FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[70_dc_alum]

went to the bengals game yesterday with a die hard bears fan yesterday, made him sit there till the clock read 00:00.  then he had to listen to Lapham and the post game show the whole ride home.  i have to take some time off from trash talking after running my mouth that much.  now i know what it must feel like to play for W&J with that much trash talking!

[Blutarsky]

^^^Enjoy the moment!!  As a life-long Bengals fan, I've had my nose rubbed in it several times over the years.  I'm actually proud to wear my Bengals gear out in public now......who-dey!

[SaintsFAN]

went to the bengals game yesterday with a die hard bears fan yesterday, made him sit there till the clock read 00:00.  then he had to listen to Lapham and the post game show the whole ride home.  i have to take some time off from trash talking after running my mouth that much.  now i know what it must feel like to play for W&J with that much trash talking!

Same here... my buddy from Peoria IL came to town and was very hopeful about the Bears chances.  By the midpoint of the 1st Q, all he could do was keep saying "oh my god" over and over again.  The Bengals played perfectly... punted once all game and even that resulted in a 1st down as the Bears roughed the punter on 4th and 4 in the 4th Quarter.

[Adam Sayer]

i agree Manchester has had a decent turnaround but i dont see him getting coach of the year unless they beat MSJ.  i was not that impressed by them when they played DC, DC outplayed them but had some costly mistakes (missing 5pts of kicks that were just shanks in a 1 pt game).

i would have to give my vote at this point in the season to Huber...7-0 in a fairly dominating fashion with a passing game (something that has been missing for a few years).  MSJ did not have that good of a season last year and a 5 game swing in record is impressive but doing it from 5-5 to 10-0 is a lot harder than 1-9 to 6-4. 

besides Manchester finished last year 5-5 (3-4 HCAC) and right now they are 4-3 with Franklin, MSJ, and Anderson.  my guess is 5-5 again this year...with losses against 2 bad non conference teams and beating up the bottom of one of the worst bottom halves of a conference in D3.  not coach of year material compared to the turnaround MSJ has had.

Rod won coach of the year in 2002 going 4-2 in conference and 5-5 overall. We were blown out that year by Hanover, Anderson, and TMC at the end of the year, being outscored something like 115-24. We also had losses out of conference to Wilmington and KZoo...not exactly world beaters. Keep in mind we were 0-10 the year before, however. If Manchester finishes 5-2 in conference, though they were 3-4 last year, I think its a worthy honor. It would be the first time that I can remember, their program having a winning conference record.

[KYGrizzly]

Bengals sure did surprise me, I took the Bears +3.

But it was a great day to have Cedric Benson on my fantasy football team, but on the downside Cutler was my QB.

[Crutches McGee 87]

Hey.  Just curious about this.  How is the Grizzly offense with the loss of Rupp at QB?  Are they still as potent or is there a noticable drop off?  It's gotta be pretty tough to fill the shoes of that size.

[KYGrizzly]

Hey.  Just curious about this.  How is the Grizzly offense with the loss of Rupp at QB?  Are they still as potent or is there a noticable drop off?  It's gotta be pretty tough to fill the shoes of that size.

They used three different QB's last week, I would say that should answer your question.

As you said a player of Rupps caliber is always hard to find.

[SaintsFAN]

Bengals sure did surprise me, I took the Bears +3.

But it was a great day to have Cedric Benson on my fantasy football team, but on the downside Cutler was my QB.

KY --- next time you want to give money away just shoot me an email and I'll give you a number for a wire-transfer   


NOTE:  If Franklin had a QB that was "starter quality", let alone Rupp-quality then they win.   Now I'm a huge Hod Ruber supporter but I'm getting a funny feeling from this team vs what they've had to play against.   I'm not the only one... the polls are also slow to react to MSJ.

[70_dc_alum]

i head to Chicago in the AM so sports radio should be fun!  got to love chicago media quote of the day from Chicago "If it weren't for postgame handshakes, the Bears defensive linemen never would've gotten close to Carson Palmer."

in regards to the coach of year Sayer i guess if you just look at conference body of work there is a small story there but really that is only they beat RHIT and DC and move from 4th to 3rd in the conference.  problem i see is still finishes 5-5 like last year with a drop off against bad earlham and k-zoo teams.  using the same logic MSJ is going to go from same 3-4 to 7-0 and the best team they beat is DC which says a lot.

of course this assumes MSJ wins against Manchester which is not written in stone.

[KYGrizzly]

KY --- next time you want to give money away just shoot me an email and I'll give you a number for a wire-transfer   

Thanks your beginning to sound like my wife

[KYGrizzly]

NOTE:  If Franklin had a QB that was "starter quality", let alone Rupp-quality then they win.   Now I'm a huge Hod Ruber supporter but I'm getting a funny feeling from this team vs what they've had to play against.   I'm not the only one... the polls are also slow to react to MSJ.

What do you feel it takes to be a QB with starter quality in D3.

Since you were a D3 QB and probably take in more games than many of us here that you should have a good input.

[SaintsFAN]

What do you feel it takes to be a QB with starter quality in D3.

Since you were a D3 QB and probably take in more games than many of us here that you should have a good input.

I think you have starter quality at QB if the game has slowed down for the QB --- he is able to make clear decisions on what audibles work against the defense he's seeing and can make throws from the different platforms (depending on how much pressure he's feeling). 

My feeling is what you are seeing at Franklin, not uncommon for 1st time starters, is that everything is moving too fast for the kids playing QB.  Whomever has the game slow down for them 1st.... will be the starter at FC for the next couple years... THEN, he can settle down and just make plays... like backyard football ala Chad Rupp (though admittedly probably NOT as good as CR was).

Thats my opinoin..

[GRIZ_BACKER]

What do you feel it takes to be a QB with starter quality in D3.

Since you were a D3 QB and probably take in more games than many of us here that you should have a good input.

I think you have starter quality at QB if the game has slowed down for the QB --- he is able to make clear decisions on what audibles work against the defense he's seeing and can make throws from the different platforms (depending on how much pressure he's feeling). 

My feeling is what you are seeing at Franklin, not uncommon for 1st time starters, is that everything is moving too fast for the kids playing QB.  Whomever has the game slow down for them 1st.... will be the starter at FC for the next couple years... THEN, he can settle down and just make plays... like backyard football ala Chad Rupp (though admittedly probably NOT as good as CR was).

Thats my opinoin..

Saints Fan,

I think you make a good point.  I can recall when Rupp was a freshman and a sophomore and while you knew he had some real talent he wasn't tearing up the conference like he did his last two years.  Both Wray and Purichia  have had some good moments but they are essentially first year signal callers even though they are juniors with mostly new receivers as well.  Being 5-2 with both losses coming to teams yet to lose is nothing to be ashamed of.

It remains to be seen how good MSJ really is. I think they run the table but are at the mercy of the seeding process.  I can seem them getting somebody like Bash or Trine at home (if they are lucky). MSJ will get a home game if they stay unbeaten. IMO.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

But they were still a playoff team. Last year they finished with a losing record in conference play.

MSJ...2009 HCAC Champions

Nice banner

[Crutches McGee 87]

Hey.  Just curious about this.  How is the Grizzly offense with the loss of Rupp at QB?  Are they still as potent or is there a noticable drop off?  It's gotta be pretty tough to fill the shoes of that size.

They used three different QB's last week, I would say that should answer your question.

As you said a player of Rupps caliber is always hard to find.

Thanks KY.  I've seen Rupp play twice in the post season (with a record of 1-1) and was impressed both years.  Especially when they came in last year and beat my beloved  North Central College Cardinals.  Maybe you can come to IL to find a Rupp caliber QB... if you can take them away from NCC  .