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BlueRebel94

I e-mailed the two articles to Lance this today as well as two others this week but no response (he had been responding to my prior e-mails for the last few weeks).  

As for Sayer, you can't display a trophy you have not even won 4 times (personal record happens to be the first four BBs).
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SaintsFAN

Quote from: BlueRebel94 on November 12, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
I e-mailed the two articles to Lance this today as well as two others this week but no response (he had been responding to my prior e-mails for the last few weeks).  

As for Sayer, you can't display a trophy you have not even won 4 times (personal record happens to be the first four BBs).


haha... +K   

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formerd3db

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2009, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: altor on November 12, 2009, 11:27:37 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 12, 2009, 08:06:08 AM
one side only like most D3 stadiums

Really, most D3 stadiums only have seating on one side?  Granted, my experience has been limited, but I wonder what the numbers are.

Let's see, I've been to Defiance, Trine, Bluffton, Manchester, Ohio Wesleyan (for a track meet, not football), Albion, Adrian (when they played at the high school), and Thomas More.  The only place I remember not having seats on the far side was TMC (my recollection of the old Adrian stadium is a little hazy...I was only about 8 at the time).  Granted, the number and quality of seats on the far sideline at most of these places is way too low.

I've been by Wittenberg and thought it had seats on both sides, but looking on Google Maps, that must be a one-sider too.  Perhaps it used to have seats on both sides and they took out the visiting bleachers for the all-weather track?

As for TMC, I just thought it was a quirk because of how they had built the football field into the side of a hill.  Does MSJ have this problem too?

MSJ is not built into a hill and TMC isn't either (anymore -- they bulldozed it).  Both have one-side seating.  I'd say that probably 60 % has one-side seating..  W&J and most of the PAC schools do.  Same with John Carroll, I believe.  I remember Wittenburg only having one side, it made it a little more uncomfortable as TMC traveled well up there.  Leading the schools that dont just have one side are:  St. Johns (lead d3 in attendance annually), UW-W (Perkins is the biggest stadium in D3), and Mount Union (whos stadium is REALLY cool).

Quote from: Adam Sayer on November 12, 2009, 11:19:18 AM
He doesn't have today's up yet?

Kevin, you know if/when Hilvert and Hubie will be on 700 WLW or any other stations or the local news channels?

I haven't heard anything yet.  We've been trying to get Lance Mcalister to mention this on his blog.  He's had both on his show before --- now that he has the show on wlw you would think they'd be on there this week too..  

As far as our MIAA, Adrian's new stadium has two-sided seating as did their old one, Maple Stadium, which they shared with the h.s..  That old stadium was actually built into a bowl-shaped hill, so was quite neat.  Their new one has some endzone seating as well so that is great too.

Hope, Kazoo, Alma, Albion, Olivet and Trine all have visitors stands as well i.e. two-sided seating.  Hope shares its stadium with Holland H.S. and it is owned by the City of Holland, but it is a U-shaped stadium with permanent seating built into both sides and the hill-side endzone is usually filled with students.  The other schools have smaller bleacher type visitor's seating but those are nice (Kazoo's sits in a large, natural hill also).  Of course, Trine is building their new stadium currently, but will still have a two-sided stadium.  

Playing surfaces:  Adrian, Alma, Olivet and Trine have the new synthetic turf; Hope, Albion and Kazoo have natural turf.  Hope is "hoping" to get the new turf one way or another (via themselves or the city), however, that is an on-going situation that needs to be resolved.  The playing turf conditions were very bad due to the mud and torn up grass mid-season.

Don't forget B-W's stadium in Ohio, an actuall full sided bowl.  Denison's in Ohio is also two sided and built into a hill, bowl-shaped and very neat atmosphere.  That great "old time" two-sided stadium built back in 1928?, Shelby at Ohio Wesleyan is one of my favorites.  

I could go on and on about other stadiums, however, won't and just thought I'd share the above with you all since you were discussing the subject.



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nittanybacker

I emailed Lance yesterday asking him if he was going to have anything on the Bridge Bowl.  He emailed me back that night and said he would have both coaches on.  I am assuming that it is going to be tomorrow night.  I haven't seen anything on his blog for the last two nights.

BlueRebel94

Lance has got the Bridge Bowl on his blog with both coaches as guest today as well as the link to the article on the history of the BB.

http://1530homer.com/pages/lancesBlog.html
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footballmsj

long time looker.....first time poster...... SAYER I think you will know me very well sir.  We had a lovely discussion after the bacon/purcell game about how undedicated some of your kids were plus I played with you at the mount. 


Anyways I am wondering I know the winner should be guaranteed a home playoff game but would they keep both teams in the same region??
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BlueRebel94

Quote from: footballmsj on November 13, 2009, 08:53:27 AM

Anyways I am wondering I know the winner should be guaranteed a home playoff game but would they keep both teams in the same region??

I assume you saw the projected 32 team field with TMC and MSJ in the same region (#3/#7 respectively).  The rationale there and on most of these posts is that either TMC or MSJ could be moved to either the North or South region due to locale and traveling.  The projected opponent for TMC (with the assumption that they win on Saturday) is UMHB from Texas and that makes sense due to TMC's proximity to the airport.  If TMC were to lose, I could see them a lower seed in the North because they could bus to most every team there.  Obviously, Saturday's Bridge Bowl has a large impact not only on hosting a first round game but possibly which region the teams land in, all with the potential for both in the same one.
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70_dc_alum

Only 1 sided stadium i ever played in was against TMC at the high school.  must be a northern KY thing that you can never figure out how to put stands on both sides.  did W&J get a new place.  i swear i remember turning to find my parents in the stands on the visitors side back in the 97 season.  the locker rooms and anythign nice was ont he Home side but there were stands behind us.

Wittenburg is 1 sided becuase i remember watching Alma in a playoff game there and was on the home side thinking how dorky thier fans were for holding keys in the air on 3rd down yelling "key play"

Pat Coleman

Quote from: dc_has_been on November 11, 2009, 11:18:51 AM
I think this game could either way.  I think MSJ is still underrated & the PAC over hyped for how good that conference is.

Who's overhyping the PAC? We ranked the conference 13th out of the 27. That's not exactly hype.
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Pat Coleman

 I think the majority of D-III schools have seating on both sides, actually.
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Pat Coleman

Going back through my notes, of the 67 D-III stadiums I've been in, 59 have seating on both sides of the field. Those that don't: Augsburg, Capital, Catholic, Coast Guard, Gallaudet, Occidental, UW-Stout, Western Connecticut.

That doesn't mean that the other 170 couldn't all have stands on just one side, of course, but from my sample, there's at least some seating on both sides at most places.
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wally_wabash

1-sided stadiums...the NCAC loves 'em!  Wittenberg (as mentioned previously), Wooster, and Earlham all have 1-sided seating.  To be fair, the last time I went to Earlham they did have some terrible high-school choir style bleachers set up shoddily behind the visitors bench but they weren't high enough to see over the team so they were pretty pointless and for the purposes of this exercise won't be counted.  Earlham has since renovated and I think they got rid of the crappy visitor's stands.  In any case, Earlham isn't my problem anymore.  You guys are gonna love Richmond!   :)

I haven't been there yet, but from what I can tell Kenyon, Oberlin, and Hiram are all 1-sided.  That's 6 of our 10...er...5 of our 9 that are 1-sided. 

Also, CWRU and Chicago in the UAA are 1-siders.  Maybe it's a northern thing. 
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AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

BlueRebel94

Quote from: 70_dc_alum on November 13, 2009, 10:47:08 AM
Only 1 sided stadium i ever played in was against TMC at the high school.  must be a northern KY thing that you can never figure out how to put stands on both sides. 

Yeah its funny that DC's only success against TMC came at those one-sided stadiums (3 out of 6 games in KY) every 4 years.  We liked DCs stadium much better (6-0 in OH).
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BlueRebel94

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 13, 2009, 11:23:25 AM
1-sided stadiums...the NCAC loves 'em!  Wittenberg (as mentioned previously), Wooster, and Earlham all have 1-sided seating.  To be fair, the last time I went to Earlham they did have some terrible high-school choir style bleachers set up shoddily behind the visitors bench but they weren't high enough to see over the team so they were pretty pointless and for the purposes of this exercise won't be counted.  Earlham has since renovated and I think they got rid of the crappy visitor's stands.  In any case, Earlham isn't my problem anymore.  You guys are gonna love Richmond!   :)

I haven't been there yet, but from what I can tell Kenyon, Oberlin, and Hiram are all 1-sided.  That's 6 of our 10...er...5 of our 9 that are 1-sided. 

Also, CWRU and Chicago in the UAA are 1-siders.  Maybe it's a northern thing. 

Don't tell that to 70_dc_alum as KY is just alittle bit south of Defiance, OH.
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