference between Baltimore and Cleveland and it ain't the color of their jerseys.....Baltimore RUNS the ball with a determined attitude and Cleveland likes to run the ball and hopefully suprise people with a different look than a 3 or 5 step drop for Frye...they lack that determined, stubborn attitude. 

[tepee]

saints fan,

cadillac ranch, get her to ride the bull!

[SaintsFAN]

tepee,

two bulls in one night?? 

Just got an email from her, she wants margaritas and Mexican tonight..  Luckily I count with my mother being 1/2 Mexican...

I have been to Cadillac Ranch...that bull is something else....we rode one last weekend at the St. Mary's (Hyde Park) Festival..

[victorybell_57]

well, and the right tackle is out for 4 games for steroids or something. the OL is better than previously, but still sub par. you would think that even with the soldier and some above average receivers, they could be better on offense. of course, this is the team that has crushed their fans since 1964 and i would think they are in for a long year.

on a side note, baltimore runs the ball so well, because they couldn't throw until they obtained mc nair. IMO. i am not so sure mcgahee will do as good as lewis did, i don't think he can hammer it in the same fashion.

[Adam Sayer]

I stopped by the Cadillac Ranch the other afternoon for lunch with the Ol Lady. It was nice. A little expensive for a substitute teacher, but nice. The best part about the bull is once a nice looking woman gets on (with hopefully decent breasts) they give her an extended ride and slow it down so you can see her boobs bouncing. The last time I rode a bull, the wiring started sparking and the people at Bobby Macke's gave me my $5 back.

And I think the night would go something like riding the bull then a miniture donkey   If she wants Mexican, bring her over my house. I got one helluva tan and can be Mexican for a night. Or just go to Margharitas downtown or wherever is close. There's a place in Blue Ash called El Pueblo off Hunt Rd that's pretty good.

I'd also suggest anywhere in Hyde Park (find a nice sushi bar with saki).

[JacketsFan]

Is the Cadillac Ranch like the Bunny Ranch, Adam? At my age, I want to see any woman's boobs bounce, no matter what shape they're in. What was it Jeff Foxworthy said? Men just want cold beer and to see something nekkid. They really don't care what she looks like as long as she's nekkid.

Well, guys, I got my football fix tonight. Despite the surf being a solid five feet, I opted for the Fernandina Beach High School Pirates' preseason game against cross county rivals, the Hilliard High School Flashes.  After years of getting spanked in the openers, Fernandina Beach took the field tonight and took the flash right out of the Flashes with a 25-9 spanking. Actually, it should've only been 25-3 but an overzealous defensive player clobbered the Hilliard punter with less than two minutes to play, and the ensuing penalty put the Flashes so close to the goal line that even Manchester could've scored. Fernandina has a great running back. He easily broke a hundred yards this evening.

I love high school football. I love Friday night lights and hotdogs and peanuts and Skittles. Dammit. I just wish I still had someone still playing college ball.

[victorybell_57]

big hcac area clash this week in high school sports. warren central is playing glenville out of cleveland. i am going to go out on a limb and say warren central overpowers in this game. any thoughts?

[Adam Sayer]

How many schools does Warren have? Harding, Central, JFK...is that all? For the most part, they all play pretty good ball.

I was scouting Norwood/McNick for Purcell. McNick has a pretty good QB and a great kicker.

[wabashcpa]

big hcac area clash this week in high school sports. warren central is playing glenville out of cleveland. i am going to go out on a limb and say warren central overpowers in this game. any thoughts?

I was actually thinking just the opposite.  WC has already been upset by Merrillville, and I would guess Glenville is more talented than Merrillville.  But, we'll find out soon enough.