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SaintsFAN

Pat,

Is that because I'll be near the hot air of Grossman?? 

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HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

propower64

NCAA Div. III Football Playoffs
***Elite Eight***
Franklin vs. Wheaton   
@ Franklin Community High School
December 6, 2008
TAILGATE AND RALLY

This is a call out to all Franklin College football fans to join the Touchdown Club for a pre-game tailgate as the Grizzlies take on Wheaton College in the quarterfinals of the NCAA Division III Playoffs. The tailgate will be set up in the parking lot just south of the Franklin Community High School Football Field.  We are also in the process of getting a 40' x 60' tent and heaters to help stay warm.   I have attached a map of the FCHS campus and driving directions.
Pre-game meal – We have a great meal planed this week: prime rib, beef and noodles, mashed potatoes, green beans, pork cutlets, burgers, brats, dogs and fresh-cut fries will be provided with donations being accepted to defray food costs.  Lunch will be served from approximately 10:30 - 11:45 a.m. to allow for the noon kickoff.  We ask everyone to bring a side dish or dessert to share.  Special thanks to Bea and Chris Northcott owner of Quiznos in Franklin for donation of the prime rib and Franklin's Mayor Fred Paris for donation the large tent and heat.
"The Franklin College community is very thankful to Franklin Community High School and the Franklin Community School Corporation for allowing us to hold the NCAA playoff game at their facility.  The hospitality, cooperation and assistance of the FCSC staff have been tremendous.  As guests of the school corporation, we are committed to hosting this event in full compliance with their rules and policies.  Grizzly fans should be aware that the Franklin Community High School campus is a smoke-free and alcohol-free facility.  Franklin College has agreed to provide adequate security personnel to ensure adherence to this policy." – Kerry Prather – Director of Athletics at Franklin College
This is an event for all Franklin College football fans; you don't have to be a member of the Touchdown Club to join in the food, fun and football. 
Please contact me at 317-695-1106 or chris@proindustries.com if you would like to donate or if you have any questions.
Go Grizzlies!
Chris Lynch
Franklin College Touchdown Club

Blutarsky

Quote from: propower64 on December 03, 2008, 02:44:13 PM
NCAA Div. III Football Playoffs
***Elite Eight***
Franklin vs. Wheaton   
@ Franklin Community High School
December 6, 2008
TAILGATE AND RALLY

This is a call out to all Franklin College football fans to join the Touchdown Club for a pre-game tailgate as the Grizzlies take on Wheaton College in the quarterfinals of the NCAA Division III Playoffs. The tailgate will be set up in the parking lot just south of the Franklin Community High School Football Field.  We are also in the process of getting a 40' x 60' tent and heaters to help stay warm.   I have attached a map of the FCHS campus and driving directions.
Pre-game meal – We have a great meal planed this week: prime rib, beef and noodles, mashed potatoes, green beans, pork cutlets, burgers, brats, dogs and fresh-cut fries will be provided with donations being accepted to defray food costs.  Lunch will be served from approximately 10:30 - 11:45 a.m. to allow for the noon kickoff.  We ask everyone to bring a side dish or dessert to share.  Special thanks to Bea and Chris Northcott owner of Quiznos in Franklin for donation of the prime rib and Franklin's Mayor Fred Paris for donation the large tent and heat.
"The Franklin College community is very thankful to Franklin Community High School and the Franklin Community School Corporation for allowing us to hold the NCAA playoff game at their facility.  The hospitality, cooperation and assistance of the FCSC staff have been tremendous.  As guests of the school corporation, we are committed to hosting this event in full compliance with their rules and policies.  Grizzly fans should be aware that the Franklin Community High School campus is a smoke-free and alcohol-free facility.  Franklin College has agreed to provide adequate security personnel to ensure adherence to this policy." – Kerry Prather – Director of Athletics at Franklin College
This is an event for all Franklin College football fans; you don't have to be a member of the Touchdown Club to join in the food, fun and football. 
Please contact me at 317-695-1106 or chris@proindustries.com if you would like to donate or if you have any questions.
Go Grizzlies!
Chris Lynch
Franklin College Touchdown Club


Man, this is a great idea........I may do this instead of attending the Mount Union game.
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son"
                         --Dean Wormer

SaintsFAN

you may need beverages though (adult in nature) to help keep warm. 
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

KYGrizzly

Blutarsky,

If both Franklin and Mount Union win on Saturday you may be able to witness it the next weekend at Mount Union.

The Touchdown Club usually puts on a good showing whether Franklin is at home or away.

Adam Sayer

Good luck this weekend FC. You've already beaten the top dawg in the CCIW. No reason why you can't beat Wheaton...which would make me very happy.
I'm a man, but sometimes I want to smell like a different smelling man!

GRIZ_BACKER

Thanks Mr. Sayer.  FC is carrying the torch for themselves and the HCAC this weekend and hopefully the torch goes on to Alliance. OH.   Some of the folks are rationalizing again over on the CCIW board. 

FC is ready to play football in the frosty December cold!!


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SaintsFAN

As you loyal HCAC posters may or may not have noticed, I've been silent and absent from the thread this week.  This is by no means a result of thinking the season is over -- things have been pretty crazy (in a good way) at work.  Its eaten up alot of my time. 

That said, I'm also pulling for Franklin... this is a very winnable game for them.  There's a decent chance that I'm going to be calling the National Semifinals in Alliance, OH (should Mt Union win), and I'd love to see Franklin make that game.   Pat asked me on Sunday about going to Franklin to call this Regional Final, but alas, I had plans already for Saturday so I'm going to check the computer on Saturday afternoon.  Too bad this game is being played at Franklin Community HS, I hope all the students can make this game to give Franklin a homefield advantage. 

Its funny how LAST YEAR, we were talking about how the HCAC has come a long way because both Franklin and Mount St Joe earned invitations to the tournament --only to have both lose.  Fast forward to October and we were talking about how down the HCAC is as a whole... needless to say, nobody saw this run from the Grizzlies coming.   Maybe the Heartland hasn't earned respect, but dmn right Franklin has on the national stage.  I guess the only question for future Grizzly teams is... does Rupp have a younger brother (or three)?

To put all this in perspective, a Franklin grad who writes for a Floyd County/Clark County (near Louisville) fishrap... check the article out on the front page of this great website in the section titled "What else we are reading".  Pretty funny story how a player missed 45 minutes of practice due to a combination of not knowing when the practice starts and a poker game. 

Good luck this weekend to Franklin, they are playing for all teams who up to this point haven't made the playoffs, haven't won a playoff game, play in a weaker conference, and those of you that have been underdogs at any point in recent times. 

Prediction:  I look forward to seeing Franklin in person in Alliance on December 13th.


SIDE NOTE:  on the front page is a contest to win what amounts to an expenses paid trip to Salem.  Not only does this include the $400 for travel, hotel and game tickets.. but also tickets to the Gagliardi Trophy presentation and other events in Salem, VA that week.  Get on there and sign up..
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

GRIZ_BACKER

we need a youtube clip of shooter from Hoosiers talking a about how a "small school never won a state championship before" ;D
HCAC Champions 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018

Adam Sayer

#3894
I don't think Franklin's run indicates that the HCAC is any good. It means that Franklin is good. The remaining HCAC teams are still way behind on the expressway.

I will play devil's advocate for a second to stir the pot and arouse some emotions. Wheaton has a couple of advantages in this game.

1. The CCIW is a very tough conference top to bottom. When you are required to play at a high level every week, you forget how to play any other way. It's the argument the SEC makes every year and though I can't stand the SEC, it's a truthful argument. Franklin has been playing great football, but at some point, a traditionalist must say: "When's the Cinderella run going to end?" When you play the scrubs of the HCAC week in and week out, how much "Emotional Conditioning" can a team like Franklin have? The other question I ask is how much physical conditioning do they have? To play at such a high level week in and week out, when you haven't been required to do so, takes a toll physically.

2. Experience is the other. Wheaton has a strong history of being a successful playoff team. They are accustomed, coaches and players, to this type of environment, whereas Franklin hasn't been here. You could argue after last week's game, that experience isn't a big deal. I would caution that Franklin played a North Central team, whom 1 year earlier beat them on a last second play in the playoffs. NCC had playoff experience, but was NCC really a better team than Franklin? I would argue that experience didn't come into play because of the results of last year's game. When you're playing a team you are unfamiliar with, any type of familiarity provides comfort.

3. The 2nd to last is weather. Sure, Franklin plays in a cold weather environment in Central Indiana, but not much around the midwest is Chicago-Cold. I've been "blessed" to feel how Dante visioned the inner layer of Hell. Last time I checked, the offense Wheaton runs is simple, precise, and is extremely hard to stop. And it's a "cold-weather" type of offense. Short precise routes, quick-hitting runs, play action to routes in the flats. They do not make many mistakes and since they don't do a whole lot, their technique is damn-near flawless, and they can block any front, stunt, or blitz you can throw at them. Their offense will do one other thing as well...keep FC's offense on the sideline, limiting the number of mistakes FC can make.

4. The last point is this: Wheaton has only lost to 1 team in the playoffs since 2002. That team is Mount Union. Against everyone else, Wheaton is 5-0.
I'm a man, but sometimes I want to smell like a different smelling man!

70_dc_alum

the move to the high school in my opinion favors Franklin.  unless there is a poker game going on (funny article) the students who would have walked 10 min across campus will get in a car and drive 10 min.  Franklin needs to make this a track meet and playing in the muck would of held them back.  the biggest downside is the best tailgate around was moved to a location that is booze free and they are enforcing it.

Blutarsky

Quote from: 70_dc_alum on December 05, 2008, 09:26:35 AM
the move to the high school in my opinion favors Franklin.  unless there is a poker game going on (funny article) the students who would have walked 10 min across campus will get in a car and drive 10 min.  Franklin needs to make this a track meet and playing in the muck would of held them back.  the biggest downside is the best tailgate around was moved to a location that is booze free and they are enforcing it.

OK, I'm now out.....Alliance here I come.
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son"
                         --Dean Wormer

usee

Quote from: Adam Sayer on December 05, 2008, 08:40:53 AM
3. The 2nd to last is weather. Sure, Franklin plays in a cold weather environment in Central Indiana, but not much around the midwest is Chicago-Cold. I've been "blessed" to feel how Dante visioned the inner layer of Hell. Last time I checked, the offense Wheaton runs is simple, precise, and is extremely hard to stop. And it's a "cold-weather" type of offense. Short precise routes, quick-hitting runs, play action to routes in the flats. They do not make many mistakes and since they don't do a whole lot, their technique is damn-near flawless, and they can block any front, stunt, or blitz you can throw at them. Their offense will do one other thing as well...keep FC's offense on the sideline, limiting the number of mistakes FC can make.

Adam, good analysis thanks for posting it. I am a Wheaton guy and have seen most of their games and most of their playoff games. I know the experience of the coaches certainly helps and this years Sr. have been there before. Other than that you give Wheaton way too much credit. I think Wheaton's running game can be an advantage but a couple of teams have stopped them this year. Their technique is far from "flawless" and they often miss stunts and blitz assignments. They have some playmakers that make it look like they know what they are doing but they aren't that different than most D3 teams in that regard (If I see another corner blitz go unblocked I might scream!)

Quote from: Adam Sayer on December 05, 2008, 08:40:53 AM

4. The last point is this: Wheaton has only lost to 1 team in the playoffs since 2002. That team is Mount Union. Against everyone else, Wheaton is 5-0.

Actually, the ONLY team Wheaton has ever lost to in the playoffs is Mt Union in Alliance. 0-5 at the Purple altar. They have beaten Baldwin Wallace, Wittenberg, Mt St Joe's (2x), Wabash, Hope, Trine, and Alma in their 6 trips to the playoffs since 1995.

70_dc_alum

Thank the NCAA gods that we still get to decide it on the field to see the great playoff matchups like the one coming up tomorrow at Franklin High.  Good Luch Franklin and a little BCS humor going into the weekend...

The BCS DECLARES GERMANY WINNER OF WORLD WAR II while the US Ranked 4th

After determining the Big-12 championship game participants the BCS computers were put to work on other major contests and today the BCS declared Germany to be the winner of World War II.

"Germany put together an incredible number of victories beginning with the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland and continuing on into conference play with defeats of Poland, France, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and the Netherlands. Their only losses came against the US and Russia; however considering their entire body of work--including an incredibly tough Strength of Schedule--our computers deemed them worthy of the #1 ranking."

Questioned about the #4 ranking of the United States the BCS commissioner stated "The US only had two major victories--Japan and Germany. The computer models, unlike humans, aren't influenced by head-to-head contests--they consider each contest to be only a single, equally-weighted event."

German Chancellor Adolph Hiter said "Yes, we lost to the US; but we defeated #2 ranked France in only 6 weeks." Herr Hitler has been criticized for seeking dramatic victories to earn 'style points' to enhance Germany's rankings. Hitler protested "Our contest with Poland was in doubt until the final day and the conditions in Norway were incredibly challenging and demanded the application of additional forces."

The French ranking has also come under scrutiny. The BCS commented " France had a single loss against Germany and following a preseason #1 ranking they only fell to #2."

Japan was ranked #3 with victories including Manchuria, Borneo and the Philippines.

GRIZ_BACKER

Quote from: 70_dc_alum on December 05, 2008, 09:26:35 AM
the move to the high school in my opinion favors Franklin.  unless there is a poker game going on (funny article) the students who would have walked 10 min across campus will get in a car and drive 10 min.  Franklin needs to make this a track meet and playing in the muck would of held them back.  the biggest downside is the best tailgate around was moved to a location that is booze free and they are enforcing it.

we will still have a drink or two  we just gotta be careful   pour it in a cup my friend!!
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