FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[cave2bens]

DC one game closer to getting their HCAC Toe Rings and Purple and Gold leterman tutus. Woo-hoo! Who woulda thunk it? I heard they even lost the bye last week but have been to embarrassed to publish the results. Bob, what would our friend Frank say?

Dominus Vo-Bisque 'em
Et cum spear a tu tu
Oh!

They're so light and fluffy white
We'll raise a fortune by tonight

Cursory glances of several, waddling OLs, clad in white on Red Faught Field indicate potential need of post season three-threes, designed by Omar the Tentmaker (with deference to lovely Fatima of Ms Old Frothingslosh fame - a whale of an ale for the pale stale male - the beer with the foam on the bottom.

Get up and do the Funky Alphonso...

They're so light and fluffy brown
They're the finest in the town.

Good Morning Your Highness -
ooo, ooo, ooo, ooo;
Good gosh, you're sumptuous  

[JacketsFan]

Ahhh, Griz-Backer, you're a gentleman, a scholar and a good sport to boot. Alas, your noble defense of DC kind of reminds me of the guy who's trying to get a friend to take his ugly sister on a date. When his friend asks him what she looks like, he launches into a soliloquy about what a great cook she is; how she can grow the prettiest flowers in town in her garden; what a terrific sense of humor she has; how well read  she is, etc., etc. When the friend finally pins him down and says look dammit, quick dodging the question and tell me what she looks like, the ugly woman's brother throws up his hands and asks in exasperation, "Why does everyone insist on getting bogged down on trivial details?" I'm afraid DC is the ugly sister of the HCAC right now, but maybe it'll turn out one of the others is only a single bagger instead of a double bagger. But on the bright side, it does keep cave2bens and I in Frank Zappa material.

...A leprechaun had stroked his
Sma-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ahhh (stroked his smock)
Which set him off in such a frenzy
He sang LOCK AROUND THE CROCK

[altor]

I'm afraid DC is the ugly sister of the HCAC right now,

I really don't think it's that bad.  I've still got DC in the middle of the HCAC.  Though, RHIT, Manchester, and Hanover really threw me for a loop this weekend.

Keep in mind that DC's 3 losses are to two likely conference champions and a likely 2nd place team.  That win over Muskingum looks better since the Muskies stayed with ONU this weekend.  Three of Muskingum's losses are to top 25 teams (though I question ONU as a top 25 team).

[SaintsFAN]

That's the biggest upset in the HCAC in quite a few years.

TMC and MSJ now 4-0...Bridge Bowl looking interesting. My buddy Josh and I are planning a long drunkening on November 14.

how long have I been telling you this?  i hope MSJ is deep... because the Saints are.  The only constants are the QB and LBs... everyone else rotates.  Hilvert has done a pretty sick job of recruiting Cincy, as you knew he would. 

[Adam Sayer]

Telling me what? MSJ & TMC were going to be good??? As soon as Hilvert was named as their HC, I knew in a couple years they would be good. MSJ has bounced back nicely after a disappointing 2008 season. The only 2 things between MSJ and TMC  entering that game 9-0 (barring anything unforeseen) are the Presidents and Grizzlies.

Speaking of which, when and where is the TMC/W & J game this year?

[Adam Sayer]

Northern Teams in DIII Top 25 (In order of appearance)
1. Mount Union
2. Wheaton
3. Case Western Reserve
4. Wabash
5. Otterbein
6. North Central
7. Ohio Northern
8. Capital
9. Franklin
10. Thomas More

Other Northern Teams with 0 or 1 loss & 4 wins (In nor particular order).
1. Illinois Wesleyan
2. MSJ
3. Carnegie Mellon
4. Wittenberg
***No one from the MIAA applies, but their conference champ would be in the playoffs.


The next 6 weeks will be an interesting affair.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Ahhh, Griz-Backer, you're a gentleman, a scholar and a good sport to boot. Alas, your noble defense of DC kind of reminds me of the guy who's trying to get a friend to take his ugly sister on a date. When his friend asks him what she looks like, he launches into a soliloquy about what a great cook she is; how she can grow the prettiest flowers in town in her garden; what a terrific sense of humor she has; how well read  she is, etc., etc. When the friend finally pins him down and says look dammit, quick dodging the question and tell me what she looks like, the ugly woman's brother throws up his hands and asks in exasperation, "Why does everyone insist on getting bogged down on trivial details?" I'm afraid DC is the ugly sister of the HCAC right now, but maybe it'll turn out one of the others is only a single bagger instead of a double bagger. But on the bright side, it does keep cave2bens and I in Frank Zappa material.

...A leprechaun had stroked his
Sma-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ahhh (stroked his smock)
Which set him off in such a frenzy
He sang LOCK AROUND THE CROCK

I did forget to add:  She sews all her own clothes and doesn't sweat much for a fat girl!  Saints Fan might still date her

[SaintsFAN]

Telling me what? MSJ & TMC were going to be good??? As soon as Hilvert was named as their HC, I knew in a couple years they would be good. MSJ has bounced back nicely after a disappointing 2008 season. The only 2 things between MSJ and TMC  entering that game 9-0 (barring anything unforeseen) are the Presidents and Grizzlies.

Speaking of which, when and where is the TMC/W & J game this year?

When you chided me for saying this is a strong, strong TMC team.  Probably top 3 ever at the school as far as talent goes. 


The W&J game is in PA this year on October 31st. 

[SaintsFAN]

I did forget to add:  She sews all her own clothes and doesn't sweat much for a fat girl!  Saints Fan might still date her

"the thing about bigger girls....is, they do more stuff.."   Sean William Scott as "Wheeler" in Role Models

[Mr. Ypsi]

Northern Teams in DIII Top 25 (In order of appearance)
1. Mount Union
2. Wheaton
3. Case Western Reserve
4. Wabash
5. Otterbein
6. North Central
7. Ohio Northern
8. Capital
9. Franklin
10. Thomas More

Other Northern Teams with 0 or 1 loss & 4 wins (In nor particular order).
1. Illinois Wesleyan
2. MSJ
3. Carnegie Mellon
4. Wittenberg
***No one from the MIAA applies, but their conference champ would be in the playoffs.


The next 6 weeks will be an interesting affair.

While Trine of the MIAA has only 3 wins so far (and, thus, does not qualify for your list), you might want to add them anyway.  They went 10-0 last year, and will likely finish 9-1 this year, with their only loss being by ONE point AT Franklin.

[Adam Sayer]

With the exception of 1 team, the whole CCIW is 3-1 also.  Definitely makes for an interesting 2nd half of the year.

I knew TMC would be good. Are they as good as you think, only time will tell. The W & J game will determine a lot.

[JacketsFan]

The other thing about fat girls is that you have to roll them around in flour to find their, ah, never mind.

Altor, you are the eternal optimist. I've been to the mountain top with DC and then shoved off the summit so many times now I stopped counting. Until they're no longer satisfied to be a middle of the pack team, they will never amount to much of anything. T had his chances to build a championship team with the recruiting classes that P brought in. He also had a damn genius of a defensive coordinator in Adam Baumgartner and a formidable O-line coach in John Prinz. Then he bet the house on a QB who had a deadly arm as long as the receivers wore the opposing jerseys and blew a game to WomanChester that would've been a conference ring for his team and a much needed shot in the arm for the program. The dog and pony show was repeated the next year despite having Lucas Dillon receiving, a couple of formidable running backs, a kick-ass O-line and a blood thirsty defense. There's something in the water there that's bad and my mama always told me, when the water tastes bad, pour it out and get yourself a fresh glass. DC has got to lift its sights above something other than mediocrity. Look what MSJ and Franklin has done. Look what Wabash has done.

Look here brother, who you jiving with that cosmic debris

[cave2bens]

Altor, you are the eternal optimist. I've been to the mountain top with DC and then shoved off the summit so many times now I stopped counting. Until they're no longer satisfied to be a middle of the pack team, they will never amount to much of anything. T had his chances to build a championship team with the recruiting classes that P brought in. He also had a damn genius of a defensive coordinator in Adam Baumgartner and a formidable O-line coach in John Prinz. Then he bet the house on a QB who had a deadly arm as long as the receivers wore the opposing jerseys and blew a game to WomanChester that would've been a conference ring for his team and a much needed shot in the arm for the program. The dog and pony show was repeated the next year despite having Lucas Dillon receiving, a couple of formidable running backs, a kick-ass O-line and a blood thirsty defense. There's something in the water there that's bad and my mama always told me, when the water tastes bad, pour it out and get yourself a fresh glass. DC has got to lift its sights above something other than mediocrity. Look what MSJ and Franklin has done. Look what Wabash has done.

Look here brother, who you jiving with that cosmic debris

It may be a bit unrealistic to toss Wabash into this mix for comparative purposes, JF.  The differences, as we've discussed, extend beyond a lack of women (students) on campus.  While recent history and the 600 win plateau gives the impression of a potential powerhouse in the making, it wasn't always "gravy on both sides of the biscuit" in Crawfordsville.  There were years, including mine during the Max Urick era, where smacking DePauw was an annual opportunity as both school's programs wallowed in mediocrity (though Mont's lengthy tenure yielded quite a few Dannie wins before Coach Nick assumed the mantle in Greencastle).  

Instead, one might consider Mount Union, ONU, and Findlay - teams that Defiance routinely played with competitively for many years during their NAIA days.   What changed?  Coaches and philosophies - Martinelli at Ashland, Dick Strahm at Findlay (wishing him well in his battle with cancer - talked with him in June at Bryan, OH book signing), and of course, Larry Kehres.  Defiance had a decade of strong coaches as well in the 1960s and 70s - Merb, Tigyer, and Snyder.  Franklin is strong because of Leonard and his staff, and MSJ - heck, Delphi was still a nunnery during my collegiate years.  Again, strong staff of coaches. 

If there is an identifiable shortcoming, it's in the packaging of what Defiance has (or doesn't have) to offer and finding recruits outside of the tri-state (IN, MI, OH for the Cinci boys), which appears to be a point of emphasis with the new Prez.  It will be interesting to observe what transpires, or if they go the way of Trine and become "McMaster College of OH."  When in doubt...

"HOT SOAPY WATER in the FIRST DEGREE..."

The bandit say "It must be what they all needs..." 

[KYGrizzly]

I did forget to add:  She sews all her own clothes and doesn't sweat much for a fat girl!  Saints Fan might still date her

"the thing about bigger girls....is, they do more stuff.."   Sean William Scott as "Wheeler" in Role Models

And they are still there the next morning to fix you breakfast.

[70_dc_alum]

I think the new Prez will be really good for the DC athletics he seems to really like sports (2youbg sons who love football helps). We all know support from the top is required to be good (I think Hanover would agree). DC has not had a prez that supported FB and sports in general since Harris left in the 90's. Unfortunately there is several years of bad support that needs to overcome. In the good years we used to have a solid core from Florida (lots of speed, some large cubans to block, and an occasional nose tackle with a shy non opionated pops with killer fish tacos). Last several years the admin would not even allow them to recruit south of Ohio. I don't think there is anyone on the roster south of Lima. New prez has already been reaching out to alums and committed to bringing in students for various states including those DC never considered.