FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[dc_has_been]

Wabash was never an option..

HCAC missed out on having a football power when The Old Hag who is President at MSJ vetoed having the Saints join... All because of "academics", she said.. Which is bunk.. TMC is equal to or better academically than Defiance, Bluffton, Anderson AND her little school, Mount St Joseph.

Sayer you can thank her for that.. Earlham is the best they are gonna get. 

So not true!  You have to be able to wear shoes & not marry within the family to attend DC, BC, AC, & MSJ.

[dc_has_been]

Like I told Kevin last week, I think the primary focus of the coaching staff and players this week was on TMC. The scout team may have been running DC's offense and defense, but the focus wasnt on them. The DC game meant absolutely nothing.

That's the sign of a top notch program. 

[Adam Sayer]

I don't think MSJ has been planning for TMC the whole year, however, it wouldn't suprise me if they had people scouting at Thiel in addition to the W & J/Geneva tapes they exchanged. When you throw in the game films from TMC last year, they will have plenty of data in the computer souting system.

They will be prepared for that defense and will put TMC's defense in situations where they are outnumbered at the point of attack or people are open downfield...at which point it will come down to execution. MSJ will have limited opportunities, which means they have to execute when the situation presents itself...unlike Jimmy Clausen (2 TO's inside the 5-yard line)

On a side note: UC's quarterback accounted for 555 total yards last night and the whole offense put up over 700. I love Brian Kelly's quote where he stated "Our offense will score no matter who is under center." Not many people can make that claim. Kevin...as much as you would like Kelly at ND, I don't see ND wanting to part with coaches who run a Pro-Style offense. They may want to win, but they want to get players in the NFL just as much.

[SaintsFAN]

Congrats to MSJ making the real top 25.. They are 25th this week..

[KYGrizzly]

Wabash was never an option..

HCAC missed out on having a football power when The Old Hag who is President at MSJ vetoed having the Saints join... All because of "academics", she said.. Which is bunk.. TMC is equal to or better academically than Defiance, Bluffton, Anderson AND her little school, Mount St Joseph.

Sayer you can thank her for that.. Earlham is the best they are gonna get. 

So not true!  You have to be able to wear shoes & not marry within the family to attend DC, BC, AC, & MSJ.

I hope this wasn't supposed to be a joke on all Kentuckians.

[dc_has_been]

Wabash was never an option..

HCAC missed out on having a football power when The Old Hag who is President at MSJ vetoed having the Saints join... All because of "academics", she said.. Which is bunk.. TMC is equal to or better academically than Defiance, Bluffton, Anderson AND her little school, Mount St Joseph.

Sayer you can thank her for that.. Earlham is the best they are gonna get. 

So not true!  You have to be able to wear shoes & not marry within the family to attend DC, BC, AC, & MSJ.

I hope this wasn't supposed to be a joke on all Kentuckians.

No just for SaintsFan. I have to throw something at him with all of his wonderful remarks about DC .
I will always remember getting off the bus in Crestview & actually see a kid with overalls on & no undershirt & no shoes giving us high fives.   

[cave2bens]

I will always remember getting off the bus in Crestview & actually see a kid with overalls on & no undershirt & no shoes giving us high fives.   

Go back 36-38 years ago, and most of us at Defiance looked like that out of choice. 

[SaintsFAN]

Wabash was never an option..

HCAC missed out on having a football power when The Old Hag who is President at MSJ vetoed having the Saints join... All because of "academics", she said.. Which is bunk.. TMC is equal to or better academically than Defiance, Bluffton, Anderson AND her little school, Mount St Joseph.

Sayer you can thank her for that.. Earlham is the best they are gonna get. 

So not true!  You have to be able to wear shoes & not marry within the family to attend DC, BC, AC, & MSJ.

I hope this wasn't supposed to be a joke on all Kentuckians.

No just for SaintsFan. I have to throw something at him with all of his wonderful remarks about DC .
I will always remember getting off the bus in Crestview & actually see a kid with overalls on & no undershirt & no shoes giving us high fives.   

I live on the Ohio side now... since 2005.  I agree... there are a ton of rednecks down there.  A few of my 'mates were from way down south near Flemingsburg KY... probably was his little brother or something.

[SaintsFAN]

Kevin...as much as you would like Kelly at ND, I don't see ND wanting to part with coaches who run a Pro-Style offense. They may want to win, but they want to get players in the NFL just as much.

HUH?  the practically begged Urban Meyer to come last time --- he's not running a pro-style offense.   Thats not going to matter.  Lou Holtz didn't run a pro style offense and he's the last one who won up there.  How long its been since he's been good is what also matters.  ND is going to relax the requirements a little bit and pay Meyer or Kelly (my money is on Kelly) $5M / year.   Thats the only way to fix this mess.

My Uncle played for USNA back around when Staubach was there.  Anyhow, he went to the game and was in Cincy last night on his way back to Annapolis.  He was very happy with the 2nd win in 3 years (should that happen ever at ND?) and I thanked him for putting Front Butt Chuck out on his ass. 

Meanwhile, Kelly is not happy with the lack of progress on the practice facility/bubble and that would reduce his buyout to nearly zero --- because they are so far behind.  Combine that and the fact no matter what UC does ---- the BCS formula is going to keep them out of the Title game and you'll see Kelly make the move if the Domers come and get him. 

[SaintsFAN]

http://nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20091108/SPT/911090344


This Saturday's Bridge Bowl football game between Thomas More College and the College of Mount St. Joseph should be interesting and not just because both teams are 9-0 and have already clinched spots in the NCAA Division III playoffs. There is some bad blood left from last year's game especially in the fact that Thomas More running back Kendall Owens suffered an injury on what was believed to be a cheap shot. ...

[KYGrizzly]

I live on the Ohio side now... since 2005.  I agree... there are a ton of rednecks down there.  A few of my 'mates were from way down south near Flemingsburg KY... probably was his little brother or something.
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Since when did they move Flemingsburg to the southern part of the state.

dc-has-been,
I am used to the barefoot joke, I would always tell the boys up in Franklin that every time we headed north and crossed the Ohio river they would stop us and make us put our shoes on.

[dc_has_been]

That's hilarious KYGrizzly!!!  Coming from the Detroit area I have to say I've seen plenty of barefooted, midriff wearing, 5 cars parked in the front lawn with no engine or tires WT.  So really can't talk to much trash.

[SaintsFAN]

its south of Cincy, kygrizzly!!


Just listened to the ATN Podcast ---- it mentions the Bridge Bowl at the end.  

Let me first say that if you havent' had a chance to listen to these things --- you are missing out.  They are great for learning about what is going on across the country.  

2nd... on the Bridge Bowl... they had to say:

*Winner will host at least 1 playoff game.  I know that Thomas More has put in to host for the playoffs.  The pressbox is fully operational.  A couple parents from Geneva said they've never seen a tailgate like TMC had.  It was actually surprisingly good.  There was alot of people there, weather was great.  The "TMC fever" has caught on.  I DON'T think its anywhere near as good as Franklin... but I've been to other stadiums and i think the tailgate is unique and very good size.  I don't know of anywhere else where you don't have to leave your tailgate spot so you can watch the game.   That said --- its awfully important for TMC to win the Bridge Bowl to continue the momentum in bringing people to the games.  I saw alot of old teammates on Saturday --- people who haven't been to the games since we played.  

*If MSJ loses, they will be a road team next weekend...

*If Thomas More loses, they could still host a playoff game


other thoughts... not from the podcast:

Beating MSJ would help move Thomas More to maybe the top of the South Regional Rankings.  TMC currently sits 3rd... but #2 Hampden-Sydney College plays a 6-3 Randolph Macon team who has a schedule strength of 221.  MSJ has a schedule strength of 193.  That seems like a wash, they are both pretty low but then you factor in who TMC has played (TMC is 157) and HSC is 213 --- that should be enough to move up to #2 with a win over a team the North Region Committee has ranked at #3.  

Current South Region #1, Wesley plays their 2nd straight non-D3 opponent in Ohio Dominican on Saturday, which will leave them with only 5 South Region wins.  Its an outside chance, though... because Wesley owns a convincing 31-13 on the road at Delaware Valley, The East Region's probable top Ranked team this week after the top 2 (Alfred and Albright) lost last weekend.

As Pat likes to say... its all about who you've beaten.  

If TMC wins on Saturday they would own two victories over Regionally Ranked teams.  Their case would be stronger (but still a little flimsy) if they were the team at 9-1 following Saturday.   Now I hope that TMC takes care of business on the field and at the same time that MSJ doesn't fall far enough that they have to play Whitewater on the road in Round 1.   I don't think they would fall behind Trine or Concordia IL -- but stranger things have happened.

[dc_has_been]

If MSJ falls I would see them at a 6 seed playing CWRU or Ill. Wesleyan.  If TMC falls then they will probably only drop to a 4 seed hosting Miss. College.

[SaintsFAN]

If MSJ falls I would see them at a 6 seed playing CWRU or Ill. Wesleyan.  If TMC falls then they will probably only drop to a 4 seed hosting Miss. College.

I can also see the committee moving TMC to North because of travel considerations... win or lose.  If they win and Wabash loses, they'd be a #2 in the North ---- with a win and a Wabash win --- strengthening Witt's case, they'd be a #3 in North.  

Lose and who the hell knows where they go. . .  but it couldn't be worse than going N8 as they did last year and playing the #1 seed in the North.