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[KYGrizzly]

its south of Cincy, kygrizzly!!

Sorry, but when you said way down south I was expecting it to be farther than 70 miles or so.

Also, isn't just about everywhere in Kentucky south of Cincy.

By the way good luck with TMC against MSJ this weekend.

[SaintsFAN]

its south of Cincy, kygrizzly!!

Sorry, but when you said way down south I was expecting it to be farther than 70 miles or so.

Also, isn't just about everywhere in Kentucky south of Cincy.

By the way good luck with TMC against MSJ this weekend.

Thanks.  Sayer's silence is deafening this week... 

[GRIZ_BACKER]

I live on the Ohio side now... since 2005.  I agree... there are a ton of rednecks down there.  A few of my 'mates were from way down south near Flemingsburg KY... probably was his little brother or something.

Since when did they move Flemingsburg to the southern part of the state.


Let it be known the KYGRIZZLY has brought and ridden a motorized beer cooler in the FC Touchdown Club parking lot. (he was wearing shoes as I recall)

[formerd3db]

Kevin...as much as you would like Kelly at ND, I don't see ND wanting to part with coaches who run a Pro-Style offense. They may want to win, but they want to get players in the NFL just as much.

HUH?  the practically begged Urban Meyer to come last time --- he's not running a pro-style offense.   Thats not going to matter.  Lou Holtz didn't run a pro style offense and he's the last one who won up there.  How long its been since he's been good is what also matters.  ND is going to relax the requirements a little bit and pay Meyer or Kelly (my money is on Kelly) $5M / year.   Thats the only way to fix this mess.

My Uncle played for USNA back around when Staubach was there.  Anyhow, he went to the game and was in Cincy last night on his way back to Annapolis.  He was very happy with the 2nd win in 3 years (should that happen ever at ND?) and I thanked him for putting Front Butt Chuck out on his ass.  

Meanwhile, Kelly is not happy with the lack of progress on the practice facility/bubble and that would reduce his buyout to nearly zero --- because they are so far behind.  Combine that and the fact no matter what UC does ---- the BCS formula is going to keep them out of the Title game and you'll see Kelly make the move if the Domers come and get him.  

Athough perhaps a long shot, you cannot count out the possibility as yet that Kelly could go to U of Mich if they canned Rodriguez earlier than some are predicting.  While that would cost U of Mich a ton of $ (and wasted for that matter with regards to how it would have all come about from originally pursuing Rodriguez - which IMO was mistake to begin with), they've done some stange things in recent years and it wouldn't surprise me if that occurred.  They should have considered Kelly when he was looking to leave CMU if that were possible.  While MSU got a good coach in Dantonio, Kelly would have done just as well I believe.  Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens with all this.  Sportscasters were talking about former Raiders/Bucs coach Jon "G" being interested in the ND job.  Wasn't he a ballboy there while growing up?  I thought I had heard that somewhere, but obviously could be wrong.

[MUCheats]

Kevin...as much as you would like Kelly at ND, I don't see ND wanting to part with coaches who run a Pro-Style offense. They may want to win, but they want to get players in the NFL just as much.

HUH?  the practically begged Urban Meyer to come last time --- he's not running a pro-style offense.   Thats not going to matter.  Lou Holtz didn't run a pro style offense and he's the last one who won up there.  How long its been since he's been good is what also matters.  ND is going to relax the requirements a little bit and pay Meyer or Kelly (my money is on Kelly) $5M / year.   Thats the only way to fix this mess.

My Uncle played for USNA back around when Staubach was there.  Anyhow, he went to the game and was in Cincy last night on his way back to Annapolis.  He was very happy with the 2nd win in 3 years (should that happen ever at ND?) and I thanked him for putting Front Butt Chuck out on his ass. 

Meanwhile, Kelly is not happy with the lack of progress on the practice facility/bubble and that would reduce his buyout to nearly zero --- because they are so far behind.  Combine that and the fact no matter what UC does ---- the BCS formula is going to keep them out of the Title game and you'll see Kelly make the move if the Domers come and get him. 

Athough perhaps a long shot, you cannot count out the possibility as yet that Kelly could go to U of Mich if they canned Rodriguez earlier than some are predicting.  While that would cost U of Mich a ton of $ (and wasted for that matter with regards to how it would have all come about from originally pursuing Rodriguez - which IMO was mistake to begin with), they've done some stange things in recent years and it wouldn't surprise me if that occurred.  They should have considered Kelly when he was looking to leave CMU if that were possible.  While MSU got a good coach in Dantonio, Kelly would have done just as well I believe.  Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens with all this.  Sportscasters were talking about former Raiders/Bucs coach John "G" being interested in the ND job.  Wasn't he a ballboy there while growing up?  I thought I had heard that somewhere, but obviously could be wrong.

Jon Gruden would jump at the chance to coach at Notre Dame.  He did indeed grow up around the program as his dad was an assistant for the Irish.  Not sure if he was a ballboy for the team, but it wouldn't surprise me.

[Raider 68]

Kevin...as much as you would like Kelly at ND, I don't see ND wanting to part with coaches who run a Pro-Style offense. They may want to win, but they want to get players in the NFL just as much.

HUH?  the practically begged Urban Meyer to come last time --- he's not running a pro-style offense.   Thats not going to matter.  Lou Holtz didn't run a pro style offense and he's the last one who won up there.  How long its been since he's been good is what also matters.  ND is going to relax the requirements a little bit and pay Meyer or Kelly (my money is on Kelly) $5M / year.   Thats the only way to fix this mess.

My Uncle played for USNA back around when Staubach was there.  Anyhow, he went to the game and was in Cincy last night on his way back to Annapolis.  He was very happy with the 2nd win in 3 years (should that happen ever at ND?) and I thanked him for putting Front Butt Chuck out on his ass. 

Meanwhile, Kelly is not happy with the lack of progress on the practice facility/bubble and that would reduce his buyout to nearly zero --- because they are so far behind.  Combine that and the fact no matter what UC does ---- the BCS formula is going to keep them out of the Title game and you'll see Kelly make the move if the Domers come and get him. 

Athough perhaps a long shot, you cannot count out the possibility as yet that Kelly could go to U of Mich if they canned Rodriguez earlier than some are predicting.  While that would cost U of Mich a ton of $ (and wasted for that matter with regards to how it would have all come about from originally pursuing Rodriguez - which IMO was mistake to begin with), they've done some stange things in recent years and it wouldn't surprise me if that occurred.  They should have considered Kelly when he was looking to leave CMU if that were possible.  While MSU got a good coach in Dantonio, Kelly would have done just as well I believe.  Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens with all this.  Sportscasters were talking about former Raiders/Bucs coach John "G" being interested in the ND job.  Wasn't he a ballboy there while growing up?  I thought I had heard that somewhere, but obviously could be wrong.

Rodriguez has turned out to be a poor choice for U of M. He stuck it to WV,
caused all kind of off field issues and does not have the class of a Lloyd
Carr in my opinion. U of M needs to find a good man. Kelly could be that guy, but he needs to stay where he is for awhile. Michigan does not need
a Nick Saban type, who  could jump ship at every chance he gets.

On Notre Dame, they also made a poor choice in Weiss. ND, with a great
history needs desperately to regain some prominence at D1, but have been
a non-factor since Lou left.

[formerd3db]

Raider, Carroll and Sayer:
Yes, that is the one drawback about Kelly.  He has shown "Saben" tendencies so far.  I have never been a fan of Ridriguez, Saben, nor Weis and certainly not Holtz.  Anyway, I think eveyone will agree that it will be interesting to see what eventually happens in these coaching situations in potential question.  

[KYGrizzly]

I live on the Ohio side now... since 2005.  I agree... there are a ton of rednecks down there.  A few of my 'mates were from way down south near Flemingsburg KY... probably was his little brother or something.

Since when did they move Flemingsburg to the southern part of the state.


Let it be known the KYGRIZZLY has brought and ridden a motorized beer cooler in the FC Touchdown Club parking lot. (he was wearing shoes as I recall)

I think you have me mistaken for someone else. But the man  you are talking about is also a Kentuckian and lives in Louisville who is an alumni of Franklin. He does have a motorized beer cart that he rides around on and does wear shoes.

I am just a parent of a Franklin alumni who just got married this past weekend to another Franklin alumni.

[KYGrizzly]

Jon Gruden would jump at the chance to coach at Notre Dame.  He did indeed grow up around the program as his dad was an assistant for the Irish.  Not sure if he was a ballboy for the team, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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There's no way he is going to Notre Dame, all the Univeristy of Louisville Cardinal fans down here are convinced he is going to be their next football coach.

[SaintsFAN]

its south of Cincy, kygrizzly!!

Sorry, but when you said way down south I was expecting it to be farther than 70 miles or so.

Also, isn't just about everywhere in Kentucky south of Cincy.

By the way good luck with TMC against MSJ this weekend.

Thanks.  Sayer's silence is deafening this week... 

"Remember" is the word for the week. 

[MUCheats]

There's no way he is going to Notre Dame, all the Univeristy of Louisville Cardinal fans down here are convinced he is going to be their next football coach.

We'll see, I've heard talks of him possibly going to Louisville, too, but that was before Notre Dame started tanking.  If that Notre Dame job opens up, the dominoes are going to start falling.

[Adam Sayer]

Sayer's been busy.

I feel TMC is the favorite. Doesn't mean I don't think MSJ can't win. I was worried regarding the FC game, but turns out FC isn't as good as we thought. I think this may be TMC's best team, at least the best defensive team. It will be tough and take a solid offensive game plan (not to mention a lack of mistakes) for MSJ to win, but they can pull it off.

Overall, I think the game is more important to MSJ than TMC. TMC has a history of success and has won in the playoffs. MSJ has domnated the HCAC and that's it. Outside of that Illinois Wesleyan win in 2006, MSJ hasn't really won a game against quality competition. This game would go a long way of changing that and change the attitude of the program. They expect to win HCAC games, but they need to want and expect greater things. The 3 wins MSJ has against TMC are against average TMC teams. A win on Saturday would make up for a lot of past defeats and would give MSJ a home playoff game (something I think TMC had as well) and confidence going into the playoffs.

[SaintsFAN]

"Oh, we'll have to play our best game of the season and we'll need them to make some mistakes," Huber said matter-of-factly. "They're better than us. That's no secret. We hope to close the gap this year, be close in the fourth quarter with a chance to win. They beat us up and down the field last year."   -Rod Huber in ATR this week

There's quite a bit of hyperbole in there, I think.  That or he views this team as being a year away and this is all to prep for 2010.

TMC has been putting the ball on the ground in recent weeks.  MSJ will have their chances on Saturday.

And yes, Adam... TMC won a home playoff game before getting beat by Wittenburg in 2001.

Overall, I think the game is more important to MSJ than TMC.

Not true

[dc_has_been]

I think this game could either way.  I think MSJ is still underrated & the PAC over hyped for how good that conference is.  Now, I don't think HCAC is at PAC level that's for sure, but other than TMC & W&J who else do they have?  I know Geneva has a good record, but they beat up on sub par teams & is their schedule correct, playing St. Vincent twice?  Even W&J beat up terrible nonconference teams. TMC & MSJ both beat bottom teams from the OAC which would probably be top tier teams everywhere else too.  All in all, I think this could be a pretty good game.

[Adam Sayer]

He's being honest and a lot of that is coach speak. You want him to say they are the better team and MSJ will whip them all over the field??? Come on now. I never did see "The hit" but according to peeps, that is all the motivation TMC needs...I don't think Hubie wants to give them anything else to put on the board.

Hasbeen, I think MSJ is underrated, but regardless of who TMC played, their varsity D has only given up around 7 points per game this year. That's top notch for any program in any conference.