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Quote from: JacketsFan on October 18, 2009, 05:17:27 PM
Yay for DC. About time you got a win. Do it again next week.

Another nice finish should be in the cards for DC with Andy, Hanover and Bluffton on the slate with only one win between them. No reason the Jackets shouldn't get a W in all three of those and maybe if MSJ has nothing to play for in week 9 they can spring a trap on them. Should be a respectable 5-5 season unless someone throws a stick in the spoke of Jackets. As awful as some teams are in the league are this year, 5-5 wouldn't be anything to bugle about. That's kind of what we're used to around here huh Joe and Robert ... average but nothing to get excited about with no Ws against any teams with a respectable record.

Enough about that and to the real order of business this week down in central part of the Hoosier State for the AQ. Don't have any reason to think both teams won't put up 30+ in this one. Flip a coin on this one.
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Adam Sayer

When was the last time ManU was 3-0 in conference play??? Or 3-0 in anything regarding football?

Huge game this weekend. Winner gets an 11th game.
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Hello... I'm back after a long rest.. How is everyone doing?? I see my school MSJ is back on top.... 6-0....

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WHAT THE HELL HAPPEND TO TEAMS LIKE HANOVER/ANDERSON... THEY WERE THE CREAM OF THE CROP, AND NOW THEY ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FOOD CHAIN... CONGRATS TO COACH HILLVERT, FOR TURNING THINGS AROUND OVER AT TMC.... GREAT COACH/FRIEND AND DAMN GOOD RECRUITER... SHOULD COME DOWN TO MSJ/FRANKLIN FOR THE CROWN, AND THE RIGHT TO THE PLAY-OFF'S.... I HOPE MSJ AND TMC ENTER THE LAST GAME UNDEFEATED, AND BOTH MAKE THE PLAY-OFF'S... TWO OF MY FAV PEOPLE COACHING AT BOTH SCHOOLS'....

KYGrizzly

Franklin is going for its 22nd straight conference victory this Saturday against Mount St. Joe's who was the last conference team to beat them in the 2006 season which was also at Franklin.

Should be a great game to watch. Franklin will not be able to afford to play the first half the same way they did against Anderson.

They made a switch at quarterback in the first half replacing their starter after a couple of interceptions with a third string QB(I'm assuming that the backup they had been using was hurt) with three minutes to go till half and led them down the field to tie the game at 17 all.

He also led them to three more TD's in the 3rd quarter. The starter was inserted back in the fourth quarter and led them to two more scores.


GRIZ_BACKER

Quote from: KYGrizzly on October 19, 2009, 04:44:30 PM
Franklin is going for its 22nd straight conference victory this Saturday against Mount St. Joe's who was the last conference team to beat them in the 2006 season which was also at Franklin.

Should be a great game to watch. Franklin will not be able to afford to play the first half the same way they did against Anderson.

They made a switch at quarterback in the first half replacing their starter after a couple of interceptions with a third string QB(I'm assuming that the backup they had been using was hurt) with three minutes to go till half and led them down the field to tie the game at 17 all.

He also led them to three more TD's in the 3rd quarter. The starter was inserted back in the fourth quarter and led them to two more scores.



Nice to see you at the game this weekend.  I didn't stop by but I saw you over on the SE corner. (phi alpha btw).  The other starting QB Purichia is banged up (no word on if he could have played against the Ravens).  The 3rd string guy looked good against Anderson.  FC will need to be playing well on all cylinders to win this one. Glad it is at home and on grass.  Weather says 45 and some rain.  In years past that favored MSJ.  Not so sure this year.

Regardless, no way to predict this one. Should come down to turnovers and fewest mistakes.  Sayer:  you gonna be there?  Come by and introduce yourself and stop by the touchdown club for lunch and some barley pop. 
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Adam Sayer

If I could make it, I most definitely would. We have films all morning & afternoon on Saturday.

As others have stated, the difference will be turnovers. Both teams should light up the scoreboard and whoever doesn't turn it over and limit their chances will win. MSJ's defense, if they start playing like they have in the past, could help MSJ's cause greatly.

MSJ's defense is giving up a little over 22 ppg against teams who are a combined 7-24 (.226). FC's defense is giving up an average of  27 ppg against DIII teams who are 9-20 (.310). They both blew out common opponents Bluffton (28-12 & 38-18) and Anderson (50-23 & 61-28). MSJ hasn't played a close game yet (closest was a 9-point decision to Wilmington), whereas Franklin has (30-29 win against Trine).

I'm not hating on my Lions, but overall, I think FC would be a slight favorite for 3 reasons: 1) playing at home (I'm assuming the crowd for this game will be pretty large), 2) played a better schedule to date (Butler and Trine), and 3) has played under pressure (1 point win vs Trine).

With all that said, I think MSJ will be ready to play and have had this game circled for a long time. They win 38-35.  :)
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Quote from: Adam Sayer on October 21, 2009, 08:31:07 AM
If I could make it, I most definitely would. We have films all morning & afternoon on Saturday.

As others have stated, the difference will be turnovers. Both teams should light up the scoreboard and whoever doesn't turn it over and limit their chances will win. MSJ's defense, if they start playing like they have in the past, could help MSJ's cause greatly.

MSJ's defense is giving up a little over 22 ppg against teams who are a combined 7-24 (.226). FC's defense is giving up an average of  27 ppg against DIII teams who are 9-20 (.310). They both blew out common opponents Bluffton (28-12 & 38-18) and Anderson (50-23 & 61-28). MSJ hasn't played a close game yet (closest was a 9-point decision to Wilmington), whereas Franklin has (30-29 win against Trine).

I'm not hating on my Lions, but overall, I think FC would be a slight favorite for 3 reasons: 1) playing at home (I'm assuming the crowd for this game will be pretty large), 2) played a better schedule to date (Butler and Trine), and 3) has played under pressure (1 point win vs Trine).

With all that said, I think MSJ will be ready to play and have had this game circled for a long time. They win 38-35.  :)


Sayer... I think if Franklin gets time like Hanover did --- to throw, MSJ is in for a long day.  I really want MSJ to win because IF Thomas More loses to W&J in two weeks, then their Pool C hopes would be greater if they beat an undefeated conference champ in week 11.. in addition to the John Carroll win.  I just don't think they do..

IMO the key to this game is the FC offensive line match up with MSJ's front 7.  You'll have your answer very early on what is going to transpire over the afternoon, if you keep your eyes on this match up.
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Adam Sayer

That JC win doesn't look that great. They lost to Wilmington.
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What's everyone's opinion about Pryor's HS coach basically IMO telling Teressel how to coach his stud player?  Should the hairless nuts coach modify his coaching style for Pryor or keep doing what he's doing?

Sayer- nice breakdown of the FC/MSJ game.  I agree with your three points to Franklin's advantage except getting waxed by Butler I think wasn't helpful.  Overall, the home field & playing a tougher schedule with a tough game (Trine) works to FC advantage.  I'm still looking for MSJ's D to show up.  I'm going with Franklin 45-38, Franklin scores on a kick return after MSJ tied it up in the 4th.
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Quote from: Adam Sayer on October 21, 2009, 12:18:21 PM
That JC win doesn't look that great. They lost to Wilmington.

That takes some of the shine off of it... but lets not forget JCU gave Capital all they can handle last weekend and they have 3 games left where they make a statement beginning with Ohio Northern this weekend, Mount Union on October 31st and Otterbein on November 14th.  Its still a very good win.... because its a win against a team with a name from the OAC.  Combine that with a potential for a win in The Bridge Bowl (how big depends on how one feels about MSJ this year) and Thomas More will have a good shot at Pool C, should they drop a game during the regular season.  


Honestly, I'm excited about the Bridge Bowl even if the players/coaches can't look forward to it yet.   MUCH is owed after MSJ's dirty play after the game was settled in the 2008 Bridge Bowl.  A couple names stand out to me --- but I'm not going to call them out on here.  You'll see a very motivated TMC play fast and physical with them (only between the whistles of course)...


and YES.. I'm still bothered by you asking me to explain how to get to where I was on Friday night, only to have you say you couldn't make it.  Do you know how long that took to relay into the phone??  I was not sober, to make it worse.
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HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

Adam Sayer

If it was closer to the Deer Park/Blue Ash area, I would have come. I was meeting my buddy for a few after the game. Driving back down to the river from Blue Ash with a car that has one headlight wouldn't be a wise idea.
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Quote from: Adam Sayer on October 22, 2009, 09:32:17 AM
If it was closer to the Deer Park/Blue Ash area, I would have come. I was meeting my buddy for a few after the game. Driving back down to the river from Blue Ash with a car that has one headlight wouldn't be a wise idea.

a P-diddle?  Better fix that.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

Most Known, Unknown.

Traditionally, MSJ the past few years have had solid defenses that have been ranked nationally in many categories... with that said. I don't know what kind of front four they have, how much pressure is being generated by the defensive ends, and if they have two gap fillers in the middle. With that mouth full, Franklin has always been a good throwing team, with solid QB play, if Franklin is giving time to survey the field it can/ will be a shootout. I'm hoping hubbie will get the boy's fired up on defense, and get some timely turn-over's and control the clock, and keep Franklin offense off the field... run the ball... set up the pass, and get at the QB feet and throw him off his timing, and I think MSJ will win by a field goal 38-35... Man that's no defense being played..... Being an Alum of MSJ. .. I like a solid defense   

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Quote from: Most Known, Unknown. on October 22, 2009, 02:53:34 PM
Traditionally, MSJ the past few years

This is like a double-negative. 

It will be interesting to see what happens on Saturday.  Remember, Franklin has been tested.... MSJ has not in 2009... will that experience make a difference in the final 20 minutes of the game??  I guess we'll see...
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2