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Adam Sayer

#4650
I never said anything about how they would do in the HCAC, but MSJ would beat that team easily. Fact is, they are on the same level as Franklin which in turn would imply RHIT could beat them as well. Franklin at least has a win against a probable playoff team. Geneva can't seem to play, let alone beat, anyone with a winning record. So to answer your question, they would be an 8-2/7-3 HCAC team.

Notes:
The past 2 seasons, Geneva is 1-4 against teams with a winning record. That lone victory was 17-13 win, November 8 against TMC.

Geneva is 2-0 against TMC winning both games by a combined 5 points.
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dc_has_been

I'm going to agree with Sayer that Geneva should be no match for TMC.  I am hoping though that TMC is taking this week very seriously though. 
On the TMC/MSJ match up coming it should be HUGE if both teams win this weekend.  TMC would be the #2 in the South (really should be #1 with more in region victories than Wesley & Hampden having a bye.  MSJ will probably stay at #3 if Witt beats Allegheny but will crack the top 25 if & I mean if they beat DC.  There will be a lot of hype & I'm hoping both teams will bring their A game to the table.
"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
Will Rogers
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
Mike Ditka

SaintsFAN

all I'm saying is the people who know football in and around the PAC are saying Geneva is an up and comer. 

Their Super Bowl is this Saturday and MSJ's is the following Saturday.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

KYGrizzly

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 05, 2009, 12:34:57 PM
all I'm saying is the people who know football are saying Geneva is an up and comer. 

Their Super Bowl is this Saturday and MSJ's is the following Saturday.

News Flash!!!

SaintsFAN says Adam Sayer knows nothing about football.

Hope you liked my selective news editing report. ;D

SaintsFAN

Quote from: KYGrizzly on November 05, 2009, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 05, 2009, 12:34:57 PM
all I'm saying is the people who know football are saying Geneva is an up and comer. 

Their Super Bowl is this Saturday and MSJ's is the following Saturday.

News Flash!!!

SaintsFAN says Adam Sayer knows nothing about football.

Hope you liked my selective news editing report. ;D

obviously!!!  ask him what his teams' records are while he's been at Purcell Marion  --- this should elicit a good response from him
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

dc_has_been

Even though it has already started, I'm looking forward to a lot of trash talk after this Saturday! 
"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
Will Rogers
"If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms."
Mike Ditka

cave2bens

Quote from: dc_has_been on November 05, 2009, 02:53:47 PM
Even though it has already started, I'm looking forward to a lot of trash talk after this Saturday! 

It's Cincinnati - from jr high to pro levels, do they know anything but?  ;D ;D ;D ;)
"Forever more as in days of yore Their deeds be noble and grand"

SaintsFAN

#4657
Quote from: cave2bens on November 05, 2009, 03:00:31 PM
Quote from: dc_has_been on November 05, 2009, 02:53:47 PM
Even though it has already started, I'm looking forward to a lot of trash talk after this Saturday!  

It's Cincinnati - from jr high to pro levels, do they know anything but?  ;D ;D ;D ;)

at the HS level --- Ohio knows ... at the D3 college level ---- KY knows   ;)


TMC has to get through this week of revenge and then its Bridge Bowl week ---- but as fans, I'm able to look forward to what we are going to do in Delhi next Saturday.  


Its not just me saying it... see below:

Quote from: HScoach on November 04, 2009, 06:33:53 PM
That is where the OAC's 9 game conference season schedule hurts them.  They only have 1 chance of out conference to gain some points. 

There is no debate that the strength of the IWU, Wheaton and NCC's schedule is light years ahead of Wittenberg, Case and MSJ.  I'd easily pick a 7-3 CCIW or OAC team against a 10-0 version of those three teams.  Anytime.  Anywhere. 
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

cave2bens

Comment was targeted at the "smack" between you and Sayer - nothin' else.  ;D

If I'd not seen the Witt-'Bash game, I'd agree with HSCoach, but I did - and then watched the replay.  While not at MUC, MUU, or UMU level - whatever they are called at this juncture, Wittenberg was certainly for real on the 17th ;)
"Forever more as in days of yore Their deeds be noble and grand"

Adam Sayer

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 05, 2009, 02:22:48 PM
Quote from: KYGrizzly on November 05, 2009, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 05, 2009, 12:34:57 PM
all I'm saying is the people who know football are saying Geneva is an up and comer. 

Their Super Bowl is this Saturday and MSJ's is the following Saturday.

News Flash!!!

SaintsFAN says Adam Sayer knows nothing about football.

Hope you liked my selective news editing report. ;D

obviously!!!  ask him what his teams' records are while he's been at Purcell Marion  --- this should elicit a good response from him

2-8, 1-9, and 1-9. However, I've been the O-line coach 2 years and we have averaged over 100 yards rushing per game and 2 different RB's have been named 1st team GCL.

The last 2 years we have "competed" against other teams in the GCL (not so much this year but we were down 28-22, 28-20, and 12-3 going into the 4th quarter against McNick, Chaminade, and Badin). Though we haven't won, we have been close and had chances to win (last year we lost 7 games by a TD or less). My first year they averaged getting beat 33-6 and the years before wasn't any better.

I've called plays 2 times this year. The first time we scored more points and had more yards than any other GCL game  we played and the second time was against Alter. We scored more points against their varsity team than any other GCL team scored on them. If our QB makes the proper throw on a fake bubble-slant at the end of the game (he threw the bubble though the safety and corner ran up on it leaving the slant wide open in the endzone), we would have scored 21 which would have matched the highest point total Alter gave up all year...to a DI school.

I don't have a problem admitting when I'm wrong or screw up, but Purcell's problem is far from having me.  There are A LOT of things that go on that I disgree with and think should he done/handled differently but I'm not the head coach and there's only so much I can do regarding player accountability.
I'm a man, but sometimes I want to smell like a different smelling man!

SaintsFAN

You need to move on from that school.. And stop taking me so seriously.. Maybe I shouldn't say anything next week? I don't want to make you feel bad..
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

SaintsFAN

Besides that, you should get 100 yards when the 1st team offense faces the JV Team during the 2nd half!  :)


Its almost Bridge Bowl week.. I can't wait
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

SaintsFAN

Massey Ratings are out for college football...

http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?s=94988&t=11620&o=1


Thomas More is 24th in D3 and MSJ 54th. 

This is a similar formula to the BCS. 
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

Adam Sayer

#4663
I don't feel bad...just setting the record straight and in all honesty I may be looking at my "options" in a few months. I get a heck of a deal through the archdiocese on my Master's degree and that's really the only thing keeping me on Hackberry. Its one thing when a couple sports have a down year here and there, but every sport at Purcell gets beaten like a drum (exception: Swimming and wrestling) and its been going on for 4-5 years. Other than those 2 sports, nothing else has success. It's a losing culture and the whole school community is infected. Being 1 coach with limited control its tough to alter any perceptions.

As far as the Bridge Bowl is concerned, you're not telling me anything different than what I know. TMC plays defense. They may have a top-5 defense. I'm a believer that Defenses wins games so I think TMC has the advantage in this game. If this was any MSJ team in the past, there would be ZERO chance of them winning. This year's team has a chance because they have a good QB for once and thus far, this is the best offense in MSJ history (with all due respect to 2004, this offense can run and throw...we just ran the ball and did it well). On the contrary, this may be TMC's best defense ever. You had some good ones in the mid-90's, but I don't think any of them have shut down teams as often as this team has.
I'm a man, but sometimes I want to smell like a different smelling man!

SaintsFAN

#4664
Quote from: Adam Sayer on November 06, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
On the contrary, this may be TMC's best defense ever. You had some good ones in the mid-90's, but I don't think any of them have shut down teams as often as this team has.

I agree.  This is probably the best defense the school has had.  They take away the run and make teams one-dimensional, thus giving them the ability to rush the passer.  They did this last Saturday at W&J --- and Tyler Owens at nose tackle was unstoppable.  When they rushed 3 or 4, the Saints were still getting pressure on the QB.  This helped them to make W&J very below average, offensively ---- even with the playmakers they have on offense.  I can't wait to see what this translates to in The Bridge Bowl.  

I don't think TMC is the heavy favorite -- but they've played much better competition up to this point.


MSJ's QB has some good stats --- two things jump out at me, though.  ONLY BEEN SACKED 5 times this year.  And,  a #1 WR who is averaging 20 per catch with 11 TDs on 38 catches.   We'll see how our stud freshman CB's match up with him. 

It doesn't look like (through the numbers) that the QB has been pressured much.   Against the RHIT and Franklin, the #1 WR combined for 6 catches 64 yards and 1 TD. 

They've gotten alot of big plays through the air
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2